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Metatail

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

14 Aug 2008 at 20:25 - 1

Update - 14 August 2008
Guild Battles

*Guild Lords no longer walk out at 20 minutes.
*The Victory or Death message will no longer display at 18 minutes.
*Gates barring entry to guild halls will now open when the match starts. Gate locks have been removed from these gates.
*Guild Thieves have been removed.
*Bodyguard: the Bodyguard will now shoot fireballs from his staff instead of arrows.

Elementalist
*Glimmering Mark: this skill no longer ignores armor.

http://eu.guildwars.com/support/arti...4_august_2008/

Uh the update didn't happen yet but who cares...discuss!
Next month's update - GvG takes place on RA arenas, removed all the npc's!

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

14 Aug 2008 at 20:27 - 2

FIRST

I really like this. It makes NPCs matter a bit more again.

Martin Kerstein

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

14 Aug 2008 at 20:27 - 3

There was a hickup in the time/space continuum, update will be live shortly

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

14 Aug 2008 at 20:28 - 4

Ummm.....what? =o

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

14 Aug 2008 at 20:30 - 5

boo, at least they are trying, Martin do we really have to wait 2 weeks, for the next VOD change?... This change is really just going to force the next extreme, split builds working off all NPCs pre VOD, then just keeping the poor suckers team who has no npcs left in their base with the Lord, one snare to keep you from running a flag and it's gg. Ohwell at least 8v8 isn't forced upon anymore.

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

14 Aug 2008 at 20:30 - 6

is it just me, or is the euro guildwars website formatted better...?

How do you know what's going to be going into the update next month?

Tatile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

N/Me

14 Aug 2008 at 20:30 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein

There was a hickup in the time/space continuum, update will be live shortly

Fix your flux capacitor, that may be the problem. Here's a spanner.

What a short, nice little update ^.^

Grand Theft Ecto

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

Mo/

14 Aug 2008 at 20:31 - 8

What happens in single eliminations if the match draws at the stand at 28min?

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

14 Aug 2008 at 20:34 - 9

wow gvg's getting all...sped up?

drago34

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

California

Looking for good PvE guild ...

A/

14 Aug 2008 at 20:34 - 10

isn't the Euro one using the old NA layout one?

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

14 Aug 2008 at 20:43 - 11

What's the point of removing important tactical elements like locked gates and guild thieves? A gate is no longer a gate, a base is no longer a base.

. . .

sibelang

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Nottofar Island

Sekai o Oni Moriageru Tame no Suzumiya Haruhi no Dan [SOS-dan]

14 Aug 2008 at 20:44 - 12

ZOMG, another update?! why anet seems concentrating the pvp change only in GvG?
>>
a small change on "Make Haste!" or another the most used skill in HA/TA would be nice...

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

14 Aug 2008 at 20:45 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by aapo

What's the point of removing important tactical elements like locked gates and guild thieves?

One extreme to the other, hitting the nail hard usually ends up in a bent nail, hitting it ever so semi-hard yet consistent yields straightness.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

14 Aug 2008 at 20:49 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ec]-[oMaN

One extreme to the other, hitting the nail hard usually ends up in a bent nail, hitting it ever so semi-hard yet consistent yields straightness.

Thats only cause they never hit the nail straight on the head.

Orfas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

behind you!

Archangels Fury [AF]

W/

14 Aug 2008 at 20:50 - 15

why they remove gate locks lol

rada

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

14 Aug 2008 at 20:50 - 16

GvG totally killed, GvG=HA. People, get prepared for more Phoenix!!!!1!!11
Edit:
Petition. Change GvG name to HA 2.

/signed

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

14 Aug 2008 at 20:51 - 17

I had no idea that site was different. I always visit guildwars.com and also players.guildwars.com isn't working. The EU one has a nicer layout for game updates page.
Anyway on topic of the update its nice that there changing parts of the game quite a bit even though i don't GVG.
also flux capaciters don't get fixed by spanners

Trylo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Here] | CKOD

E/R

14 Aug 2008 at 20:52 - 18

wait

no more theives...?

AT ALL?

i dont get it. isnt the base tactics what makes a gvg a gvg, and not HA?

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

14 Aug 2008 at 20:53 - 19

Glimmering Mark no longer ignores armor. At 16 Air the skill did 26 damage per second, ignoring armor. While I did not see much use of it while it ignored armor (because who is going to cast it and wait patiently while it has its full effects), it seems even more worthless now.

sibelang

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Nottofar Island

Sekai o Oni Moriageru Tame no Suzumiya Haruhi no Dan [SOS-dan]

14 Aug 2008 at 20:53 - 20

btw

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metatail

Update - 14 August 2008
Next month's update - GvG takes place on RA arenas, removed all the npc's!

if this happen .... pls update the game name!
yes i repeat... UPDATE THE GAME NAME! or better CHANGE THE GAME NAME into
"TEAM/RANDOM ARENA WARS!!!"

or whatever!

