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Snograt

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22 Jul 2008 at 14:34 - 41

I would say don't download from .dll sites. There are literally hundreds out there and you really don't know what you're getting. Unless one of us can remember a reputable site that downloads kosher files that are the right versions for you, forget it.

I can happily send you the two .dll files. Ddraw.dll is the prime candidate for your problems, but I will give you both (I'm glad I never deleted Windows.old when I upgraded to Vista!). You will need to PM me your email address, as you have it disabled in your preferences.

If anyone else is available to send it quicker, it would be nice - I've just got to work and won't be able to send anything for another 8 hours from now. I would send you copies from this machine but, being NT4, it wouldn't dop you any favours at all

samba

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W/Mo

22 Jul 2008 at 15:15 - 42

Okay. Well, someone could upload the files zipped to www.rapidshare.com and link it here. I'll PM you Snograt if I dont get the files, thanks.

samba

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W/Mo

22 Jul 2008 at 15:47 - 43

My friend gave me the files, but I have come up with ANOTHER problem (lol). I cant replace or delete the old files. It says some stupid error in both cases, when I try to replace or delete. :E

Snograt

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22 Jul 2008 at 15:51 - 44

What error? Need to know exactly what it says.

Your computer hates you, by the way.

Alexandra-Sweet

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22 Jul 2008 at 15:55 - 45

Quote:

Originally Posted by samba93

My friend gave me the files, but I have come up with ANOTHER problem (lol). I cant replace or delete the old files. It says some stupid error in both cases, when I try to replace or delete. :E

Are you logged on as Administrator?

And what error do you get?

samba

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W/Mo

22 Jul 2008 at 16:12 - 46

Agreed, my computer really hates me XD.

Well, I got the files replaced by using one tool. Dxdiag not complaining about old files again. So, I opened gw, and quickly switched to windows mode. Everything was working just fine, after letting it load for a while, so I opened it and guess what, it froze again.

This is really starting to get annoying..

Kattar

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22 Jul 2008 at 16:18 - 47

Ok, so...I'm out.

Unless it's a hardware issue, I've got nothing really.

Snograt

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22 Jul 2008 at 16:21 - 48

It's a start.

Now you've managed to get to the stage where you can at least start GW in windowed mode, do as suggested previously; set the affinity to one core.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet

Run Guild Wars
Then go to Task Manager

Hit CTRL + Alt + Del

OR

Right click the Task Bar and click "Task Manager"

Once you've opened the Task Manager go to the tab "Processes"

From that tab search for Gw.exe

Right click on Gw.exe and click Set Affinity, then make sure only one box is
checked (doesn't matter which one)

Hit the Ok button and see if Guild Wars freezes again.

If this works, we'll move on to making this fix permanent with the help of ForceCore. If not, we start again ><

samba

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W/Mo

22 Jul 2008 at 16:26 - 49

Done that, didin't help.

E: I think I said some things wrong. I didin't get it working on windows mode, I'm meaning just... That I got to the state where windows is open, and GW is down there in my taskbar... But when I clicked it and it opened it freezes.

Im sorry for my bad english lol..

Alexandra-Sweet

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22 Jul 2008 at 17:19 - 50

So you managed to get the 2 .dll files replaced? After that Guild Wars still froze?

Back to trouble shooting then.

Remember when I told you about the -diag thing?

Create a shortcut but this time put -dx8 -noshaders -nosound

Example:

"..\Guild Wars\Gw.exe"

Changes to

"..\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -dx8 -noshaders -nosound

Snograt

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22 Jul 2008 at 17:21 - 51

Also (clutching at straws here) are you running the latest (175.19) nVidia drivers?

samba

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W/Mo

22 Jul 2008 at 17:29 - 52

@Alexa: Done that already, didint help. Yes, I got the 2 .dll files replaced, and still freezing lol...

@Snograt: Yes, I have downloaded the latest drivers to nVidia.

Alexandra-Sweet

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22 Jul 2008 at 17:38 - 53

Do any other games work on your computer?
If not I would say your video card is broken.

zamial

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22 Jul 2008 at 17:38 - 54

Money on bunk drivers. try the 169 series drivers or boot into safe mode, rip all the nivida drivers out. use driver sweeper (free program, google it.) then restart the comp. goto microsoft update and let windows get a WHQL signed driver, or install the 169 from nvidias site. For the later, you will need to down load it 1st.

"If the hardware works, do not update the drivers."
-me

Snograt

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22 Jul 2008 at 17:44 - 55

This is Driver Sweeper - http://phyxion.net/docman/cat_view/6.html

samba

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22 Jul 2008 at 19:00 - 56

LOL... The troubles are following me everywhere I go...

