Open up a few areas for Cartographers

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

Like the Monastery Overlook.
Jade Quarry is a big one.
I know theres alot more places but these are just the ones that pop up.
This includes other campaigns, is NOT limited to just the ones I stated.
These 2 just rely too much on other people interaction or waiting for a festival that doesnt happen that often.
And yes I know these are not NEEDED but they DO count and are helpful.
I am also NOT asking for free % for cart we would still have to map these places.

N1ghtstalker

N1ghtstalker

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2007

E/

overlook doesn't count and charting town area's can be done without going in there
the only thing they should do is make sure you can get into aspenwood/jade quarry
which i have spent 3 hours on waiting just to get enough people to map jade quarry
for the rest it's not needed /notsigned

Ghostcell

Ghostcell

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

=VX9=

N/Mo

you don't need every little part mapped, /notsigned
you just have to be patient and for aspenwood/jade quarry just get a bunch of guildies or alliance members to join it.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

I would have been more willing to /sign if you gave good reason for NEEDING this, and for including more than just Cantha. As noted, you do not need every area mapped to get 100%, but getting some of those areas makes it easier.

Since there is no reason, this was an easy /unsigned.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

You don't need those areas.

smoochie kinz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Misery

Penguins and Eskimos (Brrr)

And most of the Monastery you can map during Canthan Festival and whatnot. Though the Jade Quarry/Aspenwood is a pain. Thats time trying to get it but its completely doable!

Parson Brown

Parson Brown

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

In ur base...

The one true [Hope]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by smoochie kinz
And most of the Monastery you can map during Canthan Festival and whatnot. Though the Jade Quarry/Aspenwood is a pain. Thats time trying to get it but its completely doable!
That's how I got my cart title. Those little sections of town aren't needed. JQ is the only real challenge in mapping Cantha.

Don Doggy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

/notsigned
No need to open overlook title can be achieved without it. Getting enough people to get into JQ is hard though.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Overlook is easily accessible during festivals.

"Restricted" areas usually unfong nothing. And if you want them badly, you can always hunt down alliance that owns that spot down and buy membership for few hours.

If you want to make something accessible, make starting istan areas because there is no way foreginer can reach that sizeable part of map. But they are not needed eaither.

Widowmaker

Widowmaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/

I just didn't bother with the Jade Quarry so it isn't essential that you do. But if you do want it I would imagine you're going to have to organise two teams.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Quote:
Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
overlook doesn't count and charting town area's can be done without going in there
Yes, it does count, but isn't needed.

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
I know theres alot more places but these are just the ones that pop up.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed
I would have been more willing to /sign if you gave good reason for NEEDING this, and for including more than just Cantha. As noted, you do not need every area mapped to get 100%, but getting some of those areas makes it easier.

Since there is no reason, this was an easy /unsigned.
read please. I wasnt NOT including any other campaign these areas are just the ones that were on my mind. As I said I know there are alot more areas this includes tyria/elona/gwen.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed
As noted, you do not need every area mapped to get 100%, but getting some of those areas makes it easier.

Since there is no reason, this was an easy /unsigned.
Theres no reason for them to be closed either.
For the towns theres no need for gatekeepes. The npcs can just not talk to you unless you own town.

How does doing this affect any of you in any way.
Answer it doesnt.
Just makes it to where we wont have to wait for festivals or wait for alliance of towns.
And mapping this section DOES count it may not be needed but for cartographer it is very helpful.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Overlook is open during festivals, and if you really want to get the area in those town areas, find a guild in the proper alliance and go for it.

/notsigned

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

/Notsigned.

The title is easy enough to get. If you want help, use Texmod or get a mate with 100% to compare.

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
Overlook is open during festivals, and if you really want to get the area in those town areas, find a guild in the proper alliance and go for it.

/notsigned
which happens like 5-6 times a year ya thats helpful.
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Originally Posted by Tyla
/Notsigned.

The title is easy enough to get. If you want help, use Texmod or get a mate with 100% to compare.
Already using Texmod and there are some spots that cannot be cleared without some areas being open. I scraped the edge for almost an hour and just cannot get there.
Seriously how does this hurt anyone? It doesnt. It wont make the game any harder/easier for you. you and Magma I notice are people that like to go to every suggestion and unsign everything because it wont benefit you.

unkleanone

unkleanone

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

TN

Semi Automatic Bananas [SEMI]

R/Mo

I dont' see that this could hurt anything in anyway. Though i would prefer to keep other alliances out of my restricted section. We work hard to own towns I say no to that but the others. why not.

/signed.

