There are quite a few skills that Wars have that could have Cracked Armor conditoin added to them to make them more usable.
[power attack] currently very underused, adding Cracked armor would make this a very powerfull skill.
[Soldier's Strike] could also add it.
[Desperation Blow] and [Drunken Blow] ABSOLUTELY should have this condition added to the list they can cause.
Give warriors ability to crack armor
Crom The Pale
Rhamia Darigaz
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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
There are quite a few skills that Wars have that could have Cracked Armor conditoin added to them to make them more usable.
[power attack] currently very underused, adding Cracked armor would make this a very powerfull skill. [Soldier's Strike] could also add it. [Desperation Blow] and [Drunken Blow] ABSOLUTELY should have this condition added to the list they can cause. |
maybe cracked armor isn't meant to be on wars. [distracting strike] is stricly worse than [distracting shot] because anet intentionally made rangers better at interrupting than wars. wars are meant to do big domage, and they already do that. if you really need cracked armor put it on your midline, they're there for things like that
Sage Tylos
[lightning orb] vs. [lightning orb (pvp)]... typing that doesn't work lol, needs to be updated...
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Lightning_Orb
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Lightning_Orb_%28PvP%29
If you're only concerned with PvE, they could easily add the cracked armor effect to a couple skills for PvE only, like orby there.
also, typing [cracked armor] doesn't work either
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Lightning_Orb
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Lightning_Orb_%28PvP%29
If you're only concerned with PvE, they could easily add the cracked armor effect to a couple skills for PvE only, like orby there.
also, typing [cracked armor] doesn't work either
the savage nornbear
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
, then I assume distracting shot should also require cracked armor because both of them are basically the same skills with one requiring cracked armor and the other doesn't?
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You're right though. Getting hit with hammer would make a dent in anyones armor. Warriors are the most logical armor crackers in the game, so /signed.
Rhamia Darigaz
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Originally Posted by the savage nornbear
shhh...
You're right though. Getting hit with hammer would make a dent in anyones armor. Warriors are the most logical armor crackers in the game, so /signed. |
pumpkin pie
some armor should not be cracked in my opinion, how do you crack a silk clothing? :P
MagmaRed
This is a game not meant to be played solo. Since you have anywhere from 3-7 other people on your team for general PvE and PvP, and up to 11 other people for elite missions, you have other sources for Cracked Armor.
Elementalist, Necromancer, Ritualist, and Mesmer all have ways to supply Cracked Armor to an enemy. If Cracked Armor is something that is needed for your build, and you can't fit a skill to provide it in your build, ask a team mate to supply it. If you can't coordinate with the people you are playing with, you need to learn how to play a cooperative game. If you are using heroes+hench, then you need to learn how to create builds for an entire team with synergy.
Elementalist, Necromancer, Ritualist, and Mesmer all have ways to supply Cracked Armor to an enemy. If Cracked Armor is something that is needed for your build, and you can't fit a skill to provide it in your build, ask a team mate to supply it. If you can't coordinate with the people you are playing with, you need to learn how to play a cooperative game. If you are using heroes+hench, then you need to learn how to create builds for an entire team with synergy.
Arkantos
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My point? What were they thinking!?!?!?? It is bad enough we need a cracked armor condition, but the fact we must waste our secondary just to revolve around that one skill to apply cracked armor and interrupt? |
Remember kids, Guild Wars is a team game. Not every class can do everything, which is why you need team work. Skills like distracting strike and body blow are promoting co-ordination and team play, which is a good thing.
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Rhamia Darigaz
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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie
some armor should not be cracked in my opinion, how do you crack a silk clothing? :P
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Dr.Jones
i think adding it to [cleave] would add a buff to a skill that is old and not relay used anymore
Rhamia Darigaz
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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones
i think adding it to [cleave] would add a buff to a skill that is old and not relay used anymore
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edit: also i wouldn't drop eviscerape for cracked armor
MisterB
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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones
i think adding it to [cleave] would add a buff to a skill that is old and not relay used anymore
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That would make [Cleave] + [Body Blow] the same as having both [Cleave] and [Eviscerate] on one bar.
[[Cleave] is fine; it doesn't need a buff.
Dr.Jones
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Originally Posted by MisterB
I think that would be a terrible idea.
That would make [Cleave] + [Body Blow] the same as having both [Cleave] and [Eviscerate] on one bar. [[Cleave] is fine; it doesn't need a buff. |
Elder III
give me cracked armor as a PVE only skill - that way those that say it is "unbalancing" don't have to worry about it in PVP and those that say it "just makes sense for a warrior to crack armor" can have it for dungeons or mob slaughter etc... Simple solution, but personally I don't give a hoot either way. 
Hugh Manatee
I like how people are acting like you can't take skills from a secondary profession...
Rothan Celt
/signed
I understand where you are coming from a Proffession should be able to use there own skills without the help of a 2nd proffession. But skills such as DS could be a call to mix and match more
I still use Shell shock a lot on my warrior.