So, I went to Safe mode and used driver sweeper+hijackthis to remove all nVdia driver things.
Then I booted to normal mode, and the computer was SOOO slow. When I opened a webpage, and tried to roll it down, it was like... RRMG..
I went to nVidia site and downloaded 169 drivers.... The setup complained about some compatibility problems, I continued and booted, the drivers didin't work, everything was still laggy. So, I have now the original drivers which I just downloaded again (175 nVidia). :E

samba

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W/Mo

23 Jul 2008 at 10:37 - 57

I have just come to realize that my whole comp doens't freeze, just the gw I think. I cant get away from GW state for some reason... The login picture just freezezs there.

zamial

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23 Jul 2008 at 15:58 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by samba93

Hiya.

So, I bought a new computer, builded it myself from the parts i ordered.

Comp was workin fine, untill I got Gw on it from my old computer. Didn't install it from a CD.

Started playin, played a while and my computer froze, everything just sopped and I had to boot from the reset button. This has happened about 10 times already,always then GW is on, once the comp froze about 5 seconds after I opened GW.

Here's some information bout my comp:
club3d 8500gt 512MB DDR2
AMD 5000+ X2 64
2gb ram
Avira Antivirus Personal Free
Comodo Pro Firewall

So, do any of you have a clue what's going on?

Btw, i have checked the temperatures of my graphics controller etc, they are just fine, also I have checked all the wires inside the computer.

Thanks.

Ok, I have bolded the key issues here.

1) We have a dirty install not from the cd. What is the size of the GW.DAT file? If it is over 4GB it is corrupted. delete the .dat file and redownload the game with the -image switch.

2) These cards get hot under load. I did some reading and they get REALLY hot. If the air flow in this case is not up to par this card needs to be RMA fast. This is the most likly senerio as "Started playin, played a while and my computer froze, everything just sopped and I had to boot from the reset button." Card sounds cooked. You claim that you checked the temps. How and with what? Your card gets smokin hot when used with 3D apps. so if you checked the temps at idle or without the use of a 3D app, your temps are NOT good. I suggest you download 3Dmark06 and everest, both are free. open up everest and pull up the sensor info for your GPU and the CPU. While that is running, launch 3dmark06. It will load up a few "cool" mini movies for you to watch. Inbetween the "mini movies" it will load your desktop for a short time, just long enough for you to see your temps. I also do not know what you consider "good temps". To me good temps are UNDER 58c UNDER full load. You need to also see the cpu temps, same rule. Post temps from above scenerio. What are you using to cool the cpu? stock fan? aftermarket? did you use arctic silver 5 thermal compound? AMD proccessors run hot as well.

3) What kind of ram is in this setup? we know it is ddr2 but is it 184 or 240 pin, manufacture and speed? Have you tinkered in the bios? did you run memtest on it? also free.

4) I am unfamilier with the antivirus. Also, why are you using an additional firewall? Windows firewall does its job just fine there is no need to have an aftermarket or additional firewall installed, that I know of.

5) How many and what size fans does the case have? what configuration are they in push/pull? do you use a hard drive, cd/dvd with ide ribbon cables? Are there a mess of wires screwing with airflow?

6) what is the size, make and model of the power supply?

FYI - I do alot of overclocking, computer tweaking, building. This sounds like a heat issue from the cpu/vid card, when a 3D app is launched. I do appologize if you have done all this already. I am just trying to help get you up and running.

samba

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23 Jul 2008 at 16:27 - 59

Okay, I have some answers.

1) Yes, it was something like 3GB, unistalled it and installed new .dat file, it just brought more trouble.

2) I have checked my temperatures with a program called HWMonitor. Also with everst. Also from BIOS.
core #0 is something like 20-35C also when i play
core #1 20-35C also when I play
graphics controller is something like 40-60C, usually bout 50C. Yes, I have good coolers, this problem has NOTHING to do with temps. :S
I dont see why my computer doesn't crash when I play some games just like GW, like Neverwinter NIghts 2. It has good graphics, right? Im running it with high graphs.
Im currently downloading 3dmark06 and I'll try to do that thing you mentioned..

3) I have no idea about the pins.
BUFFALO RETAIL 1GB DDRII 800MHz
I tried to memtest, but couldn't get CD to boot first... :E

4) Windows firewall=shit. Believe me, I know this. :P

5) Eh. Im not quite sure. THere are five fans I guess. No idea bout the sizes. :E That I can say, no mess with the wires. All wires checked.

6) ANTEC NSK4480 ATX MINI TOWER CASE 380W. The power supply is from Antec.

BTW, I have found out that only the game freezez, not my whole computer, I have managed to get GW to idle in taskbar, but when I open the game, it freezez and I cant get away from that state. Just reset button helps.

zamial

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23 Jul 2008 at 16:56 - 60

Have you tried force core, to set gw to run in 1 processer instead of 2?

samba

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W/Mo

23 Jul 2008 at 17:02 - 61

No, I havn't. How do you do that? (unless set affinity has something to do with that)

zamial

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23 Jul 2008 at 17:04 - 62

yes set affinity is the same thing did you try and run gw that way?

samba

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W/Mo

23 Jul 2008 at 17:07 - 63

Yeah did, didin't help...

zamial

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23 Jul 2008 at 17:13 - 64

Your antivirus and firewall are set to allow guidwars in/out freely? You have the correct ports open?

