Should SS/LB titles be account based?

Yes? No? Or maybe you like eggs...

Poll Edited by Celestial Beaver: Removed the pointless option on the poll, please refrain from creating polls with such options in future.

Imo, no. If you're enough of a failure to take the time to grind out some retarded titles, go do it some more. :P

It shouldn't be in the way that Lux/Kurz is. I think it'd be better if you gained SS/LB faction faster if you have characters on your account that are R9/R10.

SS is compulsory to grind in NF, LB is somewhat compulsory for the bad guys whose names I can remember.

/Signed.

It may be optional grind, except for the parts in NF, but don't forget you also need LB to join any DoA group.

And less grind is good in general. If people enjoy SS/LB runs they can still do them anyway.

/signed for anything that makes shortens grinding

No, they should not be account based. Maxing these two titles is easy enough as it is with the SS/LB farming run and the low requirement (50k) needed to max them.

It's so easy to max these both. 15 hours is nothing compared to the 8k some people have.

Go grind a little please. You'll get some nice drops and you can use some lockpicks.

/signed

grind = bad

Farming was never hard and niether was grinding. Why should you have to spent time too it on other characters if you want it when you've done it already?

Agree 100%

/signed for this reason

This. I would also advise anyone who think GW has a lot of grind to never try any of the games for asian-market.

I say no...they are both pretty easy to max and after you finish nf who cares??

People who have multiple characters and dont want to grind on each one care.

If these become account-based, then make ALL of the EotN grindfests account-based. But personally, it makes no sense whatsoever for a level 1 dervish to be dishing out ~100 armor-ignoring damage every 30 seconds from eternal aura when he did nothing to earn legendary spearmarshal.

Voted yes, the 150-200 hours of worm farming required to gain full access to skills/lb for all toons on an account is pointless makework that detracts from the game's appeal.

Most definately. Now granted it's not that hard to get the max rank with two quests active, but it still gets annoying. It would be nice to be able to go through the game and have max Lightbringer already on a new character before you go to Realm of Torment and fight all the Margonites. Who wants to grind that multiple times? No one that I know of.

No, this title is very easy to gain.

Even without the double SS/LB weekend

It's easy enough to get those titles high enough to be efficient for the underlying spells and effects. I have never felt the urge to max on characters besides my main.

My other 9 charecters?

/Signed

skill > time?

/ not signed...

unless they disconnect the favour from titles ...

yes they should be account based.

Yes it's easy, I've done it one 2 characters myself. (main and paragon since I allways use TNTF and didn't want to feel like I was gimping myself.)

no I won't do it on the other seven.

so my warrior will never be able to join a DoA PuG.

what a fantastic idea.. lets make one of the easiest titles in the game account based! cause that'll really make the game harder

/notsigned.. it takes like 6 hours to get , you can space that out over a week if you don't have enough time , or you could do that in an evening . but making that account based will make the game even easier than it already is.

While I'm all for making things account-based, there are titles like SS/LB/EotN rep which would better receive an improved way of maxing for other characters if you have already max rank of the title on one of your characters.

For example, my suggestion:

*The titles should begin as normal, tied to characters, starting from zero for new chars - even from storyline point of view a level 3 Sunspear Legend coming to report in Sunspear Sanctuary wouldn't make sense. So the improvements must have their effect later, there are 2:

*When you have a max rank of a rep title, you gain a bonus for all other characters that have level 20 AND get to certain rank of that title (6 for SS / 3 for LB/Asura/Norn/Vanguard/Deldrimor) - this bonus should greatly increase the rate of gained points for the qualifying character, for example x4.

*Whenever your character qualifying for the above bonus completes the last mission of Nightfall (for SS/LB) or EotN (for it's 4 rep titles) you automatically gain max rank of the titles.

Absolutely not, these titles are easy enough as it is. You'll probably be rank 7-8 SS by the time you get to the the mainland. And for those who want to rank up their LB title, there's a guide on wiki to ranking up fast.

Just wondering, why do people not sign it because they're "easy enough as it is"?

Grind was and is never hard. Although time is a valuable thing.

voted yes just for the reason of hating grind. You should make a thread like this for LDoA and Survivor as well that would get some interesting responses, or maybe ill make it a little later.

yes, they should be. the SS especially, is essential to gameplay - doing again, and again and again, is tiresome. make them the way the kurz/lux ones work.

and for all the folks worried about IMBA pve skills on chars that don't deserve them - tie them all into the primary attributes of the class they were intended for. solves that, doesn't it?

tto Reputatiuon Titles i must say no, these ones are toon based titles, they belong partwise to the story of the game and are kind of (yes grindy) achievement titles.

only because Chara A has good reputation at the Race X, doesn#t mean ,that Chara B will automatically have the same good reputation ...


