Open up a few areas for Cartographers
Hailey Anne
Like the Monastery Overlook.
Jade Quarry is a big one.
I know theres alot more places but these are just the ones that pop up.
This includes other campaigns, is NOT limited to just the ones I stated.
These 2 just rely too much on other people interaction or waiting for a festival that doesnt happen that often.
And yes I know these are not NEEDED but they DO count and are helpful.
I am also NOT asking for free % for cart we would still have to map these places.
Jade Quarry is a big one.
I know theres alot more places but these are just the ones that pop up.
This includes other campaigns, is NOT limited to just the ones I stated.
These 2 just rely too much on other people interaction or waiting for a festival that doesnt happen that often.
And yes I know these are not NEEDED but they DO count and are helpful.
I am also NOT asking for free % for cart we would still have to map these places.
N1ghtstalker
overlook doesn't count and charting town area's can be done without going in there
the only thing they should do is make sure you can get into aspenwood/jade quarry
which i have spent 3 hours on waiting just to get enough people to map jade quarry
for the rest it's not needed /notsigned
the only thing they should do is make sure you can get into aspenwood/jade quarry
which i have spent 3 hours on waiting just to get enough people to map jade quarry
for the rest it's not needed /notsigned
Ghostcell
you don't need every little part mapped, /notsigned
you just have to be patient and for aspenwood/jade quarry just get a bunch of guildies or alliance members to join it.
you just have to be patient and for aspenwood/jade quarry just get a bunch of guildies or alliance members to join it.
MagmaRed
I would have been more willing to /sign if you gave good reason for NEEDING this, and for including more than just Cantha. As noted, you do not need every area mapped to get 100%, but getting some of those areas makes it easier.
Since there is no reason, this was an easy /unsigned.
Since there is no reason, this was an easy /unsigned.
Skyy High
You don't need those areas.
smoochie kinz
And most of the Monastery you can map during Canthan Festival and whatnot. Though the Jade Quarry/Aspenwood is a pain. Thats time trying to get it but its completely doable!
Parson Brown
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Originally Posted by smoochie kinz
And most of the Monastery you can map during Canthan Festival and whatnot. Though the Jade Quarry/Aspenwood is a pain. Thats time trying to get it but its completely doable!
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Don Doggy
/notsigned
No need to open overlook title can be achieved without it. Getting enough people to get into JQ is hard though.
No need to open overlook title can be achieved without it. Getting enough people to get into JQ is hard though.
zwei2stein
Overlook is easily accessible during festivals.
"Restricted" areas usually unfong nothing. And if you want them badly, you can always hunt down alliance that owns that spot down and buy membership for few hours.
If you want to make something accessible, make starting istan areas because there is no way foreginer can reach that sizeable part of map. But they are not needed eaither.
"Restricted" areas usually unfong nothing. And if you want them badly, you can always hunt down alliance that owns that spot down and buy membership for few hours.
If you want to make something accessible, make starting istan areas because there is no way foreginer can reach that sizeable part of map. But they are not needed eaither.
Widowmaker
I just didn't bother with the Jade Quarry so it isn't essential that you do. But if you do want it I would imagine you're going to have to organise two teams.
Kook~NBK~
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
overlook doesn't count and charting town area's can be done without going in there
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Hailey Anne
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Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
I know theres alot more places but these are just the ones that pop up.
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Originally Posted by MagmaRed
I would have been more willing to /sign if you gave good reason for NEEDING this, and for including more than just Cantha. As noted, you do not need every area mapped to get 100%, but getting some of those areas makes it easier.
Since there is no reason, this was an easy /unsigned. |
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Originally Posted by MagmaRed
As noted, you do not need every area mapped to get 100%, but getting some of those areas makes it easier.
Since there is no reason, this was an easy /unsigned. |
For the towns theres no need for gatekeepes. The npcs can just not talk to you unless you own town.
How does doing this affect any of you in any way.
Answer it doesnt.
Just makes it to where we wont have to wait for festivals or wait for alliance of towns.
And mapping this section DOES count it may not be needed but for cartographer it is very helpful.
Shayne Hawke
Overlook is open during festivals, and if you really want to get the area in those town areas, find a guild in the proper alliance and go for it.
/notsigned
/notsigned
Tyla
/Notsigned.
The title is easy enough to get. If you want help, use Texmod or get a mate with 100% to compare.
The title is easy enough to get. If you want help, use Texmod or get a mate with 100% to compare.
Hailey Anne
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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
Overlook is open during festivals, and if you really want to get the area in those town areas, find a guild in the proper alliance and go for it.
/notsigned |
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Originally Posted by Tyla
/Notsigned.
