Tome Trader

Sigma Onkoron

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Basement

Yes, It would make HM less useful. But the tomes from the trader would be way over priced. Making the price on Tomes not so unstable.
It would also reduce the time for someone waiting to get that 1 elite tome they need to finish a build and waiting for an hour and then finding out you don't have enough cash for it.

(would kill HM but would be worth it.)

obsidian ectoplasm

obsidian ectoplasm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

Meh....Tomes really arnt that hard to buy...

but it can be a pain getting them

Xebedinct

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Soviet Jersey

I don't really think it would kill Hard Mode.

SirNazron

SirNazron

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Under a rock

The Golden Dragoons [Dark]

Booooooo. Completly take out the use of skill trainer and capping for skills and the rarity of getting one in HM.

TheodenKing

TheodenKing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

DoA

Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk)

N/Me

Ooooo.. so impatient... you sound like an Ursan.

You can always find someone selling the tome you need. A little interaction in the human population is healthy.

Anduin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheodenKing
Ooooo.. so impatient... you sound like an Ursan.

You can always find someone selling the tome you need. A little interaction in the human population is healthy.
Yeah, cause hopping back and forth between towns for four hours just to buy what I needed was a productive waste of my time; time that I'd rather spend playing.

This is why we need a plethora of new sellers (inscriptions and weapon mod sellers come to mind).

Some people really do not enjoy spamming "WTB/WTS" for hours on end. It's boring and annoying when you'd rather just play. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

A thread about this exact same thing came up like 2 months ago. It's just not going to happen. Just go play HM, you get tons of tomes.

Sigma Onkoron

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Basement

Its not the fact that I don't like HM I do. And am waiting for the nerf to Ursan. But standing in a place all day just doesn't sound like fun. But that's meh 2 cents. Which doesn't get you much now a days.

Marverick

Marverick

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

R/

I don't see why this could be detrimental. Buying from players will still always be cheaper.

KoKoS

KoKoS

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

aBove Empress Amarox xP

KDT

Mo/E

maybe only for normal tomes... but NOT for elite tomes too..

Sigma Onkoron

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Basement

Btw... Probably should have clarified this would be an elite tome trader not regular. =D

t3dw4rd0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Liars Cheats and Thieves [Liar]

D/

Hmm yea, while we're at it, can we have green traders? And maybe like crystalline sword traders? And hey, while we're at it, let's add ALL the skins to traders, so we always know what the relative price is!!!!111 /sarcasm/

l33t trader=phail
normal trader= less phail, but still phail

_Nihilist_

_Nihilist_

Will Bull's Strike for $!

Join Date: Apr 2006

Isle of the Dead

Not that I don't think that it would be a useful addition to the already plentiful NPC merchants, but I don't think ANet will implement it.

It would be great to be able to go to the nearest town/outpost, and hit up a merch to buy weapon mods/scrips and tomes. It would save time, which is what I believe the OP was indicating when he started the thread.

Yes, there would be a bit of a price drop. I'm not sure how much, but the prices would drop. It is always cheaper to buy from a player than a merchant, and always more profitable to sell to a player than a merchant. But, if you really, REALLY needed that Tome or Elite Tome, wouldn't it be worth paying a few gold extra to snag it right away instead of waiting in LA/KC/Kama trolling the WTS posts and spamming WTB posts.

That being said, I wouldn't look for this to be added to the game. Why? Because other than the sake of convenience, it doesn't really affect the game. The one thing it *could* do would be to stabilize the price of Tomes, but, more than likely, they would be stabilized at a slightly lower rate, and as they say "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"; why would ANet do something that had a greater possibility, no matter how slight, to reduce the player-to-player economy of the game? Answer: they won't.

joshuarodger

joshuarodger

Unbanned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] -- IGN: Swirly

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marverick
I don't see why this could be detrimental. Buying from players will still always be cheaper.
if tomes were cheaper than the skill, it would remove a huge money sink for anet. now if they traded elite tomes and didn't allow normal tomes to go below 1k, that would solve both problems.

not sure how i feel about this.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigma Onkoron
the tomes from the trader would be way over priced.
Why would anyone buy a tome for 1k or more? The entire purpose of a tome is to get skills for cheaper than the trader, and if you have a skill unlocked, it is at every trader of that campaign that the skill is part of for 1k.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Play HM or trade. Tomes were created with the intention in mind that people would trade with each other for them.

The Little Viking

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

innergalactic gargleblasters

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anduin
Yeah, cause hopping back and forth between towns for four hours just to buy what I needed was a productive waste of my time; time that I'd rather spend playing.

This is why we need a plethora of new sellers (inscriptions and weapon mod sellers come to mind).

Some people really do not enjoy spamming "WTB/WTS" for hours on end. It's boring and annoying when you'd rather just play. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

in that amount of time, why not just go cap thee skill and move on?

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anduin
Yeah, cause hopping back and forth between towns for four hours just to buy what I needed was a productive waste of my time; time that I'd rather spend playing.
Never heard of the Party search feature? Believe it or not, people have finally learned how to use it and DO look at it these days! It takes a degree of patience, but it beats district hopping.

leeky baby

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

W/E

Ya do it i cba to stand and sell them and they are filling up my storage lol.

