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Heloniar

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28 Aug 2008 at 15:22 - 1

I've been thinking,

What if Anet decides to limit the benefits to just 5? What do you think the benefits would be?

Honor/Gwamm=would be a nifty emote, something on the lines of KOABD +1 = a plain Divine Aura. with each rank, it becomes more divine, and godly.

Devotion= would probably be an ancient Dragon minipet, probably Primordus or Drakkar.

Fellowship= Adds an GW2 only elite Ranger pet, or one Hero from the GW2 story (as a artificial sidekick) or both.

Valor= If the weapons work the same way in GW2, then I'll asume gold max inscripable choice of a unique skin, lets call it "Moument Weaponry" for each weapon, it's not going to be necessarily Destroyer. you can get a weapon but this applies only to your class choices. and Wand/Foci and Sword/axe and shield goes together in pairs.

Resilience=GW2 only based armor skin, Prestige/Elite level armor with lot of detailing, max armor. probably the highest tier of prestige in terms of difficulty and time to obtain.

Also GW2 HOM would be a carbon copy of what you have in the GW1 HOM right now minus the rainbow phoenix.

tmakinen

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28 Aug 2008 at 15:32 - 2

Something along those lines, yes. Many players seem to have entirely unrealistic expectations and will be disappointed when the rewards are finally announced.

I'd like to see an entire bonus weapons set, though (like the preorder bonus items of GW).

Sindy

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28 Aug 2008 at 15:35 - 3

Yeah...overall I could see this happening. It's supposed to be a little fun for a while, but by no means having any real impact.

The only thing would be Resilience: certainly won't be "highest tier of prestige". It's not all that hard to get in GW1, and they need to make prestige armor worth getting for all the lvl xxx people. It will be more like the collector armor in pre...nice, but quickly outdated.

Free Runner

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28 Aug 2008 at 15:35 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heloniar

Valor= If the weapons work the same way in GW2, then I'll asume gold max inscripable choice of a unique skin, lets call it "Moument Weaponry" for each weapon, it's not going to be necessarily Destroyer. you can get a weapon but this applies only to your class choices. and Wand/Foci and Sword/axe and shield goes together in pairs.

Aint going to happen. They will probably unlock some /bonus weapon that are "okay" for the first few stages of GW2.

Quote:

Resilience=GW2 only based armor skin, Prestige/Elite level armor with lot of detailing, max armor. probably the highest tier of prestige in terms of difficulty and time to obtain.

No. Probably a new starter armour skin. Or perhaps actual physical things such as tattoos on your character. Nothing that puts you ahead of those who didnt play GW1.

Heloniar

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28 Aug 2008 at 15:39 - 5

I'd like to think thatstarters and /bonus weapoons doesn't count. anyway, I've heard that you don't start at the HOM.

I expect HOM to be the GW2's ancension though so what I think is entirely valid.

Skyy High

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28 Aug 2008 at 15:40 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heloniar

I've been thinking,

What if Anet decides to limit the benefits to just 5? What do you think the benefits would be?

Very little lag, as everyone would /ragequit the game.

Heloniar

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28 Aug 2008 at 15:46 - 7

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Originally Posted by Skyy High

Very little lag, as everyone would /ragequit the game.

I'm being realisitic, anet probablym doesn't want to do 1 little thing for each thing that goes in the HOM it's wasteful and not cost effective.

Scythe O F Glory

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28 Aug 2008 at 15:47 - 8

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Free Runner

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28 Aug 2008 at 15:47 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heloniar

I'd like to think thatstarters and /bonus weapoons doesn't count.

...What?

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anyway, I've heard that you don't start at the HOM.

No you haven't.

Cebe

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28 Aug 2008 at 15:47 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmakinen

Something along those lines, yes. Many players seem to have entirely unrealistic expectations and will be disappointed when the rewards are finally announced.

That's because free stuff can only possibly be vanity items. Anything else would give an unfair advantage to those who played GW:1.

Heloniar

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28 Aug 2008 at 15:48 - 11

in the GW mag that had the destroyer code, it says that!

Nessar

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28 Aug 2008 at 15:55 - 12

It'll prolly be most of that stuff, besides the max armor...prolly some /bonus weapons too. It's going to be vanity anyway, I don't expect anything mouth droppingly awesome.

