Would you like to be able to dedicate your end game greens in your HOM?
End game greens are only achievable by completing the whole campaign, which means that a player who completes all four games would have four weapons to add, but also if it is made account based, a player who completes every campaign on three characters would have 12 weapons to add.
Completing each game on multiple characters takes a lot of time and effort. The end game green is a significant reward for this, but furthermore, this also gives an extra reward to players who complete campaigns multiple times.
Buying the end game green, or item of another player might be seen as a problem to cheapen this idea though, but remember that buying one of another player means that they also lose the ability to add the weapon to their HOM.
What do you think? Is this a good idea, or do you not like it?
End game greens to count for HoM
bhavv
Hodgie
/not signed, no point tbh
also if you complete a campaign twice with 1 toon you dnt get another weapon.
also if you complete a campaign twice with 1 toon you dnt get another weapon.
Tyla
They're too easy to get and often carry bad mods. The only endgame items I would like to see in there is Deldrimor (gold) weapons and Zodiac weapons.
MithranArkanere
You can skin a whole lot of Prophecies missions before getting there.
If you start from Factions, you just need to make... around 16 of 25 missions to get there.
I'd rather make make the titan quests repeatable, for 8 players and harder, and allow to get Titan weapons by making them.
And add also a Shiro'ken set in Factions, and all set. One 'elite' set for each campaign.
If you start from Factions, you just need to make... around 16 of 25 missions to get there.
I'd rather make make the titan quests repeatable, for 8 players and harder, and allow to get Titan weapons by making them.
And add also a Shiro'ken set in Factions, and all set. One 'elite' set for each campaign.
bhavv
I have no interest in either tormented or destroyer weapons nor their cost.
The attributes dont really matter, just being able to fill the HOM with something else that I can get.
The attributes dont really matter, just being able to fill the HOM with something else that I can get.
Phoenix Tears
The only stuff I'd like to see there is Celestial and Zodiac Weapons ... as also the Contest Weapons, so that the nice Contest items are not wasted and can eventually be taken over to GW2.
romeus petrus
/notsigned.
I'm not even sure destroyer weapons deserve to be placed in HoM tbnh.
I'm not even sure destroyer weapons deserve to be placed in HoM tbnh.
KoleAurow 23
/Notsigned...
How much does a destroyer weapon cost including mats?
How much do Tormented weapons cost?
Now how much do end game weapons cost?
Just think about it...
How much does a destroyer weapon cost including mats?
How much do Tormented weapons cost?
Now how much do end game weapons cost?
Just think about it...
Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
You can skin a whole lot of Prophecies missions before getting there.
If you start from Factions, you just need to make... around 16 of 25 missions to get there. I'd rather make make the titan quests repeatable, for 8 players and harder, and allow to get Titan weapons by making them. And add also a Shiro'ken set in Factions, and all set. One 'elite' set for each campaign. |
Or just making gold Deldrimor weapons able to be put in the HoM instead of new Titan weapons (although I'd LOVE some Titan weapons if they act like the Titans themselves, that is, skin changes according to the area your in)
Shiro'ken weapons sounds very sweet, and then a core weapon set as well would be good, like an Obsidian set or Etheral set (so that no old weapons are reused).
All the sets would, of course, have to be crafted.
The reason why Greens, of any origin, should NOT be added to the HoM is:
1) They are free technically.
2) They are too easy to get.
3) End game greens are too easy to get as well(only HAVE to do 4 missions in Tyria, 9 in Factions, 14 in Nightfall, and 11 in Eye of the North; so just doing 38 missions gets you three weapons for free for the HoM? Pass).
4) If any Greens were to be added, they would have to be Elite Area Greens or End Game Greens. HOWEVER, in addition, it would have to be made so that they are auto-customized to remove trading them (to give them some downside since they are free).
5) Beating the games gets you 4 weapons no matter what, it would cheapen the HoM too much with the account-based update being made.
Twonaiver
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
You can skin a whole lot of Prophecies missions before getting there.
If you start from Factions, you just need to make... around 16 of 25 missions to get there. I'd rather make make the titan quests repeatable, for 8 players and harder, and allow to get Titan weapons by making them. And add also a Shiro'ken set in Factions, and all set. One 'elite' set for each campaign. |
Shadowhaze
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Originally Posted by bhavv
I have no interest in either tormented or destroyer weapons nor their cost.
The attributes dont really matter, just being able to fill the HOM with something else that I can get. |
It would be nice if you could just put some of your favorite weapons in there no matter what they were. (How that would be implemented I have no idea and it probably wouldn't work, but I still like the idea.)
