Well I am suggesting a new not quite account wide Title system
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Let me lay out my suggestion so it is easily understandable.
In the coming HoM update you will be able to toggle between character and account wide HoM.
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When you press the Hero Panel in GW you see your titles.
I am suggesting we add a new tab called account wide titles.
Here is how it would work.
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Character #1 - Has finished 15/25 missions in his protector of tyria title
Character 1 - in his "character title menu" have 15/25
Character #2 - Has finished the other 10 missions (none repeated)
Character 2 - in his "character title menu" he will have 10/25
In the account wide title there will be a 25/25 prot of tyria account wide title.
please note for KoaBD is only affected by character title based max titles not the account wide titles.
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Whats the point?
Look at it this way we all want to play multiple characters without hurting ourselves in GW2.
Maybe your guild requires you to play a monk for a certain mission. But your monk doesn't have that title near completion compared to your dervish.
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What about other reason?
Let me set up this situation.
I got r 7 asuran title track on my dervish so my pain inverter is awesome.
I love to play my Necromancer but he only has a r 2 asuran title track
well lets assume the r7+r2 = r8 in account wide.
to get passed r 8 account wide players must play on HM (just like in character based).
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Why would I work on character based titles if everything has a account wide equivalent?
For those going for KoaBD title the only way they can achieve this title is if they max of (x) number of character based titles.
At the max rank of KoaBD it becomes account wide for everyone to use.
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Further examples.
I unlocked 50 chests on my monk so that makes my character title
50/100 for r 1.
But I have 25 unlocked on my necromancer which makes my character title
25/100
but my account title would be 75/100.
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any questions ? Just ask
Just an idea (dont flame me :P)
New title idea. Read the whole post.
The Evil Monkey
Pleikki
That would just be, stupid, these titles are allready so easy to obtain why should they make it even easyer
The Evil Monkey
It isnt about the titles.
It is about playing other characters people are turned off about play more than 1 character because they have to gain titles for 1 character. So if they were to attain the title by playing multiple character why not.
It would NOT BE EASIER in fact it would be the SAME amount of difficulty.
All the titles are the same other than you play different characters.
Same time spent just on different characters. Nothing changes just more variety
It is about playing other characters people are turned off about play more than 1 character because they have to gain titles for 1 character. So if they were to attain the title by playing multiple character why not.
It would NOT BE EASIER in fact it would be the SAME amount of difficulty.
All the titles are the same other than you play different characters.
Same time spent just on different characters. Nothing changes just more variety
Ghostcell
/notsigned
it would make it easier, due to the face that if your r7 one one character in say delver, then you get r5 or what ever on another so say that gives your 10 combined, you don't have to do any HM at all to max it.
stupid attempt at making titles way to easy.
it would make it easier, due to the face that if your r7 one one character in say delver, then you get r5 or what ever on another so say that gives your 10 combined, you don't have to do any HM at all to max it.
stupid attempt at making titles way to easy.
Babael
I think you are all misreading what hes saying. R7 +R3 does not make R10. What he's saying is the numbers will add up and not the actual ranks.
Such as the example he made with the chests.
It's a good idea. Basicaly all titles are account wide. Considering GW is coming to an end. Why not?
/signed
Such as the example he made with the chests.
It's a good idea. Basicaly all titles are account wide. Considering GW is coming to an end. Why not?
/signed
FoxBat
The only way to get people to read your whole post is to make it shorter, apparently.
Anyway this is basically the same as turning all titles account-wide, except they don't count for KoaBD. It would be nice to pick different chars for each vanquish zone when working on hall of monuments... not sure it's nice enough for the mess of work on Anet's part though.
Anyway this is basically the same as turning all titles account-wide, except they don't count for KoaBD. It would be nice to pick different chars for each vanquish zone when working on hall of monuments... not sure it's nice enough for the mess of work on Anet's part though.
MirkoTeran
Just another cheap way of making titles account wide. /notsigned
The Evil Monkey
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/notsigned
it would make it easier, due to the face that if your r7 one one character in say delver, then you get r5 or what ever on another so say that gives your 10 combined, you don't have to do any HM at all to max it. stupid attempt at making titles way to easy. |
please understand my suggestion before posting your choice if you have any questions please ask
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Just another cheap way of making titles account wide. /notsigned
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don't you fail in GW2....
pamelf
I agree that some should be account wide...the chests for instance.