The title is easy enough to get. If you want help, use Texmod or get a mate with 100% to compare. |
Seriously how does this hurt anyone? It doesnt. It wont make the game any harder/easier for you. you and Magma I notice are people that like to go to every suggestion and unsign everything because it wont benefit you.
unkleanone
I dont' see that this could hurt anything in anyway. Though i would prefer to keep other alliances out of my restricted section. We work hard to own towns I say no to that but the others. why not.
/signed.
/signed.
TheodenKing
/signed.
Won't affect me, won't affect the economy, won't affect any of you.
zzzzzzzz...
Won't affect me, won't affect the economy, won't affect any of you.
zzzzzzzz...
Hailey Anne
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Originally Posted by unkleanone
I dont' see that this could hurt anything in anyway. Though i would prefer to keep other alliances out of my restricted section. We work hard to own towns I say no to that but the others. why not.
/signed. |
MithranArkanere
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
overlook doesn't count and charting town area's can be done without going in there
the only thing they should do is make sure you can get into aspenwood/jade quarry which i have spent 3 hours on waiting just to get enough people to map jade quarry for the rest it's not needed /notsigned |
Monastery Overlook and Island of Shehkah DO count.
Monastery can be mapped when Shing Jea is expanded with that map, though.
Island of Shehkah is the only one left, then.
And for the rest, ALL PvP areas should have a 'visit' mode, like Guild Halls have.
The Host in the PvP outpost should have an option to get to the explorable version of that area.
Age
I would like to see more Rin openned up and be it town outpost as it is important city in Ascalon.Dascir would be nice but I would like Rin.
Widowmaker
I didn't do either the Jade Quarry or the overlook and my proph born warrior has Legendary Cartographer so you don't need either of them for the Cantha title.
There is around 103% available to map.
I have no problem with it either way, just saying you certainly don't need them.
If I recall correctly there is only one town that you can't pretty much fully map from the outside anyway, and you can use a shadowstep to get inside there if you're stuck.
There is around 103% available to map.
I have no problem with it either way, just saying you certainly don't need them.
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Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
well ya thats why im saying the npcs that are in the restricted areas still cant be used by anyone other than the town owners. But the gates themselves open.
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Junzi
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
The only places that do not count are pre-Searing, underground areas and 'out of space' areas like The Mist or Glint's sand lair.
Monastery Overlook and Island of Shehkah DO count. Monastery can be mapped when Shing Jea is expanded with that map, though. Island of Shehkah is the only one left, then. And for the rest, ALL PvP areas should have a 'visit' mode, like Guild Halls have. The Host in the PvP outpost should have an option to get to the explorable version of that area. |
Hailey Anne
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Originally Posted by Widowmaker
If I recall correctly there is only one town that you can't pretty much fully map from the outside anyway, and you can use a shadowstep to get inside there if you're stuck. |
Widowmaker
Eredon Terrace is the place I'm thinking of.
HawkofStorms
Yes, with Eredon Terrace, you can easily get the last spots.
Honestly, this is just a stupid suggestion, since MANY, MANY, MANY people have been able to get cartographer before w/o all those bonus areas.
Honestly, this is just a stupid suggestion, since MANY, MANY, MANY people have been able to get cartographer before w/o all those bonus areas.
Jenn
/not signed.
Many people have gotten these titles just fine. I don't see why you want to make an already mind-numbing simple task easier.
Many people have gotten these titles just fine. I don't see why you want to make an already mind-numbing simple task easier.
Widowmaker
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Originally Posted by Illfated Fat
mind-numbing simple task easier.
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Hailey Anne
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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Yes, with Eredon Terrace, you can easily get the last spots.
Honestly, this is just a stupid suggestion, since MANY, MANY, MANY people have been able to get cartographer before w/o all those bonus areas. |
You know a simple signed notsigned would do the trick.
It doesnt matter how many people have done this. the game is 3 years old almost time for people to move on to GW2. Would make sense to make a few things a little easier to obtain before GW2.
mazey vorstagg
I got my carto with no jade quarry, aspenwood often has players anyway. It wasn't bad
upier
I'll /sign it.
I LOVE the Overlook and it would be superb to take my guys there for photo opportunities.
Carto what ... ?
I LOVE the Overlook and it would be superb to take my guys there for photo opportunities.
Carto what ... ?
Productivity
Not signed. It's perfectly doable to get GMC without opening out these areas and they're locked for a reason.
Jenn
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Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
oh hey another person I see troll threads just to say how stupid a suggestion is.