The only thign that has to be changed with the stupid reputation titles is, that their PvE Only-Skils should not be bonded to them.

Players hsould receive an other way to increase the power of their PvE only-Skills, that has nothing to do with the Titles - most simple solution: QUESTS !!!

Implement for each Strength Level of the PvE Only Skills an Elite Quest. And each time when you complete such a Title specific Elite Quests, all your PvE Only-Skills of that Title of which you do the Elite Quest will become 1 grade stronger, as if you would have been raised on +1 on the titles rank.

This would mean, all reputation titles would receive 9 to 11 Elite Quests, this would be then 58 in total new Elite Quests.

Would be a nice little new content for another BMP like add on and it would give the Devs the possibility to give us players also with this Quests some nice rewards, that owuld help to reduce the overall grind factor of GW to a normal point.

Rewards like Elite Skill Tomes of the Profession with that you complete the Quests, rewards like Sweets,Alc and party Stuff, rewards like little amounts of lockpicks (not ever only 1 -.-, make it 5 or so, thats rewarding, 1 is a bad joke) and i really ask me, why anet hasn't yet come onto the idea to make also unidented perfect gold items as rewards for doing quests.


However, those reputation titles are easy done. Norn is absolutely most easily to farm, charr is also easy to farm, asura is quick done too, the only race rep, that takes a bit longer at the end is Dwarf, because it has no good farm point, other then the ice elemental dungeon...

However, the rest can be doen with books of NM + HM, just make some of the PQ's and trade the books in for easy 6k Points and repeat thta, till titles is maxed.

Sunspear is easily reached near to max, just by playing the game in NM, until you reach the point, were you have to play in HM to make further points.
Only Lightbrigner takles a bit longer, but with Junundu Wurm farm you can easily farm both titles in HM and while you are at it, ou get also surely lots of gold drops from killing the mosnters on the way.

Plus maxing sunspear/lightbrigner is completely optional, you don't need these titles on play to play through Nightfall, lightbringer makes it only a bit easier to fight the demons and the only place, where a certain lightbrigner rank could be of advantage, is having at least r4 when fighting against the Blasphemy in the Sebelkeh Mission, just to have a strogn enough lightbrigner gazy to kill of the dangerous blashemies's balls with 1 gaze nearly instantly, what makes it easier to concentrate onto the torment rifts and thus a bit easier to get the mission done with master grade, but thats all.

otherwise a high rank of lightbrigner is only needed to have a chance agaisnt margonites and the highly overpowered reproducing Demons in Hard Mode, in the case of not using ursan blessing.

And as mentioned, then there are alos such things, like the double rep WE's, you just need only to havethe luck to play onto a WE, that has double SS/LB points and you can easily max both titles within the WE....

Thos titles are a hybrid between grind and achievement, the achievement part is stronger, so the should stay toon based.

make it cookies and then yes...also eggs are good

and no not account based they are easy grind titles due to all the double weekends :

These two titles are by far these easiest to max so no need for them to be accoutn based. (though I don't have them maxed on my 1 PvE guy)

MY guess is the point of this thread/poll is so the OP, and others, can go Ursan with any character they wish in DoA.

/not signed for this idea

/signed for RedStar's avatar

though I firmly believe that sometime prior to OR right at the release of GW2 most all titles will be moved to account based.

So what if they are the easiest? I don't want to max it on my Ranger, Mesmer, Elementalist, Monk AND PARAGON. Because, you know, I won't be able to get into ANY group without at least r9 sunspear/r8 lightbringer.

/signed
I like less grind, for all my chars.

what you are talking about, could you say that in a more understandable way for non native English people ?

god and for what the **** stands ever this tl, dr for oO, can't see this stuff anymore >.<

The above is what I'd prefer. Not exactly account based, but it's a lot better than just leaving everyone to grind every character that they'd like at maximum effectiveness.

Breaking news- all grind titles are easy.



/signed all the way

no i don't think so. the main difference between the Lux/Kurz titles is the PvP aspect of them. the Lux/Kurz titles take much more time than the SS/LB titles.

it's an interesting question and i'm still kind of arguing with myself over it so i may come back and change my mind later.

2 minutes of googling - tl;dr is ,,Too long, don't read''. And I'm not native English speaker. Thanks for assuming that I am.

You are trying to justify something in a really, really... way.

For example:

High rank of Lightbringer is required in DoA and RoT unless you are a warrior/Ursan. Required = don't try without at least r4. Not to mention you MUST have r7/8 to join a pug. Regardless if you are Ursan, Monk or something from balanced teams.

PvP Aspect? Oh, you are one of those people that think about AB as of PvP.

What I'd like to see would be that they become account wide for each character after completing the main story line for nightfall.

OFC all titles should be account based. Grind should have no benifit in this game.