I don't really get your protector, or asura etc titles...
I do agree with K0ABD title being account wide, and taking different titles from each character. For instance I could have protector on one, carto on another, etc, and I do think that each of those should count toward an overarching KoABD.
I don't really get your protector, or asura etc titles...
I do agree with K0ABD title being account wide, and taking different titles from each character. For instance I could have protector on one, carto on another, etc, and I do think that each of those should count toward an overarching KoABD.
The Evil Monkey
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I agree that some should be account wide...the chests for instance.
I don't really get your protector, or asura etc titles... I do agree with K0ABD title being account wide, and taking different titles from each character. For instance I could have protector on one, carto on another, etc, and I do think that each of those should count toward an overarching KoABD. |
On my dervish I have finished 24/25 missions
I just havent finished Ice Caves of Sorrow
On my Necro I can complete Ice Caves of Sorrow thus giving me
protector of tyria account wide.
But on my character tab of the titles it would still be 24/25 on my dervish
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Ghostcell
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Originally Posted by Babael
I think you are all misreading what hes saying. R7 +R3 does not make R10. What he's saying is the numbers will add up and not the actual ranks.
Such as the example he made with the chests. It's a good idea. Basicaly all titles are account wide. Considering GW is coming to an end. Why not? /signed |
no, i'm not misread- i was using r7 and r5 as an example.
put it this way,
i get r7 norn 56k points - on character 1. - No HM required
i get r7 norn 56k points - on character 2. - No HM required
combined that gives me 112k points
112k points would give you r9.
get a 3rd character to r7 56k points that would give you
168k points, which is more then enough for r10 - max
there for all your characters would have max norn, way way to easy to get a max rank like that AND!
you make a new character - rush them through get them ursan blessing.
you could have a lvl 10 or 11 with r10 ursan.
again
/notsigned
fireflyry
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Originally Posted by The Evil Monkey
the 12 chars thing is obviously there so you have to offer your opinion so if you dont mind why did you vote no?
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It speaks for itself.
It would make account wide title based HoM rewards way to easy.
No.
I'm no title fan but this change would do nothing but make veterans and title grinders pissed off and casuals happy.Anet has done us a favor with the new account based system for HoM.
Thats's more than enough imo.
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Originally Posted by The Evil Monkey
Look at it this way we all want to play multiple characters without hurting ourselves in GW2.
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My conclusion:Wanting something for nothing, or at the least minimal effort.
No thanks.
I hate titles dude, but this idea is pretty silly.
Charlotte the Harlot
/signed, hardly makes it any easier and does exactly what he says removes the dependency on having one main character and allows you to play multiple characters with out missing out on stuff in GW2
Jennie
But as other people have explained it makes things much easier... I disagree with it and think it would be a horrible idea.
/notsigned
/notsigned
The Evil Monkey
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Originally Posted by Jennie
But as other people have explained it makes things much easier... I disagree with it and think it would be a horrible idea.
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MirkoTeran
Does it make it harder? No. Does it stay the same? No. There is only one other alternative...
The Evil Monkey
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Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
Does it make it harder? No. Does it stay the same? No. There is only one other alternative...
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If I farmed 5k sunspear rep on character 1 and it took 20 minutes
would it be harder than farming 2.5k rep on character 1 for 10 minutes
and 2.5k rep on character 2 for 10 minutes?
duckboy
clearly people havn't read this post to i'd like to repost it further down 
by this it does make it easier to max pve skills, but then what do u expect from making something account based? ur always gonna run into the same problem of new characters having max titles thus max pve skills from the off.
This is why i dont like the Kurz/Lux title. If u max it out, get 10k faction stored, then make a new character in faction/nightfall (proph has pre so no gh), then go to guild hall, u'r newb lvl1 character gets 3 max pve skills!
i still would like the idea of an account wide tab since i do most of my title/mission progressions on a spreadsheet (10 character = hard to remember who has what
), but thats more of a conveniance than anything game wise.
so the idea of an account tab - /signed
the idea of account based mission, etc. titles - /NOTsigned
the idea of some titles like treasure account based - signed
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Originally Posted by Ghostcell
no, i'm not misread- i was using r7 and r5 as an example.