*BAM Lightning strike Big ass hammer COming At CHA! uff* <3
I understand where you are coming from a Proffession should be able to use there own skills without the help of a 2nd proffession. But skills such as DS could be a call to mix and match more
I still use Shell shock a lot on my warrior.*BAM Lightning strike Big ass hammer COming At CHA! uff* <3
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Elder III
give me cracked armor as a PVE only skill
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the Puppeteer
Oooh - so warriors now need a skill for cracked armor eh? WITHOUT taking a secondary proff?.... well
[Piercing Trap], [Body Shot], [Chest Thumper], [Aura Slicer] say hi too
Warriors logically apply Cracked armor? Does the ele spell fireball blow crap up forever? Does burning actually make your char burn it's skin off? Walking in hot lava? - no prob!
Just go with a second proff and quit QQ
[Piercing Trap], [Body Shot], [Chest Thumper], [Aura Slicer] say hi too
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Originally Posted by Kain Fz
Warriors should be the most likely to expect applying cracked armor to foes because of the concepts of a warrior's "strength" breaking the enemy's armor. Yet, I've looked through all their skills, and they CANNOT!
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Just go with a second proff and quit QQ
MagmaRed
[awe]
Give Paragon a way to knock a target down too then.
Give Paragon a way to knock a target down too then.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by The Puppeteer
Warriors logically apply Cracked armor? Does the ele spell fireball blow crap up forever? Does burning actually make your char burn it's skin off? Walking in hot lava? - no prob!
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MagmaRed
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Originally Posted by Tyla
I want to actually chop people's heads off with Decapitate too.
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Alex the Great
[shell shock][body blow][executioner's strike][distracting strike][bull's strike][frenzy][rush]
rofled with this in RA, worked alright
rofled with this in RA, worked alright
MithranArkanere
I say: Pick one Mammer Mastery Core non-elite crappy under-used skill and change it to deal cracked armor.
End of story.
End of story.
Atra Culpa
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Originally Posted by MagmaRed
[awe]
Give Paragon a way to knock a target down too then. |
I mean c'mon [shock] and [awe]. It was meant to be
I see the OP's point as to having skills with boni that can not be attained by that class alone, but to that i say what many others have already voiced, Team game, Team synergies, secondary professions, build synergy.
MisterB
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Originally Posted by Atra Culpa
This is where the secondary profession comes in:
I mean c'mon [shock] and [awe]. It was meant to be I see the OP's point as to having skills with boni that can not be attained by that class alone, but to that i say what many others have already voiced, Team game, Team synergies, secondary professions, build synergy. |
/signed for chopping off heads with Decapitate, btw. If ANet doesn't add the animation now, heads will roll.
Don Doggy
/notsigned
Don't think there is any great need for a warrior skill that causes cracked armour.
Don't think there is any great need for a warrior skill that causes cracked armour.
MithranArkanere
Those conditional skills are fine too: For example, like when the condition is applied if the enemy blocks the attack.
Zidane Ortef
Well I've only got a few things to say
1. PvP: RA is random for a reason, TA you have 3 other members who can make cracked armor, GvG;HA you have 7 other people to do the job.
2. PvE out of all three games your normal party size is 8 so again 7 other people you can crack armor, otherwise 5 or 3 to do the job.
You've got a party for a reason
[Lightning Orb] -Ele
[Shell Shock] -Ele
[Shrinking Armor] -Mes
[Sundering Weapon] -Rit
[Weaken Armor] -Nec
[Well of Ruin] -Nec
PvE only skills
["Finish Him!"]
[Alkar's Alchemical Acid]
[Low Blow]
If your that worried about it throw one of those skills on a party member or even better, add ["Finish Him!"] to your warriors bar and can only do good, Ranged KD, DW, CA and at R10 80 free dmg. What warrior in PvE would run with out it.
1. PvP: RA is random for a reason, TA you have 3 other members who can make cracked armor, GvG;HA you have 7 other people to do the job.
2. PvE out of all three games your normal party size is 8 so again 7 other people you can crack armor, otherwise 5 or 3 to do the job.
You've got a party for a reason
[Lightning Orb] -Ele
[Shell Shock] -Ele
[Shrinking Armor] -Mes
[Sundering Weapon] -Rit
[Weaken Armor] -Nec
[Well of Ruin] -Nec
PvE only skills
["Finish Him!"]
[Alkar's Alchemical Acid]
[Low Blow]
If your that worried about it throw one of those skills on a party member or even better, add ["Finish Him!"] to your warriors bar and can only do good, Ranged KD, DW, CA and at R10 80 free dmg. What warrior in PvE would run with out it.
Dark Paladin X
it kinda depends on one's perspective:
For those who purely solely only use warrior skills, inflcting cracked armor will be a problem in PvP (but not in PvE as many have good suggestions here). Other than that, since most warrior builds often involve with using skills from other professions, inflicting cracked armor wouldn't be a problem.
/notsigned
For those who purely solely only use warrior skills, inflcting cracked armor will be a problem in PvP (but not in PvE as many have good suggestions here). Other than that, since most warrior builds often involve with using skills from other professions, inflicting cracked armor wouldn't be a problem.
/notsigned
-Pluto-
The warrior skills that involve cracked armor are amazing already. Making warriors able to apply cracked armor freely would be a horrible mistake.