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Rehnahvah Gahro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Underground

Rt/R

31 Jul 2008 at 21:06 - 1

So today they released the official results of the July-Mat. No word is lost about lags/problems. Only the usual "grats to rawr". That's it.

Well, I could be wrong, but that's not the kind of Community-Policy that I would expect. I'm aware of the fact that Anet didn't have direct influence on the lags/disconnects, but a reaction (of whichever kind) would be appreciated.

As important GW2 is and as few people play mats (compared to the rest), THAT is not the reaction I had hoped to see. No Reaction whatsoever...

What do you think? Is it ok for them to just move on or what did you expect, if you expected anything. Or do you just do. not. care?

I would suggest you quickly post your responses (keep' em as flame-free as possible) because I have the feeling this thread will not see the next morning.

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

31 Jul 2008 at 21:08 - 2

thats how they roll

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

31 Jul 2008 at 21:14 - 3

If everyone just acts like it didn't happen then it didn't happen, right?

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RIGHT?!?!?!

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

in the middle of a burning cornfield...

Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

31 Jul 2008 at 21:15 - 4

Ya sure, pretty much no one cares about GW anymore. So it shouldn't be that big of a deal. People really just don't care like they used to about this game. So I don't see the problem really. Though some do care it seems like the majority don't anymore.

Guillaume De Sonoma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

aFk

Me/Rt

31 Jul 2008 at 21:17 - 5

It was wrong. I already raged in another thread about this, but Anet should just say that the mAT was ruined and say sorry to all of the teams who practiced and took the time to compete in it.

I never thought I would miss Andrew Patrick so much.

ChillOutDude

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

USA

W/

31 Jul 2008 at 21:19 - 6

If someone actually expect somthing from Anet at this point i'll be surprise .

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

31 Jul 2008 at 21:23 - 7

Nothing they could say can make it any less ruined. I hear there's another one next month.

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

31 Jul 2008 at 21:24 - 8

The mAT?

Who cares about PvP, I mean, does anyone? PvE is the metagame, right?

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Guys?

Grunntar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

31 Jul 2008 at 21:29 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rehnahvah Gahro

Or do you just do. not. care?

I. do. not. care.

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

31 Jul 2008 at 21:31 - 10

Never really paid much attention to the mATs or predictions on them, but if players are sighting an obvious problem, I don't know why ANet wouldn't react.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

31 Jul 2008 at 21:34 - 11

Do they think that having upteen 3v3 matches was just random or something? To just completely ignore what happened is incredibly irresponsible on their part and is kind of disgusting when it comes right down to it. I guess it's like a virtual Enron.

kicks66

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

London

[Cape]

E/

31 Jul 2008 at 21:44 - 12

There were network problems for days, no response would really be expected from that.

And mAT results turned out pretty normal anyway.

Keekles

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Floating amongst the ethereal seas of placating breezes.

Like A [Boss]

Mo/

31 Jul 2008 at 21:50 - 13

Several guilds missed out on a chance to make it to single eliminations due to people not loading into matches.

As much as I hoped A-net would have done something, this is exactly what I expected them to do.

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

31 Jul 2008 at 22:03 - 14

I'd always heard that silence is golden?

It is...right?

Sun Fired Blank

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

31 Jul 2008 at 22:11 - 15

Are you retarded? Only a handful of slots are nearly predetermined for the mAT: [rawr], [sup], [pre][EW], [dR][/pre], [StS] are the only guilds you can reasonably anticipate for gold or silver. Any other slot is reasonably open for the guilds ranked from 11 to 50. You think that [dV], [mkay] or many other guilds in the mAT having no shot for top 16 because of errors is "normal?" You think that a shit guild like [DyS] for silver trim is "normal"? You think that [qE] or [vE] or several other top 50 guilds are more deserving of silver than other guilds that didn't place due to disconnects?

Simply because the brackets don't look overly unusual for what we might normally expect doesn't mean that they're normal. There are stronger guilds that didn't make the cut because of errors and weaker guilds that made trim because of the errors, and many good players saw the outcome of their qualifying work determined and obliterated by errors.

If I were A-Net I'd almost not say anything because I'd be so ashamed of the pitiful mAT and my ever-extending list of screwups that I wouldn't be able to open my trap about it or bring myself to write anything. The connection issues were nothing short of pathetic, the monthly was pathetic, and their lack of a decent response is beyond pathetic.

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

31 Jul 2008 at 22:14 - 16

About the only response was Regina's cut-and-paste saying the problem only lasted 2 hours. Honestly, I didn't expect that much. I'm personally not mad at Anet, but I know anyone who got screwed in the MAT has every right to be furious.