put it this way, i get r7 norn 56k points - on character 1. - No HM required i get r7 norn 56k points - on character 2. - No HM required combined that gives me 112k points 112k points would give you r9. get a 3rd character to r7 56k points that would give you 168k points, which is more then enough for r10 - max there for all your characters would have max norn, way way to easy to get a max rank like that AND! you make a new character - rush them through get them ursan blessing. you could have a lvl 10 or 11 with r10 ursan. again /notsigned |
This is why i dont like the Kurz/Lux title. If u max it out, get 10k faction stored, then make a new character in faction/nightfall (proph has pre so no gh), then go to guild hall, u'r newb lvl1 character gets 3 max pve skills!
i still would like the idea of an account wide tab since i do most of my title/mission progressions on a spreadsheet (10 character = hard to remember who has what
), but thats more of a conveniance than anything game wise. so the idea of an account tab - /signed
the idea of account based mission, etc. titles - /NOTsigned
the idea of some titles like treasure account based - signed
Abedeus
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tl;dr
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/signed here, although about protector, missions should count only if are unique. For example, if one character has Fort Ranik on Master, and the other one has Great Wall - it's 2/25. But if both have Fort Ranik OR Great Wall on master, it's still 1/25.
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duckboy
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So how is it different from playing 1 character and getting 160k in the first place?
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tho tbh if u made it so once u got account rank 8 any character would have to do HM to get r9 and 10 account, THEN and ONLY THEN, would it work out the same
so i see where both of u are coming from...
Ghostcell is right that a player could cut out Hard mode entirely and thus make it easier, but like some of u have pointed out, u could just make it where as Hard Mode has to be done to get r9 and 10 account wide just like it does atm with character based.
Tread carefully young ones, this could lead to a path of the dark side....
Arduin
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Cheap way? This is to promote the use of more than one character rather than being trapped to one character because if you
don't you fail in GW2.... |
I'd suggest this idea for just completing your HoM, for the kicks of it, for supporting playing multiple characters again. But I think you are just afraid you will be left out at GW2 launch.
pumpkin pie
Arena Net gives you one inch you want 10 feet. haha
/not signed
ps: I did not signed title to be account base either, the new HoM is in my opinion breaking the game like lots of you would love to say, even more. Players who use to have the initiative to make many characters is going to now not even bother to play any other characters anymore.
/not signed
ps: I did not signed title to be account base either, the new HoM is in my opinion breaking the game like lots of you would love to say, even more. Players who use to have the initiative to make many characters is going to now not even bother to play any other characters anymore.
Xanatas
There are many reasons why it wouldnt work, but one very important reason why i wouldnt want it it to happen.
I already have one character that has max rank for all GWEN Reputations. With your idea, if i want to go raise reputation on any other character i can not do that in normal mode? oookaaay
PLUS!
[Dev Update] Upcoming Changes to the Hall of Monuments - 24 June 2008
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Arena...eloper_updates
MORAL:
It pays off to read (MONTH OLD) developers news.
I already have one character that has max rank for all GWEN Reputations. With your idea, if i want to go raise reputation on any other character i can not do that in normal mode? oookaaay
PLUS!
[Dev Update] Upcoming Changes to the Hall of Monuments - 24 June 2008
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Arena...eloper_updates
MORAL:
It pays off to read (MONTH OLD) developers news.
A11Eur0
I'm going to not sign this. The higher levels of the titles are harder to achieve for a reason. 10/25 missions on one char, 15/25 on another char, 25/25 account-wide? So I don't even have to take one single character to Hell's Precipice? I can just make 5 characters in Nightfall, do missions up to Venta, and have protector of elona on every character in my stable?
I think you need to stop drinking the bong water my friend.
I think you need to stop drinking the bong water my friend.
Johny bravo
I don't get it. They are titles for a reason. They represent effort put forth on a particular character in the game. If you look at it I believe the only account wide PvE based titles are lucky and tragic and in reality those are afk titles.
There are already too many thread on this whining that it is too hard to get 30 titles and they should be account based becuase I have opend 1K chest on this character and 2K on this one and I want them combined QQ. While this one isn't as bad as those it has the same premise.
The title system is character based becuase it is the accomplishments of that toon that are being recognized, not the account. It is different in PvP becuase you change classes so much to play a variety of builds so it wouldn't make sense to lock in the character class.
