Open up a few areas for Cartographers

Smurf Minions

Smurf Minions

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Somewhere you can't see

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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I'm a lazy ass, please give me +50% to my carthographer title, kthxbai

/unsigned, do something for it....

Thizzle

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2008

You should start with legendary cartographer.

Dr.Jones

Dr.Jones

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2008

though i have already gotten all 3 titles i did find it annoying that even after i had beaten the game i couldn't get past some gates, i think once you get past an area all gates that were blocking you should become open.

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sand
So what you're saying is a RP character should be able to explore a PvP battlefield without the danger of actually having to engage in PvP to explore it?
I would much rather have PvP area open with no danger than have people go into battle just to map then leave or just leech. it happens all the time.

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
I'm not a troll, I just like to point out logically fallicies that prevent suggestions from being added (ie, if somebody makes a suggestion that would allow for an exploitation of game mechanics/harm the economy/are detremental to gameplay that the OP didn't forsee, I point that out).

You, however just insulted me and was trying to stir up a hostile response. Thanks for coming to my defense Illfated Fat.
First of all this wouldnt do anything to hurt the game in any way.
People would sitll have to map the areas this would just allow us to NOT have to depends on others to do it.
Jade Quarry for example dead zone so you have to gather people just to map it which can take a LONG time to do. This would just save a lttle time they would STILL have to map it. So again not hurting anything at all.

Second Im not looking for hostile reponses Im looking for /signed /notsigned which is why theres a poll for those 2.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
There's no downside to making an already easy title easier either. Oh, wait...
Its not making anything easier its just saving a little time since you wont have to depend on others.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne


Jade Quarry for example dead zone so you have to gather people just to map it which can take a LONG time to do. This would just save a lttle time they would STILL have to map it. So again not hurting anything at all.
But that's not what the suggestion IS. Your OP only mentions the Monestary Outpost and "stuff like that," which doesn't sound like PvP areas, since those are open to everybody.
That's why you are getting such wierd responses to this, because the openning post wasn't that precise, and thus people are arguing all sorts of different things on this thread.

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
But that's not what the suggestion IS. Your OP only mentions the Monestary Outpost and "stuff like that," which doesn't sound like PvP areas, since those are open to everybody.
That's why you are getting such wierd responses to this, because the openning post wasn't that precise, and thus people are arguing all sorts of different things on this thread.
Which means that you along with others are not reading everything only what you want. here Ill quote a part for you to help you with this.
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Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
I know theres alot more places but these are just the ones that pop up.
This includes areas such as Jade Quarry and is not just limited to Cantha.
Don't just read parts you want before responding.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne

This includes areas such as Jade Quarry and is not just limited to Cantha.
Don't just read parts you want before responding.
Yes I did. The phrase "oh and any other place I forgot" doesn't mean we can read you mind and know what you are talking about.

Stop trolling. I'm not posting any more responses on this thread. If you continue to troll me, I'm just going to report it.

Sai Rith

Sai Rith

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

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/signed. However, more than 100% of any continent can be easily explored, Foreign characters or not. So it doesn't really matter.

Red Sand

Red Sand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

New England

Warriors of Wynd [WoW]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
Open up a few areas for Cartographers

Like the Monastery Overlook.
Also towns that have the gatekeepers.
I think they should remove the gatekeepers but makes the npcs unusable unless you own that town. That way people can still map the towns but theres still a benefit to owning it.
I know theres alot more places but these are just the ones that pop up.
The original post didn't bring up PvP areas like Jade Quarry and Fort Aspenwood at all, but left it open enough for this thread to go there, because it was unclear.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
I would much rather have PvP area open with no danger than have people go into battle just to map then leave or just leech.
Are you saying that you would like be able to enter a PvP area and map at leisure without danger rather than enter a PvP area and map it in the middle of combat with difficulty because you will be forced to fight or run?

Or are you saying that you believe that if you map under combat conditions, your team mates might consider you a leecher while you map and be upset (perhaps report you) when you leave after you've finished your map?

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smurf Minions
I'm a lazy ass, please give me +50% to my carthographer title, kthxbai

/unsigned, do something for it....
Im not asking for free % we STILL have to map it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Yes I did. The phrase "oh and any other place I forgot" doesn't mean we can read you mind and know what you are talking about.

Stop trolling. I'm not posting any more responses on this thread. If you continue to troll me, I'm just going to report it.
Im responding not trolling. but ty for saying you wont be responding anymore.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sand
Are you saying that you would like be able to enter a PvP area and map at leisure without danger rather than enter a PvP area and map it in the middle of combat with difficulty because you will be forced to fight or run?

