What if there was "friendly fire"
Issac
What if your teammate casts Meteor Shower and you were under it that it also effected you? Or if you cast SS and the damage hits you to? What if guild wars was like that, theirs wouldn't but of the just running in and killing everything. Or what if it was part of hard mode for those people who don't think hard mode is a challenge. What do you guys think?
gigahertz205
HM is just a mode where mobs have higher lvl, faster cast, etc. Its still Pve, which means that i needs to be implemented in NM.
I dont think its a good idea.
I dont think its a good idea.
SerenitySilverstar
In a way, you do get "friendly fire" from ranger spirits. Any ranger spirit you use as an "anti-foe" also does the damage/effect to you
eg: Winnowing, while giving you extra damage against foes, also means the foes get to do the same extra damage back to you.
eg: Winnowing, while giving you extra damage against foes, also means the foes get to do the same extra damage back to you.
Aera Lure
It would be hilarious. For about a minute.
arbiter
be pretty cool if it affected enemies too. Boss could wipe its own mob for you haha.
Shayne Hawke
Friendly fire might be an interesting concept, but I wouldn't want to see it where I could easily have griefers on my team that would try nothing but to kill teammates.
Molock
I guess Fire ele's would quickly become obsolete... not that they already aren't.
Aera Lure
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
Friendly fire might be an interesting concept, but I wouldn't want to see it where I could easily have griefers on my team that would try nothing but to kill teammates.
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Arkantos
I'd uninstall Guild Wars if there was friendly fire. It would be...horrible.
recon54
this was alrdy implemented for a short while on the PvP end (due to a lil bug), didnt turn out so well. Only worked with trappers, so it was mostly just a heavenly time for griefers that would set traps before the match started and would kill their entire team before the match started.
lil history lesson for ya ther.
lil history lesson for ya ther.
PlasticBlue
maybe an idea for a weekend event
*snort*
Imagine running in your own traps though... right laugh!
*snort*
Imagine running in your own traps though... right laugh!
pumpkin pie
i'd use it to kill all the stupid synchers in RA now.
Skye Marin
Friendly fire was in the early, early alpha of the game, and was removed because it was not fun.
Dallcingi
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
Friendly fire might be an interesting concept, but I wouldn't want to see it where I could easily have griefers on my team that would try nothing but to kill teammates.
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glacialphoenix
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
Friendly fire might be an interesting concept, but I wouldn't want to see it where I could easily have griefers on my team that would try nothing but to kill teammates.
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Day Trooper
I could see it now...
{Group finishes UW clear, and player X opens end-chest}
{Player X} Holy Snikes!!! a q9 Eternal Blade!!!
{Rest of team
, before Player X can pick up said E-Blade} Hey, NO FAIR!!! (immediately gang-mob player X 
, and wait 10 mins for E-Blade to become unassigned. That - or all kill each other in the hopes to be the 'last man standing' lol!)
^^ Precisely why team-damage would NOT be a good thing
{Group finishes UW clear, and player X opens end-chest}
{Player X} Holy Snikes!!! a q9 Eternal Blade!!!
{Rest of team
, before Player X can pick up said E-Blade} Hey, NO FAIR!!! (immediately gang-mob player X , and wait 10 mins for E-Blade to become unassigned. That - or all kill each other in the hopes to be the 'last man standing' lol!)^^ Precisely why team-damage would NOT be a good thing
1 up and 2 down
There is already a type of friendly fire, this: [skill]Unyielding Aura[/skill].
M1h4iL
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Originally Posted by Aera Lure
It would be hilarious. For about a minute.
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Issac
Well if someones says their better then u, u can dual right on the spot lol. Then again the last man standing would be an interesting thing to see over a weapon lol.
Avarre
I don't really think it would work.
DarkNecrid
It used to be in the game.
It isn't anymore.
Take a guess why.
It isn't anymore.
Take a guess why.
Lady Lozza
If there were friendly fire it would be bad.
As others have mentioned, players grief enough as it is, can you imagine the "I won't heal you if you don't do as I say" situation taken further?
"I'll d'shot you..."
"I'll MS your butt..."
"I'll <insert threat here>..."
As others have mentioned, players grief enough as it is, can you imagine the "I won't heal you if you don't do as I say" situation taken further?
"I'll d'shot you..."
"I'll MS your butt..."
"I'll <insert threat here>..."
zwei2stein
I think OP mentioned purely AOE effects.
It wouldn't change a thing. Barbs + Orders + Physicals would still rock PvE big time. They would rock harder as foes would do part of killing themselves.
It wouldn't change a thing. Barbs + Orders + Physicals would still rock PvE big time. They would rock harder as foes would do part of killing themselves.
bizlib
In a way you already have friendly fire (i don't anybody said it):
Summit Giant Herder has the giant stomp skill which will also knock down his own allies...That in a way is a friendly fire skill...
(I love it when it hits an enemy necro just as he is trying to animate
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Summit Giant Herder has the giant stomp skill which will also knock down his own allies...That in a way is a friendly fire skill...
(I love it when it hits an enemy necro just as he is trying to animate
hurdlebeast
simple. they start nuking you, you use [skill]Pain Inverter[/skill], you both die
Amnel Ithtirsol
Ok, general teamkill = bad. Agreed.