Nomme Moon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

31 Jul 2008 at 22:15 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by pamelf

I'd always heard that silence is golden?

It is...right?

More like golden cape if rawr didn't already have 7 :P

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

31 Jul 2008 at 22:44 - 18

I know it has no value but I (a PvEr who'd like to PvP...one day) am in full support of my fellow PvPr's! Very sad story and PvP need more support, now. If the mAT is automated, why can't it be replayed?

Grats to rawr!
/waves

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

31 Jul 2008 at 22:52 - 19

something i've already posted on another board:

Quote:

There were never any lags, they're just part of your imagination. Arena Net's servers worked properly at the time the Monthly ran; the entire community just suffered from problems with their providers at the same time. Not that Arena Net would have to deal with problems, LOL.

..everything's possible with a little bit of imagination.

IMO, just leave the mAT be. Let's just be honest; who really cares anymore? Some undeserved capes out there, some are left with nothing, people can be happy with their Reward Points, many have had unfair treatment, rawr won as always .. just don't mind it. Just wait for next month again. When there was the problem with the map rotation it wasn't mentioned either -- neither did they try to do something about it.
e end;
It's obvious to notice, the interest in GW1 isn't existant anymore. Why should they care about it anymore anyways? Doesn't get them anymore money.

Most of you guys don't even have to care in relation of GW1, it's just gonna be a factor (along with many others) to keep in mind when you consider buying GW2 ..

But anyways, what do you expect them to say?

"We're sorry for the server troubles we had, there was no way we could possibly resolve this in time. We apologize again."

Would that make you happier? Wouldn't make me happier anyways, same as if they just said nothing. We know the reason behind it happening .. there's nothing that can be done about it. In the end; even if the entire community would like a replay of the mAT .. it won't happen. It's their game afterall, no?

Even when Martin returns, [Info: he's a really nice guy and posts on the german fanboard a lot; he's on vacations for now however and people expect him to leave a statement when he returns because he's one of the last to still care] he can't and most likely won't leave a proper statement but just apologize .. and maybe, just maybe, Izzy is trying his best to "apologize" to the PvP community by trying to fix rawr-ways and VoD gameplay.

pzout

Apok Omen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Commence Aggro [BaMf]

Mo/E

31 Jul 2008 at 22:59 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guillaume De Sonoma

I never thought I would miss Andrew Patrick so much.

Same here. He was our only link to Anet's thoughts on PvP issues...

The lag was annoying, yes, but its over with and we can only hope it doesn't happen next month.

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

31 Jul 2008 at 23:00 - 21

There are those that got error 7 in elite missions and in coop missions and what about thse who might of lost thier survivior status.I see them no different than mAT.

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

31 Jul 2008 at 23:01 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by moko

It's obvious to notice, the interest in GW1 isn't existant anymore. Why should they care about it anymore anyways? Doesn't get them anymore money.

Hasn't the Guru PvP tournament shown that there are still people interested and more people coming into PvP (from PvE)? Or is it just that there are too many people leaving to compensate for the newbies?

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

31 Jul 2008 at 23:02 - 23

'we are currently working on gw2' 'there were no problems' 'did something happen?'

just thought I would put those in since no one from anet seems to want to--

I am sorry to those participants who actually wanted to take part in MAT and got scre--pushed aside.....hope you dont have too many hard feelings now.

it was bad, it was longer than 2 hours, and they dont care...what else is there to say?

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

31 Jul 2008 at 23:07 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Hasn't the Guru PvP tournament shown that there are still people interested and more people coming into PvP (from PvE)? Or is it just that there are too many people leaving to compensate for the newbies?

i mean arena net not caring. sure many players care (obviously, see all the discussions), even PvE players care that weren't involved in the mAT..it's a shame that arena net is not doing more out of this.

but the serious PvP community is caring less, it's good that more people are getting into PvP, i hope they'll be interested enough for GW2 to make it better from the start, but for GW1 i gave up most hopes. :P

Metatail

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

31 Jul 2008 at 23:09 - 25

Quote:

Connectivity

Due to the nature of computers and the Internet, ArenaNet is not responsible for the results of any disconnection or network problems experienced by players.

http://guildwars.com/competitive/tou...2008/rules.php

Yyuuup !

Borat X

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2008

E/Me

31 Jul 2008 at 23:16 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by moko

i mean arena net not caring.

Many would argue that they do not have enough $$$ to care about us.

However, I propose that they should pay us to play their game !!!

Ironic twist? You bet!

Panais

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Binge And Purge [HET]

D/W

31 Jul 2008 at 23:28 - 27

so if a football fields grass gets damaged and it rains, and it turns muddy, do u replay the game? no
if Anet re plaid the mats ppl would ask for all mats to be replaid on some retarded reason.