TheodenKing

TheodenKing

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

DoA

Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk)

N/Me

/signed.

Won't affect me, won't affect the economy, won't affect any of you.
zzzzzzzz...

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by unkleanone
I dont' see that this could hurt anything in anyway. Though i would prefer to keep other alliances out of my restricted section. We work hard to own towns I say no to that but the others. why not.

/signed.
well ya thats why im saying the npcs that are in the restricted areas still cant be used by anyone other than the town owners. But the gates themselves open.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
overlook doesn't count and charting town area's can be done without going in there
the only thing they should do is make sure you can get into aspenwood/jade quarry
which i have spent 3 hours on waiting just to get enough people to map jade quarry
for the rest it's not needed /notsigned
The only places that do not count are pre-Searing, underground areas and 'out of space' areas like The Mist or Glint's sand lair.
Monastery Overlook and Island of Shehkah DO count.

Monastery can be mapped when Shing Jea is expanded with that map, though.
Island of Shehkah is the only one left, then.

And for the rest, ALL PvP areas should have a 'visit' mode, like Guild Halls have.
The Host in the PvP outpost should have an option to get to the explorable version of that area.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I would like to see more Rin openned up and be it town outpost as it is important city in Ascalon.Dascir would be nice but I would like Rin.

Widowmaker

Widowmaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/

I didn't do either the Jade Quarry or the overlook and my proph born warrior has Legendary Cartographer so you don't need either of them for the Cantha title.

There is around 103% available to map.

I have no problem with it either way, just saying you certainly don't need them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
well ya thats why im saying the npcs that are in the restricted areas still cant be used by anyone other than the town owners. But the gates themselves open.
If I recall correctly there is only one town that you can't pretty much fully map from the outside anyway, and you can use a shadowstep to get inside there if you're stuck.

Junzi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2008

Fur United [Nyaa]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
The only places that do not count are pre-Searing, underground areas and 'out of space' areas like The Mist or Glint's sand lair.
Monastery Overlook and Island of Shehkah DO count.

Monastery can be mapped when Shing Jea is expanded with that map, though.
Island of Shehkah is the only one left, then.

And for the rest, ALL PvP areas should have a 'visit' mode, like Guild Halls have.
The Host in the PvP outpost should have an option to get to the explorable version of that area.
They do count, but their not required. Still though I like your idea of a visit mode. I know I could get my last .2% for elona with the Island or PvP combat area.(esepcially since texmod shows nothing that I can reach but those two areas) Especially do this for JQ, some days I've seen 12 people on one side but none on the other just trying to map it. Be such an easy fix Anet.

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Widowmaker

If I recall correctly there is only one town that you can't pretty much fully map from the outside anyway, and you can use a shadowstep to get inside there if you're stuck.
Is the town youre thinking of Amatz Basin? The portion just S.E. of it I have tried for awhile to clear it and just cant. The only way it looks like I could is to get into the restricted area.

Widowmaker

Widowmaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/

Eredon Terrace is the place I'm thinking of.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Yes, with Eredon Terrace, you can easily get the last spots.

Honestly, this is just a stupid suggestion, since MANY, MANY, MANY people have been able to get cartographer before w/o all those bonus areas.

Jenn

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

/not signed.

Many people have gotten these titles just fine. I don't see why you want to make an already mind-numbing simple task easier.

Widowmaker

Widowmaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Illfated Fat
mind-numbing simple task easier.
That would be mapping Tyria then.

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
Yes, with Eredon Terrace, you can easily get the last spots.

Honestly, this is just a stupid suggestion, since MANY, MANY, MANY people have been able to get cartographer before w/o all those bonus areas.
oh hey another person I see troll threads just to say how stupid a suggestion is.
You know a simple signed notsigned would do the trick.

It doesnt matter how many people have done this. the game is 3 years old almost time for people to move on to GW2. Would make sense to make a few things a little easier to obtain before GW2.

mazey vorstagg

mazey vorstagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Nodnol

Meeting of Lost Minds

E/Mo

I got my carto with no jade quarry, aspenwood often has players anyway. It wasn't bad

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

I'll /sign it.
I LOVE the Overlook and it would be superb to take my guys there for photo opportunities.

Carto what ... ?

Productivity

Productivity

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Mo/

Not signed. It's perfectly doable to get GMC without opening out these areas and they're locked for a reason.

Jenn

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
oh hey another person I see troll threads just to say how stupid a suggestion is.
You know a simple signed notsigned would do the trick.

