Proposing a Boycott for GW2, read before you post.
Garsty
A boycott is impossible on a game which wont be out for 1 - 2/3 years, and by the time it is out this pointless thread would of been forgotten about anyway.
hurdlebeast
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Then why do you even post if you don't expect anyone to agree with you? You are just begging for those type of comments, and you have revieved a good amount so far. This is almost trolling, you know this type of post will start people going apesh*t on you.
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Mods can close, apparently GW'ers are content with a broken game.
Sarevok Thordin
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Originally Posted by hurdlebeast
I said everyone, not anyone. I wanted to see how Guru and the GW community responded to an actual potential solution to a problem, and not just another QQ without a cause thread. I posted my ideas, any my solution, and why I thought my solution would work. So far, three posts have actually been polite and meaningful by other people. I was trying to gauge the response the community had to my idea, and go from there..
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I can PvP just fine.
Stuart444
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Originally Posted by hurdlebeast
I said everyone, not anyone. I wanted to see how Guru and the GW community responded to an actual potential solution to a problem, and not just another QQ without a cause thread. I posted my ideas, any my solution, and why I thought my solution would work. So far, three posts have actually been polite and meaningful by other people. I was trying to gauge the response the community had to my idea, and go from there..
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*clicks on GW*
*logs in*
nope, it's working for me mate
hurdlebeast
Not a boycott. The threat of a boycott. A bluff, if you will. Just to see if Anet responds by cleaning up GW. Even if you want to guy GW2, shouldn't you want GW1 to be fixed as well? God forbid Anet takes out the easy buttons in GW.
And where did I say I wasn't going to buy GW2 when it comes out? Yes, i understand the hypocracy of making a thread titled "boycott GW2" and then saying i'm going to buy it anyways. But, GW2 is a few years away, so if we organize a boycott now, it might shake Anet up enough to make them update the game and fix it a bit. It could all go to waste, and they could see right through our bluff. But what's the harm in trying?
And where did I say I wasn't going to buy GW2 when it comes out? Yes, i understand the hypocracy of making a thread titled "boycott GW2" and then saying i'm going to buy it anyways. But, GW2 is a few years away, so if we organize a boycott now, it might shake Anet up enough to make them update the game and fix it a bit. It could all go to waste, and they could see right through our bluff. But what's the harm in trying?
Roman
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Originally Posted by hurdlebeast
This is not a QQ thread
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Lol. Your post is full of Q_q . .
D E C E P T I V E
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LOLOLOLOLOL
The only people that may agree with this are the really hardcore that may make up 5% of total GW community, and if they go away GW would be a better game anyway.
1) How much should ecto cost in your mind. Anyone should have known that ecto was going to drop. If you dont want FoW armor or Chaos Gloves its not good for anything. The only people that would even think about getting that stuff are the hardcore which are a very small percentage of the population. The casual gamer sure as hell isnt going to shell out 5k an ecto to get 75, 120, or 195. People are going to farm them and sell them if they can, keep in mind not many willing to buy them at that price. So those that farm them regularly and have accumulated stockpiles of them sell them at the NPC when they see the price drop and the price drops even furthere.
They will only balance out when the casual gamer thinks it is realistic for them to be able to get FoW or Chaos items and then they will buy them, so they are headed down where they should be headed.
Also they were well on the way down before Ursan and Perma SF. If you ask me thats Anets way of tweaking the game more for its vastly casual gamer community.
If you stockpiled that stuff for currency I think it serves you right. GW should not be about how much gold you can accumulate, and how much you can rip others out of for some stupid item skin. I hope they find a way to take the emphaisis of farming and trading in GW2. If they do that I will for sure be buying it.
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The only people that may agree with this are the really hardcore that may make up 5% of total GW community, and if they go away GW would be a better game anyway.
1) How much should ecto cost in your mind. Anyone should have known that ecto was going to drop. If you dont want FoW armor or Chaos Gloves its not good for anything. The only people that would even think about getting that stuff are the hardcore which are a very small percentage of the population. The casual gamer sure as hell isnt going to shell out 5k an ecto to get 75, 120, or 195. People are going to farm them and sell them if they can, keep in mind not many willing to buy them at that price. So those that farm them regularly and have accumulated stockpiles of them sell them at the NPC when they see the price drop and the price drops even furthere.
They will only balance out when the casual gamer thinks it is realistic for them to be able to get FoW or Chaos items and then they will buy them, so they are headed down where they should be headed.