I do want a divine aura tho

Shadowspawn X

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28 Aug 2008 at 15:57 - 13

I'm sure every trophy will be rewarded, there will be enough goodies so people won't feel gypped out of thousands of hours of play. However no in game advantage will be given to those veteran players over the new GW2 players.
By the GW2 being a sequel and not really a complete do over, there may be some things worth having from an aesthetic view point that will send the GW2 only players into QQ mode, but as long as all players start off at the same level in pve and the pvp is balanced there will be no legitimate issue about in game advantages. There will also be QQ from the GW1 players who didn't bother with their hall and don't want to see those that did with any rewards. I think most players will be pleased overall. But the forums will be jumping with extremist views no matter what.

snaek

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28 Aug 2008 at 16:00 - 14

they're gonna be amazing!!!!

they want to make sure ppl who currently play gw1 to have an incentive to buy gw2
also anet wants gw2 newcommers to be jealous of the ppl that have it, so they'll buy gw1 to get the stuffs
sooo moar $$$$ for anet

$$$$$ is good
m.o.x. says hai

Heloniar

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28 Aug 2008 at 16:20 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

I'm sure every trophy will be rewarded, there will be enough goodies so people won't feel gypped out of thousands of hours of play. However no in game advantage will be given to those veteran players over the new GW2 players.
By the GW2 being a sequel and not really a complete do over, there may be some things worth having from an aesthetic view point that will send the GW2 only players into QQ mode, but as long as all players start off at the same level in pve and the pvp is balanced there will be no legitimate issue about in game advantages

not time effective or cost effective as i said, it takes money and time to develop every single reward for every single thing in the HOM

Crimso

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28 Aug 2008 at 16:24 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free Runner

Aint going to happen. They will probably unlock some /bonus weapon that are "okay" for the first few stages of GW2.

No. Probably a new starter armour skin. Or perhaps actual physical things such as tattoos on your character. Nothing that puts you ahead of those who didnt play GW1.

How about uniquely designed armour that scales as you level up like heroes have when they level up. That way it won't put a player ahead of other characters and at a cut-off level(maybe 20 like original GW or the level where leveling up further yields little to no more bonuses) it will achieve the max armour(e.g. 60 for casters).

So in the end the armour will still be on par with anything else.

Shadowspawn X

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28 Aug 2008 at 16:36 - 17

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Originally Posted by Heloniar

not time effective or cost effective as i said, it takes money and time to develop every single reward for every single thing in the HOM

Thats why they put those things in there in the first place. Also from a development side its childs play to make a pointer from each trophy to a reward. They may even go so far as to recognize the difference between a r8 and a r12 who knows?

Free Runner

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28 Aug 2008 at 16:48 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimso

How about uniquely designed armour that scales as you level up like heroes have when they level up. That way it won't put a player ahead of other characters and at a cut-off level(maybe 20 like original GW or the level where leveling up further yields little to no more bonuses) it will achieve the max armour(e.g. 60 for casters).

So in the end the armour will still be on par with anything else.

New players would still have to buy their armour while the GW1 Veterans automaticly have it, cost free. Since they have already said GW2 will be more equipment based, armour will probably be a big deal.

Star Gazer

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28 Aug 2008 at 16:49 - 19

my guess?

a title.

it grants ZOMGWOWNESS for those "veterans" of Guild Wars, but has no impact whatsoever on gameplay. The title name: Legendary Conquerer (lol) of Tyria

i got my hall full already. now i just have to wait. but no, i am not getting my hopes set on an emote, and not even a weapon (or even more laughable was the idea of an entire weaponset). Its going to be about looks.

my next guess will be a mini of you. it will be totally exclusive (if you can call it that with all of the armors floating about) to you, and honestly, who the hell would want a mini you?

Ladies and Gentlemen, be ready to be disappointed.

Mister_Smiley

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28 Aug 2008 at 17:00 - 20

ya i agree on most of them as for max armor/weapons. But i believe that the humans will not start at the HOM and they will get there later. But remember the quote "character in Guild Wars 2 will be able to physically access the hall and "walk out looking like a bad-ass.""

NoXiFy

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28 Aug 2008 at 17:13 - 21

I want players to get maybe a trophy they can show in their guild hall or on their armor (such aas a medal) or a cutsomized minipet/weapon. I don't think it's fair that the old-school players can start the game out "WTS: Miniautre Balthazer YOU CAN ONLY GET IT IF U WERE r6KAOBD! 100k+5000 Dyes!" I loved the idea of GW2 for the fact that those that started late (i haventr even palyed fofr 2 years yet) can start over! Instead of rejoining an MMO, poor, unwanted in PvP(unranked), and having to play mannnny hours just to save up for something someone got for free, like a birthday present.