There is absolutly no reason why my monk should get bonuses for asuran, norn, LB or SS b/c I have another character with title progression as well. Remember those titles are reputation titles why should one character get the reputation of another one when he doesn't deserve it.
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One more comment chest running. I currently am working on this for my necro, and it sucks (figure i can work on 3 titles this way and I am currently at 26). Taking my warrior or sin out for chest running would be so much easier but then why should my necro get the credit for the work done by someone else. You really have to see each character as a different person when it comes to PvE (again PvP is different)
There are already too many thread on this whining that it is too hard to get 30 titles and they should be account based becuase I have opend 1K chest on this character and 2K on this one and I want them combined QQ. While this one isn't as bad as those it has the same premise.
The title system is character based becuase it is the accomplishments of that toon that are being recognized, not the account. It is different in PvP becuase you change classes so much to play a variety of builds so it wouldn't make sense to lock in the character class.
There is absolutly no reason why my monk should get bonuses for asuran, norn, LB or SS b/c I have another character with title progression as well. Remember those titles are reputation titles why should one character get the reputation of another one when he doesn't deserve it.
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One more comment chest running. I currently am working on this for my necro, and it sucks (figure i can work on 3 titles this way and I am currently at 26). Taking my warrior or sin out for chest running would be so much easier but then why should my necro get the credit for the work done by someone else. You really have to see each character as a different person when it comes to PvE (again PvP is different)
Shayne Hawke
I'm confused on what you're asking for.
My first interpretation is that you're asking for all characters to share any points they've earned towards a number of titles. While I may agree with some titles being moved to account based, I can't agree with some other examples you gave.
My second interpretation is that you want characters' title points to be added and treated as an account title, which would then be what you use for the HoM in the account-based update. I don't see a reason why that should be implemented.
My first interpretation is that you're asking for all characters to share any points they've earned towards a number of titles. While I may agree with some titles being moved to account based, I can't agree with some other examples you gave.
My second interpretation is that you want characters' title points to be added and treated as an account title, which would then be what you use for the HoM in the account-based update. I don't see a reason why that should be implemented.
Enko
I think what the OP was going for with the protector titles is that you would still have to complete all 25 missions but it wouldn't have to be on the same character.
If you're going to have the rep titles work account wide, you're going to need to raise the number of points for account wide usage. keep the single title max points the same as currently but for the account wide one, add more points.
some titles like wisdom, party, drunkard, sweet tooth, chests, etc could be made account wide though again, you might need to increase the number again.
If you're going to have the rep titles work account wide, you're going to need to raise the number of points for account wide usage. keep the single title max points the same as currently but for the account wide one, add more points.
some titles like wisdom, party, drunkard, sweet tooth, chests, etc could be made account wide though again, you might need to increase the number again.
romeus petrus
you lost me at new title.
/notsigned
/notsigned
Tyla
/Notsigned.
It's an interesting concept, though. Either way we have the Hall of Monuments becoming account based soon.
It's an interesting concept, though. Either way we have the Hall of Monuments becoming account based soon.
Kanyatta
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Look at it this way we all want to play multiple characters without hurting ourselves in GW2.
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Point I'm trying to make, by not having your HoM maxed out, you are probably not going to "hurt yourself in GW2" because the reward probably won't be worth having.
MithranArkanere
Although many character-based grind titles should become account-based, the achievement titles should remain character-based.
TheRaven
/not signed here.
Titles like protector are character based and I believe they should remain character based. It really doesn't make much sense to combine them together for an account based benefit.
The only part of your post that I agree with and would like to see implemented is a separate tab for Account based titles. Move the account based titles to their own tab for easier title management.
Titles like protector are character based and I believe they should remain character based. It really doesn't make much sense to combine them together for an account based benefit.
The only part of your post that I agree with and would like to see implemented is a separate tab for Account based titles. Move the account based titles to their own tab for easier title management.
komma
F, D, F, HP (close range)
officially just finished this thread.
officially just finished this thread.
Ariena Najea
/signed for wisdom and treasure hunter titles
/notsigned for others, starting out with Legendary Spearmarshal and such is just silly.
/notsigned for others, starting out with Legendary Spearmarshal and such is just silly.
Miss Puddles
the only titles i see this being logical and useful for is treasure hunter/wisdom, possibly sweet tooth/drunkard.
but people have been asking for that change forever, so /notsigned on all titles having that type of merging.
but people have been asking for that change forever, so /notsigned on all titles having that type of merging.