Also they were well on the way down before Ursan and Perma SF. If you ask me thats Anets way of tweaking the game more for its vastly casual gamer community.
If you stockpiled that stuff for currency I think it serves you right. GW should not be about how much gold you can accumulate, and how much you can rip others out of for some stupid item skin. I hope they find a way to take the emphaisis of farming and trading in GW2. If they do that I will for sure be buying it.
hurdlebeast
If the game isn't broken, why are there so many complaint threads?
ajc2123
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The ONLY thing I want is for K city to be less laggy but thats on MY end of the game so...
gogo anet
hurdlebeast
http://gw.curse.com/articles/details/9779/
who says they don't have money? 84.3 million from Korea alone.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=12673
Edit: if anyone else has any idea of a possible solution to the GW problem, besides "quit QQing" and "play something else" I would love to hear them. Honestly, I would.
who says they don't have money? 84.3 million from Korea alone.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=12673
Edit: if anyone else has any idea of a possible solution to the GW problem, besides "quit QQing" and "play something else" I would love to hear them. Honestly, I would.
Aera Lure
The point of a boycott is to impact sales to help motivate a change in a given policy or course of action. How can you boycott something 2-3 years away?
Also, what's the point? Anet does not read the forums anymore. How would they even know about it. I dont get the sense that they are involved with the community at the moment.
What change are you looking to make? The balancing of all the issues in PvE? That wasnt possible prior to the switch of focus to GW2. A reversion of the mass exodus of older PvPers? Difficult one there too, given there is one developer assigned to GW.
GW is in steady state. Some small tweaks here and there, but its this way until GW2 releases, and at that point, no one is going to be looking to come back and fix GW.
Impossible to even know what the gaming market will be like then. Will we all be off somewhere else? Will we all come back?
Also, what's the point? Anet does not read the forums anymore. How would they even know about it. I dont get the sense that they are involved with the community at the moment.
What change are you looking to make? The balancing of all the issues in PvE? That wasnt possible prior to the switch of focus to GW2. A reversion of the mass exodus of older PvPers? Difficult one there too, given there is one developer assigned to GW.
GW is in steady state. Some small tweaks here and there, but its this way until GW2 releases, and at that point, no one is going to be looking to come back and fix GW.
Impossible to even know what the gaming market will be like then. Will we all be off somewhere else? Will we all come back?
HackingHippie712
As already been mentioned, they're looking at Ursan, and im expecting it to be hit today, or next thursday. That's plenty of time before GW2 comes out.
Basically you're QQing(and yes, you are QQing) about how easy PvE is....guess what? When GW came out it was a PvP based game and it still is. If you're played out with how easy PvE is join the lower tier [kisu] guild and work your way up the PvP ladder
For the most part PvP gets updates when it needs updates(i.e. something being completely broken) and with the meta shifting constantly you should have an easy enough time keeping yourself entertained
Or best yet, there are plenty like you that hate sf/ursan....make a great 5 or 8 man team build that uses neither of these, post it around and let it get popular. When the ursan nerf hits its going to drive away alot of players who will then go to the next best thing(guess what, thats your build) and there you have it! Balanced groups back in elite areas, who would have thunk it?
Basically you're QQing(and yes, you are QQing) about how easy PvE is....guess what? When GW came out it was a PvP based game and it still is. If you're played out with how easy PvE is join the lower tier [kisu] guild and work your way up the PvP ladder
For the most part PvP gets updates when it needs updates(i.e. something being completely broken) and with the meta shifting constantly you should have an easy enough time keeping yourself entertained
Or best yet, there are plenty like you that hate sf/ursan....make a great 5 or 8 man team build that uses neither of these, post it around and let it get popular. When the ursan nerf hits its going to drive away alot of players who will then go to the next best thing(guess what, thats your build) and there you have it! Balanced groups back in elite areas, who would have thunk it?
N1ghtstalker
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Originally Posted by hurdlebeast
If the game isn't broken, why are there so many complaint threads?
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for the rest it's all fine IMO
you're just overreacting way to far
i hope you get a permanent IP ban
and you gotta admit, 75% of the QQ'ing is just by an idiot
tsmarcot
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Originally Posted by hurdlebeast
I said everyone, not anyone. I wanted to see how Guru and the GW community responded to an actual potential solution to a problem, and not just another QQ without a cause thread. I posted my ideas, any my solution, and why I thought my solution would work. So far, three posts have actually been polite and meaningful by other people. I was trying to gauge the response the community had to my idea, and go from there..