Magikarp
Mesmer skill:
Textual Deviant-Elite Hex, 10e, 1/4 cast, 25rec. for 1..11 seconds, all spells that target a foe, now target 1 random nearby ally.
game over :P
Textual Deviant-Elite Hex, 10e, 1/4 cast, 25rec. for 1..11 seconds, all spells that target a foe, now target 1 random nearby ally.
game over :P
Arduin
Would minions attack people of their own party when friendly fire is enabled?
EPO Bot
One of the things i like most in GW is it's relative resistance to griefing. Exept for leeching, deliberately not rezzing to get a drop and the now removed forced zoning out of perma pre, it's all very nice.
If you give griefers an obvious tool, they will kill the public side of the game in a couple of days.
Just go back to Diablo2 and smell the ashes.
If you give griefers an obvious tool, they will kill the public side of the game in a couple of days.
Just go back to Diablo2 and smell the ashes.
N1ghtstalker
i think that Pve would somewhat be impossible to do
just imagine
any nuking has to be done very carefully or just not and ele's won't be used anymore
high end pve would be impossible
cuz with ursan you'll KD your teammates with the AoE and weaken them but with a tank and nukers the mission can't be done either cuz the nukers will nuke the tank to hell
same like lobbing a flash nade in a room in CSS
you'll pwn both sides
just imagine
any nuking has to be done very carefully or just not and ele's won't be used anymore
high end pve would be impossible
cuz with ursan you'll KD your teammates with the AoE and weaken them but with a tank and nukers the mission can't be done either cuz the nukers will nuke the tank to hell
same like lobbing a flash nade in a room in CSS
you'll pwn both sides
Toxage
It would have almost no effect on the game. Players rarely group up anymore except to PvP.
N1ghtstalker
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Originally Posted by Toxage
It would have almost no effect on the game. Players rarely group up anymore except to PvP.
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they'll just nuke you without noticing you're dying
Tender Wolf
If there was friendly fire I'd be mad. I hate when Charr and other monsters cast AOE on us enough, if a party member casts one and wipes us all out with his own spell that game would be horribly unbalanced. And I can't count the number of times I've tried to click an enemy and clicked an ally instead...Plus if someone got mad at someone else in a bad PUG they'd just try to kill them off. No way would it work and it shouldn't be implemented.
Aera Lure
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Originally Posted by Toxage
It would have almost no effect on the game. Players rarely group up anymore except to PvP.
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Not that it isnt true.Funny about heroes though. They would indeed merrily AoE you to death. Themselves as well. Pretty much conclusive that friendly fire = bad.
Xunlai Guru Agent
Bad idea .
Morgoth the dark
inferno ouch
or whirling defenses under rspike attack
rt spirits / minnions attacking our own team hahaha
lol it's a planty of choices how to autopwn ourselves.
or whirling defenses under rspike attack
rt spirits / minnions attacking our own team hahaha
lol it's a planty of choices how to autopwn ourselves.
IslandHermet
It would be very funny to see both the monster group and the person group kill eachother with some close range AOE skills.
it would be sooo funny for few mins.
I could kill vekk yippie!!
it would be sooo funny for few mins.
I could kill vekk yippie!!
N1ghtstalker
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Originally Posted by IslandHermet
It would be very funny to see both the monster group and the person group kill eachother with some close range AOE skills.
it would be sooo funny for few mins. I could kill vekk yippie!! |
god i hate that little bastard with his [iron mist]
Ctb
In Oblivion, one good tactic is to keep a melee enemy positioned between you and a ranged/magic enemy because there IS friendly fire of all sorts: melee weapons, magic effects, arrows, etc. Either the ranged enemy will hang back, or they'll try to blow through their buddy anyway to get at you.
In fact, I was in the Arena last night and kept a melee enemy between me and her teammate who was firing arrows, and her teammate helped me kill her by trying to pick me off when I came clear, only to have the teammate run in front of the incoming arrow.
It's a very neat tactical effect and adds a lot to combat. As others have said, however, online gamers are mental midgets and it probably wouldn't work out very well...
Also, in before pics of Gwen butchering entire towns in beta.
In fact, I was in the Arena last night and kept a melee enemy between me and her teammate who was firing arrows, and her teammate helped me kill her by trying to pick me off when I came clear, only to have the teammate run in front of the incoming arrow.
It's a very neat tactical effect and adds a lot to combat. As others have said, however, online gamers are mental midgets and it probably wouldn't work out very well...
Also, in before pics of Gwen butchering entire towns in beta.
bungusmaximus
Friendly fire would be mayhem, there's many cases in which I would happily murder my entire team (think RA for example ), some people just got no manners . I would kill allies in AB for flashing their moose . Plz anet implement it for a week and then take it out again, I wouldn't wanna miss it for the world.
LOL yeah, in PvE there's some folks I would kill too, like alesia, or DANIKA lol.
Not to forget Rurik, no more leeroying for you.
Togo getting stuck? OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
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OR Gadd! =O
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Not to forget Rurik, no more leeroying for you.
Togo getting stuck? OFF WITH HIS HEAD!