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

14 Aug 2008 at 20:54 - 21

And Glimmering Mark is back to craptastic. Not worth using if it's ~16 dmg to monks and 10 to warriors... Conjure Phantasm would be better lol.

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

14 Aug 2008 at 21:00 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

And Glimmering Mark is back to craptastic. Not worth using if it's ~16 dmg to monks and 10 to warriors... Conjure Phantasm would be better lol.

Well that's what you get for trying to bypass basic game design.

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

14 Aug 2008 at 21:05 - 23

Meh. They're just trying to make it so GvG isn't completely NPC based. How about getting some EotN guild halls in the next update. With more cape stuff...tired of the boring ones we have now.

??iljo

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

14 Aug 2008 at 21:08 - 24

omfg lagfest....slideshows mega shadowstepping...vgg

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

14 Aug 2008 at 21:09 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metatail

Next month's update - GvG takes place on RA arenas, removed all the npc's!

- Nothing's going to surprise me anymore. They're made so many revamps and reverts. Will this change make GvG better or not? Will it make GvG worse? If this was statistics, we should have 95% confidence that the change will be for the better. Some guilds like 8v8 matches, some guilds like splitting. So what? If you're handling a game played by thousands of players, you're not supposed to act like weather vane changing from one extreme to another on a whim.

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

14 Aug 2008 at 21:10 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metatail

*Bodyguard: the Bodyguard will now shoot fireballs from his staff instead of arrows.

[Fireball]?

Anyways, looks like Glimmering Mark needs a new buff.

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

14 Aug 2008 at 21:12 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

[Fireball]?

Anyways, looks like Glimmering Mark needs a new buff.

Give it 25% armor penetration?
Iunno

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

14 Aug 2008 at 21:15 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

[Fireball]?

Anyways, looks like Glimmering Mark needs a new buff.

WTB staff that shoots arrows....!!!!!!!!

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

14 Aug 2008 at 21:16 - 29

Why the hell was glimmering mark nerfed? I really cannot see how an elite that does 24 dps @ 14 air needed a nerf.

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

14 Aug 2008 at 21:19 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

Why the hell was glimmering mark nerfed? I really cannot see how an elite that does 24 dps @ 14 air needed a nerf.

It was super powered shit in AB or something like that. I'm guessing, because there's no better explanation.

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

14 Aug 2008 at 21:23 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

It was super powered shit in AB or something like that. I'm guessing, because there's no better explanation.

I thought only real PvP could influence a decision like that.

cgruber

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Tryst of Vengenance [ToV]

Mo/Me

14 Aug 2008 at 21:24 - 32

This update is epic fail. Zerg rush ftw.

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

14 Aug 2008 at 21:24 - 33

Hmm. Nice and all.

I see no mention of fixing the h/h AI they broke. >_>

eximiis

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

14 Aug 2008 at 21:26 - 34

glimmering mark + 10 hp degen is like 43 hp a sec.

pretty much why they did the change to glimmering mark

Burton2000

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

A cardboard box in England

Men Of Substance [YMCA]

Mo/Me

14 Aug 2008 at 21:28 - 35

I like the update tbh. Splitting means something now and you can't run full 8v8 HA builds and expect to win(except on burning obviously). They removed gates and thiefs to help that as on thief maps you could obviously just kill thief and force your playstyle on the split.

Lest121

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

Army of Darkness

A/Mo

14 Aug 2008 at 21:28 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by eximiis

glimmering mark + 10 hp degen is like 43 hp a sec.

pretty much why they did the change to glimmering mark

I was getting hit hard by Glimmer thank god it was Changed...............skill pissed me off.

Scarlett Romanov

Guest

Join Date: Jul 2005

Me/

14 Aug 2008 at 21:31 - 37

I was reallly hoping they'd fix hero/hench ai so that they don't act like rambo after being rezzed. *sigh* I suppose we'll have to wait a few months for that..

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

14 Aug 2008 at 21:45 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgruber

This update is epic fail. Zerg rush ftw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRDvS-mZWbc

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

14 Aug 2008 at 21:47 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burton2000

I like the update tbh. Splitting means something now and you can't run full 8v8 HA builds and expect to win(except on burning obviously). They removed gates and thiefs to help that as on thief maps you could obviously just kill thief and force your playstyle on the split.

Too bad on maps like druid you still have to repair the seed.

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

14 Aug 2008 at 21:52 - 40

I'm a little surprised there is nothing here for unyielding aura. If you don't mind dying once your hero can pretty much drag you around almost any PvE area in complete security. That seems like a little bit of an exploit to me.