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Also, remember that even if you express your concerns as i listed above, they are not going to always agree with you and change the game. But at the very least you voiced your oppinion and contributed positivly to the GW community.
ruskiy_soldat
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Originally Posted by hurdlebeast
If the game isn't broken, why are there so many complaint threads?
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cosyfiep
why boycott....in 2012 I dont think the name guildwars will even be remembered by many....
had no plans to buy it anyways no matter the hype (or lack of it) and it will be many many many months before they get it off the drawing board so I really dont care.
had no plans to buy it anyways no matter the hype (or lack of it) and it will be many many many months before they get it off the drawing board so I really dont care.
Fried Tech
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Originally Posted by hurdlebeast
If the game isn't broken, why are there so many complaint threads?
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Because of the vocal minority.
mostly. the opinions expressed here on guru do not reflect the opinion of a LARGE part of the community
Stuart444
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Originally Posted by hurdlebeast
If the game isn't broken, why are there so many complaint threads?
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Kwith
BOYCOTT!!! BOYCOTT!!!! *looks around, realized no one is joining him*
Ok.......
*sets sign and torches down and backs away slowly whistling*
Sorry pal, you're on your own with this one.
Ok.......
*sets sign and torches down and backs away slowly whistling*
Sorry pal, you're on your own with this one.
N1ghtstalker
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Originally Posted by Kwith
BOYCOTT!!! BOYCOTT!!!! *looks around, realized no one is joining him*
Ok....... *sets sign and torches down and backs away slowly whistling* Sorry pal, you're on your own with this one. |
we're a big group
ajc2123
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Originally Posted by Kwith
BOYCOTT!!! BOYCOTT!!!! *looks around, realized no one is joining him*
Ok....... *sets sign and torches down and backs away slowly whistling* Sorry pal, you're on your own with this one. |
Oh my thats funny
hurdlebeast
Gli
Boycott? Why stop there? I'm planning to bring ANet to the attention of the U.N. security council. This is serious business.
MithranArkanere
Boycott? Traitor!
Aera Lure
There's no denying Anet dropped the ball on a number of points, but there is no going back now. It has its own momentum and they made their choices in terms of schedule, resource allocation and a close-to-the-chest sort of CR stance. I dont agree with it, but there's no changing it. Nothing we can do but wait and they are banking that when GW2 comes out, we'll all be there. We might. We might not. There's no way to know.
tsmarcot
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Originally Posted by Gli
Boycott? Why stop there? I'm planning to bring ANet to the attention of the U.N. security council. This is serious business.
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/sarcasm
Good luck in your THREAT of a one person Boycott to BLACKMAIL Anet for creating a game that you say is broken and the rest of us still play regardless.
Skitsefrenik
Wouldn't it make more sense to host a "Do not log in" Weekend rather telling a company you are not going to buy something that is 1/4 ready? Apparently the Ursan nerf is coming...just hope it's not the weekend before GW2 comes out.
-Sonata-
1) Unless anyone here has full access to Anet's financial books, noone is in the right place to say what money is, or isn't there, and what resources can be allocated where. Anet is not Blizzard, or I.D, or Square Enix. If we want GW2 as soon as possible we have to accept that, with limited resources, those resources are going to GW2. In an unlimited resource world we can add without subtracting from another. That's not how it works though.
2) Ectos were never designed to be the balance in trading. That was designed by the players and should be up to the players to correct. When you deal with an item that is going to move up and down in price it's the risk you take. Perhaps players need to find an item that remains stagnant, or with less movement. ZKeys are already being used, but also Lockpicks, Black Dye, white dye, Superior Vigor. There are other options out there. Make use of them instead of asking Anet to hold your hands.
3) We've been informed changes to Ursan are coming and even though that should make many happy, it will only lead to additional complaints of incompetence on Anet's behalf for being "Durr 8 months too late! "
4) It's easy if you've been here for 3+ years. To the rookie, who hasn't unlocked every skill, hasn't played through each compaign, who doesn't know each mission like the back of their hand, who doesn't know builds, enemy builds, counters, fixes.....well, it's not easy. 20 months playing now and I can't believe the NF mission with Shiro took me 15 times to finally complete. Nowadays? It's a cakewalk...and no, I don't use Ursan.
5) I don't know what "Illusion" it is you speak of about it coming soon if Anet spoke up, but - http://guildwars.com/products/guildwars2/gw2faq/ We've already been told it's not going to be anytime soon.
