New Hero, M.O.X. the Golem

Mister_Smiley

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Well it seams i was wrong, thanks for the update Regina.

draxynnic

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by samifly
Looks like something from tron or that one assassin armor... not that thats a bad thing
Which suddenly struck me with a crazy thought...

Male Assassin dance for MOX?

Caelus The Fallen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Glasgow

Voice of the Darkness

E/Mo

A robot doing The Robot? That's just crazy talk!

Scarlett Romanov

Scarlett Romanov

Guest

Join Date: Jul 2005

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I haven't had time to sift through a billion pages, but has there any been any official word on why he's PvE only?

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarlett Romanov
I haven't had time to sift through a billion pages, but has there any been any official word on why he's PvE only?
Scarlett, not to be rude or anything...

but just go read the very first post and you'll see why.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarlett Romanov
I haven't had time to sift through a billion pages, but has there any been any official word on why he's PvE only?
Yes the first post can help a ton when trying to understand. Another frustrating problem would be the ability to run 3 dervish heros in hero battles -_-. 3 shadow meld dervs would be uba ghey.

GoodApollo1234

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ohio

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Why a dervish? Aren't derv heroes kinda.... useless? I can't even remember the last time I willingly used Melonni or Kahmu...

Please, correct me if I'm wrong. I really hope I am.

the Puppeteer

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoodApollo1234
Why a dervish?
Well for the triple derv hero team to swap the sabway necros ...

Lyynyyrd

Lyynyyrd

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2008

Aussie Trolling Crew - Spah!

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoodApollo1234
Why a dervish? Aren't derv heroes kinda.... useless? I can't even remember the last time I willingly used Melonni or Kahmu...

Please, correct me if I'm wrong. I really hope I am.
Only known PvE use for Dervish heroes are D/N Orders Dervishes.

That's the only one.

Grammar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra
I can't talk specifics, but it won't be difficult to obtain him.
To me, "Won't be difficult to obtain him" doesn't necessarily sound like "you automatically get him".

Maybe you get him via a new quest of some sort.


Also, /signed for 7 heroes.

Encriptic Spear

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

No One Is [home]

W/

Hope their will be a armor upgrade so I can add it to my HOM…

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyynyyrd
Only known PvE use for Dervish heroes are D/N Orders Dervishes.

That's the only one.
Triple Balth Dervs for clearing out Shards of Orr and other undead hotspots?

Hummm, unless Orders stacks with holy damage (which I doubt), in which case you might want to add in 1 Arcane Orders Derv in there.

Mister_Smiley

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Hey Regian are we going to be able to add him to the hall?

Also hopefully the quest is fun, cause GW is really a need of that.


Edit: deleted what was here

GoodApollo1234

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ohio

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyynyyrd
Only known PvE use for Dervish heroes are D/N Orders Dervishes.

That's the only one.
Yeah, I tried that build out. I wouldn't go as far to say it was bad, but there was really nothing special about it. And the conjure+barrage build I usually run makes it pointless, for me at least. If only it didn't require physical damage, or if minions counted as party-members, it might be able to compete with your basic Sabway team.

Triple derv team to replace Sabway? Never heard of it.

Didn't see that ad up there comin XD

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

No idea why he's called MOX after the M:tG moxen if he isnt something special. A profession changer would have made sense, both for the name and the fact that he is a golem. Then, add to the fact that he's a dervish and I'm not even motivated to go get him.

That said, thanks at least for some sort of new content, minor as it is.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
....and if you don't like yellow... MAYBE there will be armor reminants for him too (doubt it, "new clothing" for a robot doesn't make much sense)
"New gear" does, though. And if you *still* don't like it, Texmod awaaaaay.