Azza
i like alot of the idea's i heard, 1 that stood out to me, is an elite set for each campaign like
Tyria-Titan weapons(as mentioned above)
Factions-Shiro'ken weapons or Luxon/Kurzick Weapons
NightFall-(Talach ninneed said Torment weapons will be able to be added)
Eye Of The North-Destroyer Weapons(obviously already that)
Bonus Mission Pack-The weapons u Trade in for with the books
so then every elite weapon plays a roll in the game of it origin that can be monumentalised
Tyria-Titan weapons(as mentioned above)
Factions-Shiro'ken weapons or Luxon/Kurzick Weapons
NightFall-(Talach ninneed said Torment weapons will be able to be added)
Eye Of The North-Destroyer Weapons(obviously already that)
Bonus Mission Pack-The weapons u Trade in for with the books
so then every elite weapon plays a roll in the game of it origin that can be monumentalised
N1ghtstalker
i'll have my weapon stand filled for 50k LMAO
/notsigned imo
those are cheap and easy to get weapons
/notsigned imo
those are cheap and easy to get weapons
Solas
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Originally Posted by bhavv
Buying the end game green, or item of another player might be seen as a problem to cheapen this idea though, but remember that buying one of another player means that they also lose the ability to add the weapon to their HOM. What do you think? Is this a good idea, or do you not like it? |
Also Tormented items will be allowed in HoM thats enough.
Dr.Jones
i dont understand why people feel that monument needs to based in money. i for one think that we already have enough money monuments ie "Devotion" and "Resilience" i think that this monument should allow all greens because that's mostly what people play with. along with bmp, or a middle of the line solution for bmp weps and rares would be to give them monuments like if you wanted to show off the undead weps you got it would just be one statue that would have them all layed out.
Don Doggy
/signed
Most casual players have greens and not tormented or destroyer weapons. Why shouldn't they be allowed to add their greens to their HoM?
Most casual players have greens and not tormented or destroyer weapons. Why shouldn't they be allowed to add their greens to their HoM?
Yawgmoth
Very poor suggestion. Endgame greens are one of the *worst* choices for HoM weapons. Extremelly common and dirt cheap, wtf?
I'd much rather see oldschool rares accepted there than common junk.
/not signed
I'd much rather see oldschool rares accepted there than common junk.
/not signed
Dark Paladin X
maybe, i rather have putting BMP weapons in the HoM or creating new kind of weapon sets like Lux/Kurz weapons, Sunspear weapons, Lightbringer weapons, Canthan Weapons. But end game greens is a possibility.
Sleeper Service
not just endgame. all greens.
Ama Seraphim
to be honest i don't care for the destroyer or tormented weapons.. and am not putting any of them in my HoM..
End Game greens.. lol.. nty.. as others have mentioned the stats suck on those...
But perfect golds.. now that i would like to see
End Game greens.. lol.. nty.. as others have mentioned the stats suck on those...
But perfect golds.. now that i would like to see
Dr.Jones
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
i'll have my weapon stand filled for 50k LMAO
/notsigned imo those are cheap and easy to get weapons |
кιωι
Deldrimor weapons should, add a gold inscribable option at the end of factions, and move d-weps from slavers to end of eotn and we have a winner.
KoleAurow 23
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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones
i think that this monument should allow all greens because that's mostly what people play with.
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I would rather spend a lot of gold on a skin and mods then a little gold on a pointless end game green I NEVER use.
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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones
will some one plz explain why this monument needs to be one that you have to spend 50k+ to fill up?
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50k isnt really that much if ya do like 2 hrs of [Chaos Plane farming] < [lame I know.] lol
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
You can skin a whole lot of Prophecies missions before getting there.
If you start from Factions, you just need to make... around 16 of 25 missions to get there. I'd rather make make the titan quests repeatable, for 8 players and harder, and allow to get Titan weapons by making them. And add also a Shiro'ken set in Factions, and all set. One 'elite' set for each campaign. |
pamelf
/signed. I hate both tormented and destroyer weapons and would never waste money on them... Add something that the casual gamer can put in.
bhavv
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Originally Posted by KoleAurow 23
Because, the HoM is there to display GREAT things, not your "Starter Bow" lol...
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And green weapons dont in anyway compare to starter weps.
I was initially going to suggest that end game weapons should also be customised, but then you would never be able to get yourself a matching pair for both hands so that wouldnt work.
Maybe if they could be used on your account only, but not tradeable it would be fine.
Look at how many armor sets there are available to add to HoM, and compared to this there are only two addable weapon types that a lot of people dont even like. I find it stupid that people think that everyone else should pay excessive money just for items for the HoM when they dont like them at all.
I find both weapon types too ugly for the cost.
credit
I still don't understand why only Destroyer, and soon-to-be Tormented, are the only weapons worthy enough to be in my HoM.
/Signed for more weapons for HoM.
Having more craftable weapons like the Deldrimor weapons would be cool.
/Signed for more weapons for HoM.
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And I also like the Idea of having craftable end game weapons in factions too that can be added.
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bhavv
Yes, why cant we add deldrimor weapons as well?
I like the deldrimor weapons and am going to get a spear and a shield.
And I also like the Idea of having craftable end game weapons in factions too that can be added.
Maybe make either Zodiac or Celestial craftable end game weapons for factions?
I like the deldrimor weapons and am going to get a spear and a shield.
And I also like the Idea of having craftable end game weapons in factions too that can be added.
Maybe make either Zodiac or Celestial craftable end game weapons for factions?
Dr.Jones
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Originally Posted by KoleAurow 23
Because, the HoM is there to display GREAT things, not your "Starter Bow" lol...