Yes, things are broken in areas, but the world is not even close to coming to an end and I'm not going to buy into the hysteria some seem to want to create. If you want to create a negative atmosphere 24/7 by preying on the hysteria, waving your pitchfork, or the "World is Ending" mentality, you're adding to this downfall and you're a big cause of this downfall as much as your perception of the mismanagement on Anets behalf.
I'm not boycotting anything.
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Did you check the date on that article?
2) Ectos were never designed to be the balance in trading. That was designed by the players and should be up to the players to correct. When you deal with an item that is going to move up and down in price it's the risk you take. Perhaps players need to find an item that remains stagnant, or with less movement. ZKeys are already being used, but also Lockpicks, Black Dye, white dye, Superior Vigor. There are other options out there. Make use of them instead of asking Anet to hold your hands.
3) We've been informed changes to Ursan are coming and even though that should make many happy, it will only lead to additional complaints of incompetence on Anet's behalf for being "Durr 8 months too late! "
4) It's easy if you've been here for 3+ years. To the rookie, who hasn't unlocked every skill, hasn't played through each compaign, who doesn't know each mission like the back of their hand, who doesn't know builds, enemy builds, counters, fixes.....well, it's not easy. 20 months playing now and I can't believe the NF mission with Shiro took me 15 times to finally complete. Nowadays? It's a cakewalk...and no, I don't use Ursan.
5) I don't know what "Illusion" it is you speak of about it coming soon if Anet spoke up, but - http://guildwars.com/products/guildwars2/gw2faq/ We've already been told it's not going to be anytime soon.
Yes, things are broken in areas, but the world is not even close to coming to an end and I'm not going to buy into the hysteria some seem to want to create. If you want to create a negative atmosphere 24/7 by preying on the hysteria, waving your pitchfork, or the "World is Ending" mentality, you're adding to this downfall and you're a big cause of this downfall as much as your perception of the mismanagement on Anets behalf.
I'm not boycotting anything.
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Snow Bunny
That report's about a year and a half old.
hurdlebeast
Did anyone actually read what I wrote and tried to understand where I was coming from, or just skim through it and automatically label it a QQ thread? just wondering...
Tyla
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I think they did care. Because if they didn't care, SF would still be just as quick and no cursed riders would spawn in UW. But A-net gave into elitist QQing about how their ectos practically hit rockbottom and everyone else was getting rich off of it.
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You can't call people elitist just because of something like a skill change for the economy. You can't call people elitist because a skill gave you practical godmode.
Oh, and Hurdlebeast is correct.
Gli
I'm boycotting the 2032 Olympics.
Dr Strangelove
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Originally Posted by hurdlebeast
I believe that if we get a boycott going while GW is still clinging to life, we can use it as blackmail for Anet. If they don't fix GW, we don't buy GW2.
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If you don't want to play, don't play, there's no need to throw tantrums about it.
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Originally Posted by hurdlebeast
Did anyone actually read what I wrote and tried to understand where I was coming from, or just skim through it and automatically label it a QQ thread? just wondering...
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Snow Bunny
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Originally Posted by hurdlebeast
Did anyone actually read what I wrote and tried to understand where I was coming from, or just skim through it and automatically label it a QQ thread? just wondering...
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It was seriously misinformed and quite badly thought out.
Not to mention you obviously have no idea of the economics behind a large commerical software company.
Finally, you understood quite well the potential (and probability) of this turning into a flamefest.
You posted an ill-conceived notion and expect us to follow it. Reality check - oops!
hurdlebeast
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Originally Posted by Tyla
Elitist QQ'ers killed my godmode.
You can't call people elitist just because of something like a skill change for the economy. You can't call people elitist because a skill gave you practical godmode. Oh, and Hurdlebeast is correct. |
hurdlebeast
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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
To recap: 2 years from now, you are demanding that Guild Wars 1 receive a slew of updates so you can stop playing it and move onto Guild Wars 2. Yeah, that makes sense.
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Dr Strangelove
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It was seriously misinformed and quite badly thought out.
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Tyla
Maybe. I heard the word Boycott and thought "AWESOME!!"
Sarcasmic BLAST!
Oh, and I also agree with that Kwiff guy. Confusion yay!
Sarcasmic BLAST!
Oh, and I also agree with that Kwiff guy. Confusion yay!
Squishy ftw
I'd like a boycott against stupid threads like these..
Aera Lure
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Originally Posted by Squishy ftw
I'd like a boycott against stupid threads like these..
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