He does look pretty pimp, though. I just wish there was an option to include witty hero/hench remarks as party dialog. I'm usually too preoccupied with the fight to notice : (

Elusive of SoLD

Elusive of SoLD

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

England

SoLD

Mo/Me

I hope there is something more here than a useless Derv hero here.. I never used Kahmu or Melonni, dunno if MOX (lol) will be any different, I hope so.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vitality_Transfer
plox

Shadow_7

Shadow_7

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Raiders of Gilead

W/R

Cool we getting a new hero too bad is a dervish

I hope there is a cross campaign quest to get it, like the black moa.

Heloniar

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

A New Day Dawns [HOPE]

W/P

Dervway would be good, big physical AOE damage* drools*

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heloniar
Dervway would be good, big physical AOE damage* drools*
Yeah especially against single targets like endbosses and enemies that use blinding....oh wait nvm....

I'll get it to add to the HoM and then forget about it...Wait, does it get an armour upgrade?

Heloniar

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

A New Day Dawns [HOPE]

W/P

Melandru's Avatar ftw?

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

2 [wounding strike] Dervs + 1 Orders Derv FTW.

Society

Society

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

Rt/N

New (and original !) hero = good. New PvE-only content (as source of further PvE\PvP diversion) = bad. Tough choice...

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Quote:
New (and original !) hero = good.
New and useless hero = extremely bad. New, original and worth the trouble of getting hero = very good.

Quote:
2 WS Dervs + 1 Orders Derv FTW.
If just Melee AI wasn't broken to death.

Society

Society

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

Rt/N

Quote:
New and useless hero = extremely bad
It's not that case, IMHO.

Sweet Mystery

Sweet Mystery

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Shadow Hunters Of Light [SHOL]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
Yeah but you see us players being able to equip such skills....? Would be cool if we could tho !

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

W/Mo

Well aside from the fact that a 3rd Dervish hero is completely useless to me, I wonder really if anybody was waiting for a hero team with 3 dervishes?

And then there is the slight issue of there being a luxon hero but no kurzick hero. One would've thought it, well let's say fair and considerate, to kurzick players that they would've taken the opportunity to bring out a kurzick hero instead of a golem.

So one could ask, is Anet really that inconsiderate or are they too thick to see that it would've been nice of them to give the kurzick players a hero too?

Apollo Smile

Apollo Smile

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

[LORE]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn
Well aside from the fact that a 3rd Dervish hero is completely useless to me, I wonder really if anybody was waiting for a hero team with 3 dervishes?

And then there is the slight issue of there being a luxon hero but no kurzick hero. One would've thought it, well let's say fair and considerate, to kurzick players that they would've taken the opportunity to bring out a kurzick hero instead of a golem.

So one could ask, is Anet really that inconsiderate or are they too thick to see that it would've been nice of them to give the kurzick players a hero too?
As a Kurzick... Who cares?

Free Runner

Free Runner

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn
So one could ask, is Anet really that inconsiderate or are they too thick to see that it would've been nice of them to give the kurzick players a hero too?
Both faction sides are retarded so why should it matter what side a hero, whos going to be following you around all the time, is on. Between a Gloomy Human and a Golem, the Golem wins.

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apollo Smile
As a Kurzick... Who cares?
Uhmm, obviously I do and it was me giving my opinion. I do not assume to speak for everybody but then I guess you do.
We have 25 heroes already of which we can use 3 at a time. I say that because it makes you wonder why they thought people wanted another hero.
We already have 2 dervish heroes, so I asked the question who wanted a 3rd dervish cause I really don't know anybody who does or why.
Lastly, coming back to the question of what reason there possibly could be for bringing out yet another hero, is perhaps rectifying a small injustice. Obviously not every kurzick player is gonna care about a hero, just like not everybody wants this hero.

I am a rpg player for many years now and I suppose I can see that those who don't really have the tendency to delve into characters, settings and storylines may see it as pointless to care about something like this, but to me it does matter. My opinion, my point of view, nothing more.