You know a simple signed notsigned would do the trick. It doesnt matter how many people have done this. the game is 3 years old almost time for people to move on to GW2. Would make since to make a few things a little easier to obtain before GW2. |
I wouldn't normally ever do this, but you approach things with such hostility in almost everything you say - and I don't even know if you realize that you do it. Here's a few reminders from other things you've said to point out hypocrisy....
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NO MORE damn titles.
They are pointlss serve no purpose. none take any skill what so ever to get. It only shows you paid alot for it or spen too much time doing it either way pointless |
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Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
End game greens suck /notsigned
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NO. Survivor is meant to be a challange(although with hfff I know its not)
Reseting survivor would just be stupid. Its another useless title. |
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Like I said before, the title is already easy to get. If anything, you pose a huge contradiction by wanting this to be easier. With the survivor title, there is a guaranteed way to screw up, and lots of people had already gotten "screwed" by making their main character prior to the existance of the Survivor title. Shouldn't you show them folk some compassion?
edit: This isn't a personal attack. This is me trying to say a couple things: 1) Pick one side or the other - do you want titles to be easy or not? At the end of the day, all they do is go in our HoM 2) Don't dish what you can't take - a little compassion goes a long way.
Cheers.
Red Sand
If there are sufficient areas to meet the requirements of all of the cartographer titles without the restricted areas, why do we need to allow access to restricted areas? Is it just to avoid having to explore truly difficult PvE areas* and still get the title?
*You know the ones: They require a group of thinking people and not just henchies and heroes to explore fully.
So what you're saying is a RP character should be able to explore a PvP battlefield without the danger of actually having to engage in PvP to explore it?
Mithran, I always like to read what you write, but as a PvX player, I don't agree with that at all.
/notsigned
*You know the ones: They require a group of thinking people and not just henchies and heroes to explore fully.
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
And for the rest, ALL PvP areas should have a 'visit' mode, like Guild Halls have.
The Host in the PvP outpost should have an option to get to the explorable version of that area. |
Mithran, I always like to read what you write, but as a PvX player, I don't agree with that at all.
/notsigned
crazybanshee
Not necessary. Why should they go through the extra trouble of doing this instead of more important things, when it's simple to do without opening any other areas. I got legendary cartographer with no textmod of any kind, just wall-walking. I had none of the old pvp arenas, and none of the new ones cause I didn't think to do it till I was level 20. Still I got 100% on every continent without even wall-walking every single area. Heck, in cantha I only wall-walked in 1 area because I ran through fa and jq, and got the monastery during a boardwalk weekend, giving me 100% very easily.
MithranArkanere
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Originally Posted by Red Sand
Mithran, I always like to read what you write, but as a PvX player, I don't agree with that at all.
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Arenas are not always used to fight. They are usually cleaned and such.
You can visit an stadium where you are not a player and when there is no match going on.
This is exactly the same.
I can't understand how can anyone be against something that harms no one.
When you are inside the fight, there's no time to check how the terrain is and things like those.
A way to visit those areas out of battle is wise. Like the explorable versions of Mission areas in Factions and Nightfall.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
Seriously how does this hurt anyone? It doesnt. It wont make the game any harder/easier for you. you and Magma I notice are people that like to go to every suggestion and unsign everything because it wont benefit you.
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As for "not affecting me", I suppose that's because I've only got a little to explore in Tyria for Legendary Cartographer? No. This title is easy enough as it is.
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Originally Posted by Mithran
Arenas are not always used to fight. They are usually cleaned and such.
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Oh, and loldetectiveillfated.
HawkofStorms
I'm not a troll, I just like to point out logically fallicies that prevent suggestions from being added (ie, if somebody makes a suggestion that would allow for an exploitation of game mechanics/harm the economy/are detremental to gameplay that the OP didn't forsee, I point that out).
You, however just insulted me and was trying to stir up a hostile response. Thanks for coming to my defense Illfated Fat.
You, however just insulted me and was trying to stir up a hostile response. Thanks for coming to my defense Illfated Fat.
Lycan Nibbler
/notsigned
Like other titles, to max it takes grind. With things like texmod these days, its much easier these days anyway.
Like other titles, to max it takes grind. With things like texmod these days, its much easier these days anyway.
MithranArkanere
There are many arenas that do not count for any Carthographer title.
And the % that the arenas and other PvP areas that do count is really small.
The benefit of being able to roleplay and get to know those areas outside battles is way greater than any downside it would bring... and, well, that's not hard, since there is NO downside.
And the % that the arenas and other PvP areas that do count is really small.
The benefit of being able to roleplay and get to know those areas outside battles is way greater than any downside it would bring... and, well, that's not hard, since there is NO downside.
Tyla
There's no downside to making an already easy title easier either. Oh, wait...