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

31 Jul 2008 at 23:31 - 28

Its Anet 'nuff said.

X Tigercat X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Rt/

31 Jul 2008 at 23:35 - 29

its sad cause anyone who actually plays hb or gvg new this weekend was gonna be like this when they anounced hb weekend during the mat. i mean noone at anet even brought up the fact that this had the chance of happening its so so sad. w/e sux for you guilds that got big rating tanks. i dont gvg but i do alot of hb and i no what its like to get tanked in the mat

its really frustrating. anet shld recognize it and tell people

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

31 Jul 2008 at 23:36 - 30

What are you going to do? Take away rawr's gold cape for the month...? O WAIT! Who really gives a shit it already happened and there will be another mAT next month.

Please quit Le bitching.

ADDED: The weekend event did not have a big part in the lag this weekend as the lag was happening to people in pve as well. I would be in HB and have a lag spike while friends in DoA would have the spike at the same time. yes having a double HB weekend at the same time as the mAT was not bright thinking it was not the cause of the lag.

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

31 Jul 2008 at 23:38 - 31

Anet doesn't even need to do anything; just some kind of recognition that the mAT was completely f'ed over would suffice.

hurdlebeast

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo-Smashing Beast; Mo-Monk Beast

E/Me

31 Jul 2008 at 23:41 - 32

what? you posted a problem with GW, and no insta-flame?

Grumble grumble.....

If it was cash prize, I'd say they are obligated to do something about it. But since it isn't, Welcome to Guild Wars.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

01 Aug 2008 at 00:28 - 33

Quote:

Who really gives a shit it already happened and there will be another mAT next month.

Please quit Le bitching.

Put yourself in the people who lagged out in the mAT's shoes. You got pissed off for lagging in a daily AT. How do you think you'd feel if you lost the monthly because of lag? Think about it.

Anyways, I agree with Lemming. All they have to do is admit the mAT was screwed up because of their server problems. But, they won't do that.

kostolomac

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

Serbia

Me/

01 Aug 2008 at 00:49 - 34

The lags made me grateful that I'm not a serious pvp-er. I would demolosh everything in a 2 meter vicinity if that happened to me.

A.net should have mentioned , apologized and at least said(read lie) that the next mAT will be better , but this is A.net ...

Striken7

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

The District Nudists

R/

01 Aug 2008 at 01:36 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nainoa

lol all these players talking so bad about Arenanet yet you keep playing their game. Whining on forums and continuing to support their game by playing it isn't going to make them change anything. On the other hand, if they begin seeing a lot of players quit logging in (aka potential profit source for GW2) they would (at least logically) do something to fix the problems.

That might be true - if we paid a monthly fee. But since we don't, it would be more logical for Anet not to do a damn thing.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

01 Aug 2008 at 01:41 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nainoa

lol all these players talking so bad about Arenanet yet you keep playing their game. Whining on forums and continuing to support their game by playing it isn't going to make them change anything. On the other hand, if they begin seeing a lot of players quit logging in (aka potential profit source for GW2) they would (at least logically) do something to fix the problems.

You don't have to agree with the actions of ANet to enjoy playing Guild Wars. Also, we supported their game when we bought the game, we're not supporting it by playing it.

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

01 Aug 2008 at 01:49 - 37

The fact that players still log in to play is actually a good enough reason for arena net to want to care. unless they are trying to clear their server.

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

01 Aug 2008 at 02:13 - 38

Its a total joke they even said "congrats to all who took part", no word about those who took part and didnt even get to play a match.... total BS.

Lynx Of Ithorian

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

British Bulldogs [DOGS]

01 Aug 2008 at 02:18 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Age

There are those that got error 7 in elite missions and in coop missions and what about thse who might of lost thier survivior status.I see them no different than mAT.

you work all month collectivley as a guild to accumilate the qualifier points needed to enter the monthly tournament , comparing this to a 'pve mission' which probably takes 3 hours tops is all out retarded ... I dont see why people here insist on making everything a 'pvp vs pve' issue - if u clearly know nothing about the subject , think we want to hear your opinion ?

Starmidder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

01 Aug 2008 at 02:55 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panais

so if a football fields grass gets damaged and it rains, and it turns muddy, do u replay the game? no
if Anet re plaid the mats ppl would ask for all mats to be replaid on some retarded reason.

That is one of the stupidest analogies I've ever heard. They do do replays in major sporting events if its not safe for the players or will irrepairably damage the field by continuing to play. Same thing happens if an entire team cannot show up for reasons that are by no means their fault.