Change Snowball Arena to be Like TA
shadowmage61
It seems to me that there are 2 types of people who play this game; the ones who actually want gamer points and know how to play, and the other 80% of people who just want to kill shit/get balth faction who tend to screw up the game for everybody else. While I enjoy the fact that ANet has made us a mini-game that is fairly enjoyable when you have a decent team, it seems impossible to actually have fun if you're always thrown into a random group with people who invariably spend the game spamming snowballs and ignoring the presents. So in the interest of keeping this game fun (and simultaneously allowing those who really want gamer points a better chance of getting them), I believe that you should actually be able to choose your 4 man team in the arena like in TA. People who still want to kill shit can form random PUGs in 2 seconds and get their rep while those who want the gamer points can make their teams, get on vent, etc... Plus people wouldn't have to whine about syncing anymore. Anybody else feel the same way about this?
Xx Da Best Xx
I myself am good at snowball and hate getting stuck with a noob team and I think it would be kind of cool, but if it was like that, it would be a place for leet people, and all the noobs wouldn't have "fun".This would also bring CC farmers, and it would just become HA...Snowball isnt around that long anyway, so Id just pass on this.
shadowmage61
Eh, well if these noobs just want to kill stuff/get balth faction then they don't have to win to have the kind of "fun" then want 
nivl4c
hah its not designed to be any spectacularly outstanding opportunity for gamer points...they aren't designing these for your titles and ranks they are simply adding a little variation to the normal GW life, just something different, if ur so focused on ur points and titles, ur a tool but thats ok we all got our own thing...not worth making a big deal out of it at all like has been already said its only around for a short time,,,zomg noob team...haha sorry sorry
Pure Disasta
Regardless of gamer points I dont want to play with scrubs, sorry I'm a 1337 king and I deserve to play with people who can read and comprehend the start message.
HawkofStorms
I disagree. While it bites that you have to go through several noob teams, once you get a good team with another 3 (or 2, you can generally pull some dead weight), good players, you start to steamroll teams. In snowball arena, I either lose (on a bad team), win one game (both teams are bad and I win a couple by luck), or win 15+ in a row (win until we face another good team).
If you created a TA-like area, it would actually be MORE difficult to get gamer points since you'd be unable to beat up on all those scrub teams. Only way to make it fair would be to award like... double gamer points for wins in the TA version, of course that would make the RA version nearly dead and eliminate the point (as all the "noob" players would still come to TA).
Basically, all this suggestion will do is slow down how long it takes to start a match for you'll have to find a team. Oh, and allow you to play with guildies, which would be fun.
If you created a TA-like area, it would actually be MORE difficult to get gamer points since you'd be unable to beat up on all those scrub teams. Only way to make it fair would be to award like... double gamer points for wins in the TA version, of course that would make the RA version nearly dead and eliminate the point (as all the "noob" players would still come to TA).
Basically, all this suggestion will do is slow down how long it takes to start a match for you'll have to find a team. Oh, and allow you to play with guildies, which would be fun.
Rhamia Darigaz
or stop worrying about your gamer points and have fun :O
it's a snowball fight. minigame. in a videogame. not exactly srs bsnss
it's a snowball fight. minigame. in a videogame. not exactly srs bsnss
-Lotus-
the balth faction is a much better reward than 3 CC shards and any points.
Reptile
/notsigned
I think it's meant to be a fun, jump in any time kinda thing...
Yep.. you get bad teams.. but then again you can get great teams... and then you get great runs till you come up against another great team, but the have the power to make snowmen fall on your head.. and they win...
Anyhow, you get 10.. yep TEN gamer points per win... = just fine
I guess you could argue for two arenas.. the current 'RA' style and a 'TA' style.. but.. Meh.. grab some cheese, finish your whine and get back to having fun.. remember.. if you have a good chance of being teamed with 'noobs'.. so do your opponents..
I think it's meant to be a fun, jump in any time kinda thing...
Yep.. you get bad teams.. but then again you can get great teams... and then you get great runs till you come up against another great team, but the have the power to make snowmen fall on your head.. and they win...