It doesnt matter how many people have done this. the game is 3 years old almost time for people to move on to GW2. Would make since to make a few things a little easier to obtain before GW2.
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I wouldn't normally ever do this, but you approach things with such hostility in almost everything you say - and I don't even know if you realize that you do it. Here's a few reminders from other things you've said to point out hypocrisy....

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
NO MORE damn titles.
They are pointlss serve no purpose.
none take any skill what so ever to get. It only shows you paid alot for it or spen too much time doing it either way pointless
So, if titles are pointless, you created this thread because....?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
End game greens suck /notsigned
A simple /not signed would do the trick. You're just as condescending to the threads of others in Sardelac...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
NO. Survivor is meant to be a challange(although with hfff I know its not)
Reseting survivor would just be stupid. Its another useless title.
Ah yes, and here's the kicker. Or does the OP reserve the right to decide which titles should and should not be a challenge? I might have missed that somewhere in the disclaimer...

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Like I said before, the title is already easy to get. If anything, you pose a huge contradiction by wanting this to be easier. With the survivor title, there is a guaranteed way to screw up, and lots of people had already gotten "screwed" by making their main character prior to the existance of the Survivor title. Shouldn't you show them folk some compassion?

edit: This isn't a personal attack. This is me trying to say a couple things: 1) Pick one side or the other - do you want titles to be easy or not? At the end of the day, all they do is go in our HoM 2) Don't dish what you can't take - a little compassion goes a long way.
Cheers.

Red Sand

Red Sand

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

New England

Warriors of Wynd [WoW]

W/

If there are sufficient areas to meet the requirements of all of the cartographer titles without the restricted areas, why do we need to allow access to restricted areas? Is it just to avoid having to explore truly difficult PvE areas* and still get the title?

*You know the ones: They require a group of thinking people and not just henchies and heroes to explore fully.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
And for the rest, ALL PvP areas should have a 'visit' mode, like Guild Halls have.
The Host in the PvP outpost should have an option to get to the explorable version of that area.
So what you're saying is a RP character should be able to explore a PvP battlefield without the danger of actually having to engage in PvP to explore it?

Mithran, I always like to read what you write, but as a PvX player, I don't agree with that at all.

/notsigned

crazybanshee

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Look out!

E/

Not necessary. Why should they go through the extra trouble of doing this instead of more important things, when it's simple to do without opening any other areas. I got legendary cartographer with no textmod of any kind, just wall-walking. I had none of the old pvp arenas, and none of the new ones cause I didn't think to do it till I was level 20. Still I got 100% on every continent without even wall-walking every single area. Heck, in cantha I only wall-walked in 1 area because I ran through fa and jq, and got the monastery during a boardwalk weekend, giving me 100% very easily.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sand
Mithran, I always like to read what you write, but as a PvX player, I don't agree with that at all.

/notsigned
Guild Halls ARE PvP battlefields too, yet they can be visited.

Arenas are not always used to fight. They are usually cleaned and such.

You can visit an stadium where you are not a player and when there is no match going on.

This is exactly the same.

I can't understand how can anyone be against something that harms no one.

When you are inside the fight, there's no time to check how the terrain is and things like those.

A way to visit those areas out of battle is wise. Like the explorable versions of Mission areas in Factions and Nightfall.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailey Anne
Seriously how does this hurt anyone? It doesnt. It wont make the game any harder/easier for you. you and Magma I notice are people that like to go to every suggestion and unsign everything because it wont benefit you.
When Sardelac starts getting more than 2 decent ideas a month I would consider /Signing more often.

As for "not affecting me", I suppose that's because I've only got a little to explore in Tyria for Legendary Cartographer? No. This title is easy enough as it is.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mithran
Arenas are not always used to fight. They are usually cleaned and such.
Hi. This is a video game, where *gasp* logic doesn't apply. I suppose we should have baths, houses, benches and a bed and breakfast while we're at it...

Oh, and loldetectiveillfated.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

I'm not a troll, I just like to point out logically fallicies that prevent suggestions from being added (ie, if somebody makes a suggestion that would allow for an exploitation of game mechanics/harm the economy/are detremental to gameplay that the OP didn't forsee, I point that out).

You, however just insulted me and was trying to stir up a hostile response. Thanks for coming to my defense Illfated Fat.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

/notsigned

Like other titles, to max it takes grind. With things like texmod these days, its much easier these days anyway.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

There are many arenas that do not count for any Carthographer title.

And the % that the arenas and other PvP areas that do count is really small.

The benefit of being able to roleplay and get to know those areas outside battles is way greater than any downside it would bring... and, well, that's not hard, since there is NO downside.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

There's no downside to making an already easy title easier either. Oh, wait...