Ghostcell
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clearly people havn't read this post to i'd like to repost it further down
by this it does make it easier to max pve skills, but then what do u expect from making something account based? ur always gonna run into the same problem of new characters having max titles thus max pve skills from the off. This is why i dont like the Kurz/Lux title. If u max it out, get 10k faction stored, then make a new character in faction/nightfall (proph has pre so no gh), then go to guild hall, u'r newb lvl1 character gets 3 max pve skills! i still would like the idea of an account wide tab since i do most of my title/mission progressions on a spreadsheet (10 character = hard to remember who has what ), but thats more of a conveniance than anything game wise. so the idea of an account tab - /signed the idea of account based mission, etc. titles - /NOTsigned the idea of some titles like treasure account based - signed |
you have to be level 20 to get the kurz/lux pve only skills.
anyway its obvious anet won't ever add this stupid idea, and i'm glad that they won't.
like i said, you could have a level 10 with max norn, from just doing a bunch of NM stuff on several other characters.
Sparks Dawnbringer
/signed With an account wide system it would not be any easier to get titles it would only be easier to get them on more than one character. You still have to do all the work just not as many times.
the 55 warrior?!?
most of the reason y most ppl choose not signed is because there ether misinterpriting wat he is saying or they didnt read the hold thing so a-net, base wether you dicide to do this on ur own opinions not the opinions of retards
Trylo
this suggestion does not make getting titles easier... at all... in any aspect. the only thing this does is makes filling the HoM more account based because the sweet tooth, chest open, (un)lucky, party animal titles can be fulfilled by multiple characters, not just one (this does not make it easier, it just means you can have 500 points on one char, 250 points on two chars and have 1000 on your account). you have either misinterpreted the original intent, or dont care if youre right and just want to bash someone.
1) he states that to get above r8 in account wise in any of those eotn titles you need to be in HM. WOW that was hard to understand. and who cares if a new char has maxed pve titles...? seriously what is wrong with that i truly do not understand at all.
2) OF COURSE you cannot make 25 chars and take them through the first mission and get bonus+mission and have a title. you need to have beaten EACH mission + bonus for the account wide to recognize your title. if i did the first 15 missions+bonus of proph with my monk, then the first 10 missions+bonus of proph with an ele, account wide i would have 15/25 for missions+bonus. that wasnt too hard to understand, was it?
anyways this thread was sabotaged by people who cant read, so sorry about your idea getting such a negative reputation.
1) he states that to get above r8 in account wise in any of those eotn titles you need to be in HM. WOW that was hard to understand. and who cares if a new char has maxed pve titles...? seriously what is wrong with that i truly do not understand at all.
2) OF COURSE you cannot make 25 chars and take them through the first mission and get bonus+mission and have a title. you need to have beaten EACH mission + bonus for the account wide to recognize your title. if i did the first 15 missions+bonus of proph with my monk, then the first 10 missions+bonus of proph with an ele, account wide i would have 15/25 for missions+bonus. that wasnt too hard to understand, was it?
anyways this thread was sabotaged by people who cant read, so sorry about your idea getting such a negative reputation.
Ghostcell
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this suggestion does not make getting titles easier... at all... in any aspect. the only thing this does is makes filling the HoM more account based because the sweet tooth, chest open, (un)lucky, party animal titles can be fulfilled by multiple characters, not just one (this does not make it easier, it just means you can have 500 points on one char, 250 points on two chars and have 1000 on your account). you have either misinterpreted the original intent, or dont care if youre right and just want to bash someone.
1) he states that to get above r8 in account wise in any of those eotn titles you need to be in HM. WOW that was hard to understand. and who cares if a new char has maxed pve titles...? seriously what is wrong with that i truly do not understand at all. 2) OF COURSE you cannot make 25 chars and take them through the first mission and get bonus+mission and have a title. you need to have beaten EACH mission + bonus for the account wide to recognize your title. if i did the first 15 missions+bonus of proph with my monk, then the first 10 missions+bonus of proph with an ele, account wide i would have 15/25 for missions+bonus. that wasnt too hard to understand, was it? anyways this thread was sabotaged by people who cant read, so sorry about your idea getting such a negative reputation. |
even so lvl 10 with r8 norn = +18 armor, +180 health
if they added this they would loose a huge amount of the community