Anyhow, you get 10.. yep TEN gamer points per win... = just fine
I guess you could argue for two arenas.. the current 'RA' style and a 'TA' style.. but.. Meh.. grab some cheese, finish your whine and get back to having fun.. remember.. if you have a good chance of being teamed with 'noobs'.. so do your opponents..
anonymous
/signed
This is why I hate snowball and dragon arena. People say play for fun, but losing because of a bunch of retards don't understand killing doesn't get you anything and you have to run the presents isn't fun. Let people make premade teams and let people that just want to go in also have a random button.
This is why I hate snowball and dragon arena. People say play for fun, but losing because of a bunch of retards don't understand killing doesn't get you anything and you have to run the presents isn't fun. Let people make premade teams and let people that just want to go in also have a random button.
nix1016
snowball arena is too unbalanced to have a TA version
Shayne Hawke
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snowball arena is too unbalanced to have a TA version
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@OP: If you want a selected 4-man team, contact me this winter about syncing with the proz. Of course, we'll all be expecting to see you pull some good moves in Costume Brawling any any other games that show up in the time between now and then, mainly in Dragon Arena.
Otherwise, you're on your own. The only thing I'd want Snowball to be more like TA/RA is that people are grouped together by the district they leave from, although with the way we do it, that really would make our syncing absolutely imba for the arena.
On a slightly less-related matter, I'll probably consider bumping my almost year-old thread on giving max faction raises to people with Gamer ranks.
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by shadowmage61
it seems impossible to actually have fun if you're always thrown into a random group with people who invariably spend the game spamming snowballs and ignoring the presents.
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It's not that big of a deal, it's not like it takes skill or anything. Yeah, it's easily the worst Festival "PvP" Arena, I'd rather Dragon Arena or Costume Brawl any day of the week and twice on Sunday, but still, it doesn't really matter.
Shayne Hawke
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SNOWBALL ARENA IS SUCH SRS BSNS!!!!!
It's not that big of a deal, it's not like it takes skill or anything. Yeah, it's easily the worst Festival "PvP" Arena |
Tender Wolf
Ugh I know the feeling. In snowball arena and RA, I swear I always get stuck with the noob team that doesn't get the focus of the game. How hard is it to listen and go after the presents, protecting the teammates that are carrying them? And don't get me started on RA. You could be pinging the monk until your keyboard blows up and they still won't go after it. Now RA I understand is supposed to be random but I see no reason why you can't form an actual team in snowball arenas. Even alliance battles aren't random and how many people actually stay with their groups? So I see no problem with this.
Kanyatta
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I've never understood why nobody I speak with likes it. I can't even understand why they like Dragon Arena more.
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Konig Des Todes
I don't see much point in doing this, as it is hardly around. I will sign for this idea: Make a second "snowball arena" and a second "Dragon arena." One will be set up like RA, how it is now, and the other will be like TA.
With that, I can't think about any arguments against, even the "better things to do" and "working on GW2" is thrown about by: 1. There are now split teams for GW1 and GW2 and 2. There is plenty of time to get to work on making a new NPC (or option) to take to a different area that could look the exact same, and add in a few new servers for new games, along with changing the team panel in the area.
With that, I can't think about any arguments against, even the "better things to do" and "working on GW2" is thrown about by: 1. There are now split teams for GW1 and GW2 and 2. There is plenty of time to get to work on making a new NPC (or option) to take to a different area that could look the exact same, and add in a few new servers for new games, along with changing the team panel in the area.
Makkert
it's a festival game.
it's not meant to have organised teams therefor.
yes, it can be annoying to have terrible teams. if you win, leave and re- enter.
if you lose, same.
after a few times, you get a team with half a brain.
or synch enter, and you have your semi-organised team.
it's not meant to have organised teams therefor.
yes, it can be annoying to have terrible teams. if you win, leave and re- enter.
if you lose, same.
after a few times, you get a team with half a brain.
or synch enter, and you have your semi-organised team.
Kook~NBK~
/not signed
Most people who enter the snowball arena fall into one of 2 catergories: Players who want to win and know what they're doing or players who want to win but haven't quite figured out how to win yet. But, IMHO, if you're not playing to have FUN, regardless of the kind of people you're partied with, you need to check your priorities.
Most people who enter the snowball arena fall into one of 2 catergories: Players who want to win and know what they're doing or players who want to win but haven't quite figured out how to win yet. But, IMHO, if you're not playing to have FUN, regardless of the kind of people you're partied with, you need to check your priorities.