Miss Puddles

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

why wouldn't you just add elite skills to the regular skill trainer?

KoKoS

KoKoS

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

aBove Empress Amarox xP

KDT

Mo/E

teh only good thing about teh tome trader (if it was for normal tomez ofc ) it would be that ppl could actually sell all those sin tomes

R.Shayne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
Tomes were created with the intention in mind that people would trade with each other for them.
Got a link? I am pretty sure the reason behind tomes was learning skills.

Like it or not people you need to wise up. Players want to play the game, not stand in town spamming WTB just so someone can try to scam them with a stupid price. If you like standing in town spamming WTB great more power to you I am pretty sure the majority of us want to play the game.

Look around, the number of people playing the game is going down and the number of people selling low end stuff is going down faster. The only time people want to go to Kamadan is when they have something worth 100k +E they want to sell.

I get PM from people all the time wanting to buy stuff because they are tired of standing in Kamadan spamming to get perfect mods.

illidan009

illidan009

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

Volterra, Italy

A/

NO. Killing HM is NOT worth your lazy ass being able to buy a tome. Dk if this is a poll but...

/notsigned

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Unlike scrolls, Tomes have no price.
They are like special trophies, but they are not change in collectors, they are the reward themselves. So adding traders for them would be like adding traders for anguish Gems or Hero armors.

The only place I can imagine to sell them is the Xunlai Marketplace. But there is no Xunlai Marketplace, so they should add a Xunlai Marketplace.

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

I'd rather have a weapon insignia trader.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

/signed

I wouldnt buy any but id just like a time saving way to get rid of the damn things.

Azza

Azza

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Australia

United Farmers of Europe[FOE]

R/

/not signed

Tomes and Elite tomes are one of the only spoils i get in HM since lockpicks drop in GWEN in NM

just my personal point(no need to flame it)

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

/signed

It would be at least as useful as a weapon mod trader would be. As useful as a rune trader already is!

It would be a straight improvement from the current situation.

It would save me a lot of storage space - I would never need to keep any tomes just for the case I would need one quick. Same as it already is with Runes / Insignia - I never need to keep any in case I need them later - I just sell all to trader and buy when needed.

It's a trading improvement so it would also save a lot of time.

And there's no way this trader would reduce the value of HM drops. Rare material trader reduces ecto prices? No. Trader NPC only helps in trades between players, reflecting the real average market prices with his buy/sell prices.

RoyalPredator

RoyalPredator

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2007

The Corleone Family

A/D

/Notsigned

TOTALY POINTLESS

Delete the Skill trader then...

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Actually I'd just stick them in the scroll trader, he isn't doing much.

For all those whining about "no I want props for doing HM" - this makes selling your excess tomes a billion times easier, meaning you get more money. Same way that ZRank earns PvPers oodles of plat.

As for "trainers are useless" - Elite tomes for most classes are over (sometimes well over) 1k, meaning you pay a premium for the convenience. If regular tomes fall below 1k, I'd say normal skills being cheaper is a good thing, its much whined about in the deflated economy. Additionally, you have to unlock the skills first anyway before the tomes do anything, meaning new players are still going to hit the trainers for most of their needs.

Mad King Corn

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

/notsigned I may be somewhat biased however, as I make a living selling Tomes.

Ghen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2008

would make things to easy
not signed

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

LOL @ posts above.

So trade improvements are bad? Trading should not be too easy? WTF?

Tomes are already there, you can buy them from people, it just takes TIME, just as selling them does.

So it's a straight improvement - save time and save storage space.
It would be a great help for both buyers who want a skill and people who want to sell unwanted tomes fast.

It doesn't affect game difficulty or balance at all!
It doesn't make skill trainer obsolete - skill trainers allow skill Unlocking, tomes require the skills being unlocked.

eagleblade

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2007

D/

takeing out the challenge of the game i dont think so.

/notsigned

Scary

Scary

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2007

Uhmmmm??

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

N/

Again such a stupid idea...........

Anet put in some other drops like the Tomes so people can find other things
than they are used to..
And than some lasy person that dont want to spend time in getting skills
want A Tome Trader...

Why o Why I ask myself are people like that playing games as GW instead of
a unpatient FPS game

/NOTSIGNED

newbie_of_doom

newbie_of_doom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

WTFPRIVACYDUDE

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

W/Mo

yesplz tomes r very important

(im supposed to put like /sign here right?)

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

no
lern2HM
/notsigned

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Look at 3 more awesome posts above! Great arguments there, congrats.

Using the analogy, Rune Trader is bad too?

He takes out the challenge of the game!
A Lasy person that dont want to spend time in getting runes wants a rune trader! Ohno, it must be a serious argument!
and lern2farm runes too, right?

nidy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Long Island, NY

R/Me

No thanks, I'd prefer the price of tomes not dropping to 50g.

If you don't believe me just look at the rune trader.

Tearz1993

Tearz1993

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

Relentless Aggressors [rA]

R/Mo

/notsigned because there's something called a Skill Trainer