Or are you saying that you believe that if you map under combat conditions, your team mates might consider you a leecher while you map and be upset (perhaps report you) when you leave after you've finished your map?
Im not saying either really. I have already gone in and maped FA but I stayed and fought too.
I'm saying that OTHERS do this. I have been in many FA matches where people leave right after they finish mapping.
I would be fine with them opening up FA/JQ(especially JQ since no on is ever there) and throwing some foes in he area so theres still a little danger.

Sai Rith

Sai Rith

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Lol Guild Wars!

Red Sand

Red Sand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

New England

Warriors of Wynd [WoW]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
Im not saying either really.
Which is the point that many folks have been driving at: This was your OP. You're moderating this thread but you're not doing a good job getting your point across.

And somehow it's our fault. Go figure.

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sand
Which is the point that many folks have been driving at: This was your OP. You're moderating this thread but you're not doing a good job getting your point across.

And somehow it's our fault. Go figure.
I never said anything was anyones fault.
It's also not my fault that you guys just assume that I left things out.
Those in my OP were just the parts I happened to be around so were the only ones I thought of at that time. Which is why I said I know theres many other spots. If you want to think I'm limiting them to just the 2 I stated thats your problem. But Ill go edit my OP so people will quit assuming.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

/notsigned

You want it, work for it. It's not hard. All it takes is time, which is really all a title is. It says, "I wasted [number] of hours on [text] title."

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

The only way I would sign this is if it marginly removed limitations so you didn't have to scrape the edges of every map as much. It's not the amount of areas open that's the problem at all, moreso the amount of focus you have to use on it. Infact, there's no problem at all.

Red Sand

Red Sand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

New England

Warriors of Wynd [WoW]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
I never said anything was anyones fault.
It's also not my fault that you guys just assume that I left things out.
Oh really? You've failed to understand that you have made statements that require clarification and then clearly implied that we don't know how to read.
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Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
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read please.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
Which means that you along with others are not reading everything only what you want. here Ill quote a part for you to help you with this.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
Don't just read parts you want before responding.
For example.
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Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
But Ill go edit my OP so people will quit assuming.
I'm sure that will help recover this thread.

I probably wouldn't have cared about this thread one way or another, but you had to have the last word with HawkOfStorms when he decided to bow out of the thread and that annoyed me.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
Guild Halls ARE PvP battlefields too, yet they can be visited.

Arenas are not always used to fight. They are usually cleaned and such.

You can visit an stadium where you are not a player and when there is no match going on.

This is exactly the same.

I can't understand how can anyone be against something that harms no one.

When you are inside the fight, there's no time to check how the terrain is and things like those.

A way to visit those areas out of battle is wise. Like the explorable versions of Mission areas in Factions and Nightfall.
/signed for this. I've always liked how old-school your ideas are, Mithran.

Also, huuuuuge [email protected]

Nanood

Nanood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Supermans Crystal Palace

Legion Of The Dark Sun

There is enough opened up already.. How do you think the rest of us managed to get the title before...

Red Sand

Red Sand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

New England

Warriors of Wynd [WoW]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
I've always liked how old-school your ideas are, Mithran.
I always appreciate Mithran's ideas, even when I disagree with them.

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sand
Oh really? You've failed to understand that you have made statements that require clarification and then clearly implied that we don't know how to read.
The part where people were failing to read was the "I know there are many other spots" then they just assume I'm ONLY talking about the 2 spots I mentioned. So yes people were only reading what they want.
But its fixed and hopefully people will stop assuming things.

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

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I also have to say I see no need to open up those areas.
While it can be annoying to know there is a fair amount to explore in those zones it's not needed to map there if you hugg the walls on the rest of the areas enough.
The main problem continent is Cantha and specially JQ.
One has the choice to wait to map JQ or grind the same amount elsewhere.
I'm not sure which will take more time.

There is one thing I'd not mind A-net to change if possible on JQ and Aspen.
That is making only an international district available so all players get in the same outposts.
This should speed up teaming somewhat.

And the other areas... The only ones I can think of are the low-level arenas or the old tyrian arenas. And some stuff you can reach with a special trick.
I don't mind opening those up but again, there is no need and it does not make the title easier to achieve.
The moment you hit 99% and the last 1% is all over the map does not ease anything.

MStarfire

MStarfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

[SOS]

Rt/

/notsigned.

I don't have any particular reason, but whatever makes cartographer harder on you chumps is fine by me.