Bowstring Badass
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it's a festival game.
it's not meant to have organised teams therefor. yes, it can be annoying to have terrible teams. if you win, leave and re- enter. if you lose, same. after a few times, you get a team with half a brain. or synch enter, and you have your semi-organised team. |
But honestly why? Syncing in isn't hard and as already stated its a festival game no point in balancing it. It is only here and then gone for a short time.
Also dragon arena is so much better.
I can just kill people and not get yelled at because whoevers team kills the most wins.
nix1016
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
Joking, right?
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Everyone knows that Dwayna's side has the advantage with avalanche... which doesn't matter as much when your teams are random and people can blame the noobs on their team but if you make a TA version of it then things get competitive and there will be alot more complaints regarding the unbalance of the game... which I doubt will get fixed since it's been that way for 3 years and every year people have complained and every year anet doesn't listen.
People don't like snowball arena for the reasons the OP mentioned... i.e. serious players getting frustrated of getting into teams with 'noobs' and casual gamers going in for a few kills getting called 'noobs' for not running the present
Lykan
Snow arena is fine, any actual organising would imbalance it to hell. Its already biased to the grenths anyway.
The Arching Healer
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Sarcasm right?
Everyone knows that Dwayna's side has the advantage with avalanche |
btw
SNOWBALL ARENA IS SRS BSNS
Mr. Undisclosed
Fcuk fun, I'm in it for the gamer points. Since these games are worth the most I'd prefer better teams. Tbh you should have foreseen all the "srs bsns" responses because it makes them think they're kewl.
You're baed, please /uninstall because I don't want you in my guildwars.
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RiKio
And then add a Gamer Emote.
jiggles
korean dis1, when the huge group starts moving hit enter and pray. if your quick enough (theres about a second between them moving and then going into a game. Your guaranteed gamer points.
But yeah id love a TA style system for both here and for DA. All you people saying its only a game dont understand gamer points are srs business.
But yeah id love a TA style system for both here and for DA. All you people saying its only a game dont understand gamer points are srs business.
Skitsefrenik
We should get christmas like emotes. r15 can be santa clause >.>. r3 can be the red nose thing
Jetdoc
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Fcuk fun, I'm in it for the gamer points.
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nix1016
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Originally Posted by The Arching Healer
Yellow Snow removes 1 condition ^^
btw SNOWBALL ARENA IS SRS BSNS |
Snowball arena is a game, and as with all games you have fun in it... and how do you have fun when you're getting frustrated by the noobs you have in your team or getting called a noob by your team? Though I still don't think a TA version is a good idea until they balance it out...
Tearz1993
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Originally Posted by Jetdoc
If you are doing something that you don't consider to be fun, you may want to rethink why you are playing this game.
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Shayne Hawke
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Originally Posted by nix1016
... and how do you have fun when you're getting frustrated by the noobs you have in your team or getting called a noob by your team? Though I still don't think a TA version is a good idea until they balance it out...
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As far as the balance issue, you're absolutely right on how Avalanche > Yellow Snow. However, a team's skill or gift placement can sometimes be more of a determining factor than your faction. The only kind of change I could think of for Avalanche is to change it from a Cripple to a KD.
nix1016
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
The only kind of change I could think of for Avalanche is to change it from a Cripple to a KD.
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"remove 1 condition. for the next 10 seconds you cannot be crippled"
Mr. Undisclosed
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jiggles
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"remove 1 condition. for the next 10 seconds you cannot be crippled"
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Alicendre
Ummm...
We ARE talking about an event arena here, right?
We ARE talking about an event arena here, right?
Alicendre
Ummm...
We ARE talking about an event arena here, right?
We ARE talking about an event arena here, right?
Shayne Hawke
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Ummm...
We ARE talking about an event arena here, right? |
shoogi
This has been asked for since the first wintersday.
Doesn't show any signs of happening though.
Doesn't show any signs of happening though.
N1ghtstalker
we're talking about a fungame and not serious pvp
keep the fun in it
/notsigned
keep the fun in it
/notsigned
jiggles
thats just it, there is no fun in being constantly crippled/dazed/stupid hex interupting you/constantly knocked down. I wouldnt mind daze/stupid hex/KD as much. It's a imba game, anet usually tend to nerf imba things...