I agree that the two factions have been poorly worked out but I always liked the kurzick feel and armours and to have one or more heroes that actually can represent that would be cool to me. Whether it is by having actual kurzick heroes or have kurzick (and luxon) armour skins is something that I could be happy with.
Hell , I would be happy if my derv and para were able to get kurzick armour, but that's another thread.

But to me the golem sucks as it adds nothing useful to the game, specifically because it is a derv. I'll get it to add to my HoM and then never use it.

I can't put it any clearer than that.

Officer Dick

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/N

actually, if i recall correctly, xandra WAS a luxon, as she is, at the time you get her on your team, exiled. So she shouldnt be counted as a great example of a luxon on your team... Dont think theres a reason to be so angry theres a luxon hero and not a kurzick one.
Also, if a kurzick hero were to exist (and quite frankly, a mesmer kurzick hero would seem a nice match, and would make all professions have 3 heros), they would have to explain how a kurzick and a luxon can fight side by side, since xandra already is on the team.
Then again, that wouldnt be so hard, considering the pyre/gwen thing...

EDIT: all core professions i mean

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

I've been a Kurzick for 2 years already. I don't want another useless hero. Unless you make him/her a Paragon.

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Officer Dick
actually, if i recall correctly, xandra WAS a luxon, as she is, at the time you get her on your team, exiled. So she shouldnt be counted as a great example of a luxon on your team... Dont think theres a reason to be so angry theres a luxon hero and not a kurzick one.
Also, if a kurzick hero were to exist (and quite frankly, a mesmer kurzick hero would seem a nice match, and would make all professions have 3 heros), they would have to explain how a kurzick and a luxon can fight side by side, since xandra already is on the team.
Then again, that wouldnt be so hard, considering the pyre/gwen thing...

EDIT: all core professions i mean
Well, since players can be luxon and kurzick at the same time (as in doing AB and quest on both sides and get both allegiance titles) I am sure that they can find a way to fit it in. But all in all I think I would be happy with armour skins for heroes from both kurzick and luxon area's. Even though Anet completely messed up the faction thing in game terms I was always more taken with the kurzick side. Just to give my hero team that style would be cool to me.

But don't worry about luxons and kurzicks working together...Anet already opened that door....wide open.

Vehemence

Vehemence

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

Perth

[LOD]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
I've been a Kurzick for 2 years already. I don't want another useless hero. Unless you make him/her a Paragon.
Another Paragon Hero would be superb. But then, 1 player paragon + 3 hero paragon will of course make the PvE much more easier.

Kwith

Kwith

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

Gaming Continuum

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I'm sure someone has made this comment already but I didn't feel like searching through pages and pages of replies to find it.

I really don't see why they keep adding heros when we can only have 3 in our party anyway. Yes it gives us more variety, but unless they plan to give us the ability to go all hero teams, I really don't see why they are adding more heros to the game.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwith
I'm sure someone has made this comment already but I didn't feel like searching through pages and pages of replies to find it.

I really don't see why they keep adding heros when we can only have 3 in our party anyway. Yes it gives us more variety, but unless they plan to give us the ability to go all hero teams, I really don't see why they are adding more heros to the game.
Easy. 3 slots: 3 dervishes.
Now 2 dervish players can go in an all Dervish team.

Now the only ones left are paragons, assassins and ritualists.

A full assassin party must be a lot of fun.

Shadow_7

Shadow_7

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Raiders of Gilead

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwith
I'm sure someone has made this comment already but I didn't feel like searching through pages and pages of replies to find it.

I really don't see why they keep adding heros when we can only have 3 in our party anyway. Yes it gives us more variety, but unless they plan to give us the ability to go all hero teams, I really don't see why they are adding more heros to the game.
Very true.

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fgarvin

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Awesome News:

Just heard that if you have M.O.X. and Vekk in the same party, Vekk rides on his shoulder...screaming battle cries. Still no word on implementing this system for Zhed.

Kwith

Kwith

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Canada

Gaming Continuum

W/

where did you hear that from fgarvin?

Got a link to a source?