When you redownloaded the .dat file did you run the -image switch?

Have you gotten the updates from M$ up to date?

samba

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W/Mo

23 Jul 2008 at 17:32 - 65

1) Correct ports open? No idea.

2) No, I didin't.

3) Yeah. I have unistalled sp3 because of my own reasons (gw didn't work with sp3 either).

Okay, so I rad 3dmark06 and checked the temps:
core #0 37C (at highest point)
core #1 42C (at highest point)
graphics 54C (at highest point)
HDD 29C

zamial

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23 Jul 2008 at 18:19 - 66

temps look good.

1. If you are using a firewall, make sure GW.EXE and GWSETUP.EXE is added to your firewall's exception list. If you are unsure of how to do this, please check the website of your firewall provider for instructions. If you have already allowed your firewall to run Guild Wars in the past, please double check the exceptions. There is a possibility that Guild Wars may have been added to the block list after the client was patched.

2. If you are using a router, make sure both TCP port 6112 and TCP port 80 are opened within their settings. Updating your router's firmware to the latest version available on the manufacturer's website may also help.

make sure you do those things and open those ports on the firewall as well.

samba

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W/Mo

23 Jul 2008 at 18:49 - 67

Okay, I added GW.exe to the trusted ones (idk if it was there already).

Im having troubles with the second thing... I have absolutely no idea how to do that. I have zyXEl 600 prestige series 'modem'. Im not quite sure (lol) if it's a modem or router or what... I'm such a newbie at these things.

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23 Jul 2008 at 18:51 - 68

It really needs to be done in your firewalls. ON the router only if you have 1, that you can control the ports on.

Also if you right click the GW icon> properties in the line that ia after target add in a [space] then -image. EXAMPLE: "c:/programfiles/guildwars/GW.DAT" -image

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W/Mo

23 Jul 2008 at 19:16 - 69

Okay, I'm trying to get the port opened with some help of good old google.

I'm just curious... What will -image do?

zamial

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23 Jul 2008 at 19:24 - 70

It calls up a-nets server and downloads all the patchs at 1 time. Since you did not run this at reinstall the game may have been trying to download a ton of files and you just thought it was frozen or this could be causing a freeze.

samba

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W/Mo

23 Jul 2008 at 19:36 - 71

Okay now I have a litlle problem (suprise suprise...).

So I got that far... Now I dont know the password LOL...
I tried to search the modem manual, couldn't find it because it's kinda old...

So, any suggestions?

Snograt

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23 Jul 2008 at 19:42 - 72

Oh god...

Try "password" and "admin"

If these don't work, try going to your router manufacturer's site and searching for info.

Alexandra-Sweet

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23 Jul 2008 at 19:55 - 73

Default for routers is always unless specified otherwise by your isp.
Password: admin
Logon: admin
Also with some routers you don't need to enter a password if you connect to the router with a cable (and not wireless).

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W/Mo

23 Jul 2008 at 19:59 - 74

Ahhh... I found some information @ google and i restored my modem to the buying state.. 1234 worked just fine now

I'm making the ports atm.

samba

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W/Mo

23 Jul 2008 at 20:04 - 75

Holy crap o.O That -images thing is probably gonna take a while? :E

Snograt

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23 Jul 2008 at 21:09 - 76

Yup. The slower your download speed, the longer it's going to take. You will be glad you did, though. None of that annoying downloading everytime you enter a new area or outpost.

If you ever get the damn thing to work, of course.

Why did you choose that particular näytönohjain? (hehe - Google rocks

)

samba

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W/Mo

24 Jul 2008 at 08:43 - 77

Ahhh... Got the -image thing done, with my 500kb/s it was pretty quick

Got the ports made also.

Now, guess what? When I open GW, that downloading screen comes up, shows 0%, and then closes, but GW doesn't open. :E

samba

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W/Mo

24 Jul 2008 at 08:52 - 78

Answer to your question: Couple of my friends recommended that for Neverwinter nights playing, and also it was kinda cheap so it's good for me.

No practicular reason.

Sooo.. I thought that I should remove the -image, I did and opened GW and fronze AGAIN! FFS....

E: OOOLEEE! I sucsesfully downloaded the 169 drivers AND GW OPENED! Ohhhyes... Now lets just see if it freezez more...

E3: After about 10-20mins of play, everything froze again..

I was playing windowed mode. Well, some progress, I can open GW now...

Dark Kal

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24 Jul 2008 at 10:10 - 79

You need to reinstall DirectX 9 properly.

http://www.instant-registry-fixes.or...all-directx-9/

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24 Jul 2008 at 11:28 - 80

Oh god I screw this thing up....
I deleted the registry file before I reinstalled DirectX.... :|

Now im gettin a error like this when i try to install DX9:
http://pastebin.org/56639

Shet...