50k isnt really that much if ya do like 2 hrs of [Chaos Plane farming] < [lame I know.] lol Sorry, I didnt know how to put 2 quotes into 1 mesage |
Fuzzie
/signed woot! a cheaper way to fill that lonely section in my Hall of Monuments 
Lady Raenef
Personally, I consider green weapons to be useless, in my opinion. You can't change the color, change the mods, and almost everything out there for melee weapons are 20/20, 15^50, +30. Can we have variety?
I'm okay with Destroyer/Tormented weapons only.
I'm okay with Destroyer/Tormented weapons only.
Azza
Tyria-Titan weapons(as mentioned above)
Factions-Shiro'ken weapons or Luxon/Kurzick Weapons
NightFall-(Talach ninneed said Torment weapons will be able to be added)
Eye Of The North-Destroyer Weapons(obviously already that)
Bonus Mission Pack-The weapons u Trade in for with the books
so then every elite weapon plays a roll in the game of it origin that can be monumentalised
^^^That Idea i Like^^^
Factions-Shiro'ken weapons or Luxon/Kurzick Weapons
NightFall-(Talach ninneed said Torment weapons will be able to be added)
Eye Of The North-Destroyer Weapons(obviously already that)
Bonus Mission Pack-The weapons u Trade in for with the books
so then every elite weapon plays a roll in the game of it origin that can be monumentalised
^^^That Idea i Like^^^
MithranArkanere
They are way easier to acquire than Torment and Destroyer weapons.
So no.
So no.
nekopowa
Personally,
/notsigned
They are too easily obtainable and nearly unwanted.
/notsigned
They are too easily obtainable and nearly unwanted.
Sigma Onkoron
/notsigned
If you really want things in your HoM then buy destoryer / tormented.
Greens are to easy to come by. And are really worthless, when a new one comes out its overfarmed and then worth nothing.
If you really want things in your HoM then buy destoryer / tormented.
Greens are to easy to come by. And are really worthless, when a new one comes out its overfarmed and then worth nothing.
isamu kurosawa
Why bother?
You get a statue in your HoM for completing a campaign. Why bother having weapons you get from simply completing a campaign added? Its pointless to have 2 monuments for the same achievement.
If they add more weapons to HoM i would prefer them to be elite mission rewards that use X items dropped in the elite areas just like tormented and destroyer. Maybe add a drop extra to uw/fow or SF for proph and urgoz/deep for factions that can be traded for new weapons.
Keep in mind the HoMs primary purpose it to translate rewards over to gw2. For that reason rewarding a character twice for campaign completion is pointless.
The only real cost is the 10k crafting for destroyer weapons. onyx, diamonds and torment gemstones all drop in their respective areas. Play the game and they are free.
You get a statue in your HoM for completing a campaign. Why bother having weapons you get from simply completing a campaign added? Its pointless to have 2 monuments for the same achievement.
If they add more weapons to HoM i would prefer them to be elite mission rewards that use X items dropped in the elite areas just like tormented and destroyer. Maybe add a drop extra to uw/fow or SF for proph and urgoz/deep for factions that can be traded for new weapons.
Keep in mind the HoMs primary purpose it to translate rewards over to gw2. For that reason rewarding a character twice for campaign completion is pointless.
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will some one plz explain why this monument needs to be one that you have to spend 50k+ to fill up?
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Gill Halendt
We still don't know what we'll get in GW2 for filling up this monument.
If they limited it to Destroyer Weapons at first, I guess there must be a reason. So HoM is not just a trophy room and the Monument of Valor is not just a show of precious items, I guess there must be also some sort of significance behind it.
If they limited it to Destroyer Weapons at first, I guess there must be a reason. So HoM is not just a trophy room and the Monument of Valor is not just a show of precious items, I guess there must be also some sort of significance behind it.
Zahr Dalsk
/signed for lore reasons.
Lady Syve
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Originally Posted by Gill Halendt
If they limited it to Destroyer Weapons at first, I guess there must be a reason. So HoM is not just a trophy room and the Monument of Valor is not just a show of precious items, I guess there must be also some sort of significance behind it.
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But of course, there has been a lot of QQing about the lack of choice, so Anet has now decided to let you put Tormented weapons in the HoM. I really doubt that they had (or even have at this moment) a solid plan for all the rewards from the HoM.
But back on topic, I think that green weapons aren't special enough to be included. As someone already mentioned, we are already rewarded for completing a campaign, so end-game greens would be like a really really cheap reward for the same thing. As for the comment about the number and varaity of armors that you can put in the HoM, please remember that each and every one of them is Elite armor that costs more than 10k per piece to make (including the price of materials). This is a suitably difficult accomplishment in my opinion and is worthy of recognition, but buying a key, necklace, or other trinket for 5k and then getting run through the last mission is not. It's simply too easy. It'd be like allowing 1k max armor to be put in.
In the end, the achievements in the Hall of Monuments are supposed to be special, so
/not signed
cosyfiep
no, for one thing you can only really get ONE for each character that finishes the game....
and two...the stats on those are preeeettty bad....some of the collectors blues are better!
and two...the stats on those are preeeettty bad....some of the collectors blues are better!