Heloniar

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28 Aug 2008 at 17:24 - 22

I got the feeling that the rewards would be customized to the player only so, no selling or trading at all

unkleanone

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28 Aug 2008 at 17:31 - 23

there would also be no point in trying to sell any of that stuff because pretty much everyone will be broke for quite a while.

tmakinen

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28 Aug 2008 at 17:52 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Star Gazer

even more laughable was the idea of an entire weaponset

Um. I can already now in GW1 create an unlimited amount of decent if not stellar max stat weapons just by typing one word, and ANet doesn't consider it to be an unfair advantage over those who can't. How should GW2 be any different?

Damian979

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:11 - 25

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2/FAQ

Quote:

Originally Posted by GUILD WARS OFFICIAL WIKI

Q:So what stuff do I actually get in GW2 from putting things in the Hall of Monuments?

A:There isn't any word on this. Anything you get from OGW won't give you a permanent advantage over new GW2 players. Basically, expect cosmetic stuff with stats that new GW2 players will be able to achieve by playing GW2

woohoo for HoM title grinding

Heloniar

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:13 - 26

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Originally Posted by Damian979

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2/FAQ

woohoo for title grinding

it kinda seems a waste, all that work for what? 10 hours of using the armor? hmm no i don't think that'd happen.

isamu kurosawa

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:15 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoXiFy

I want players to get maybe a trophy they can show in their guild hall or on their armor (such aas a medal) or a cutsomized minipet/weapon. I don't think it's fair that the old-school players can start the game out "WTS: Miniautre Balthazer YOU CAN ONLY GET IT IF U WERE r6KAOBD! 100k+5000 Dyes!" I loved the idea of GW2 for the fact that those that started late (i haventr even palyed fofr 2 years yet) can start over! Instead of rejoining an MMO, poor, unwanted in PvP(unranked), and having to play mannnny hours just to save up for something someone got for free, like a birthday present.

Firstly. Nobody would have that kind of money to buy such items with at the start of a whole new game.

Second. It has been stated that yuo can fill the HoM at any time after gw2 release so those gw2 only players could always purchase the origional gw and then fill a HoM.

Free Runner

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:18 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heloniar

it kinda seems a waste, all that work for what? 10 hours of using the armor? hmm no i don't think that'd happen.

We're sorry that you feel you need the advantage over new players in the new game due to what you did in the old game. They always said the rewards would be cosmetic.

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Actually, I think it's quite the opposite - after GW 2 release, you can't get HoM any more.

No. They already said the HoM would remain open.

Abedeus

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:19 - 29

Quote:

Second. It has been stated that yuo can fill the HoM at any time after gw2 release so those gw2 only players could always purchase the origional gw and then fill a HoM.

Actually, I think it's quite the opposite - after GW 2 release, you can't get HoM any more.

Heloniar

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:20 - 30

no
Not what I meant. I meant what happens if you like the skin? What then? I don't give a fig about stats since GW isn't about stats anyway.

Mister_Smiley

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:21 - 31

its also been stated that the HOM will not give a adavantage in GW2 which most likey means that they will be customized items or something. Also stated that after GW2 goes live that at some point the offers for the HOM will no longer be valid, but that could mean 1-2 years later or something.

Don't forget that most of these are just theories that we are putting togeather.

Heloniar

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:24 - 32

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Actually, I think it's quite the opposite - after GW 2 release, you can't get HoM any more.

recheck the wiki FAQS

HOM is still open after GW2's release

Free Runner

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:24 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heloniar

no
Not what I meant. I meant what happens if you like the skin? What then? I don't give a fig about stats since GW isn't about stats anyway.

You dont care about the stats but you dont like that the item which you might like will have stats only useable for about "10 hours"? say they do give a new skin of armor on the basic level of starter armour...since you dont care about that stats you could just keep it when you get some new armour.

cthulhu reborn

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:25 - 34

Well in a recent developer update about the HoM they said that the HoM will have a char mode and an account mode and that your new chars in GW2 can each get all the benefits from the HoM.
I expect skins and nothing more, but hey, that's cool with me.

Heloniar

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:25 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free Runner

You dont care about the stats but you dont like that the item which you might like will have stats only useable for about "10 hours"?

yep that's it in a nutshell and what if you get a really cool looking armor, complete with wings and an halo, a giant glowing sword with a shield of light which a limited amount of people that plays can ever get with crappy stats , would you rather use that or something that looks rather drab compared to it simply because it's superior in stats and therefore, better for GW2's endgame?

Damian979

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:30 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heloniar

no
Not what I meant. I meant what happens if you like the skin? What then? I don't give a fig about stats since GW isn't about stats anyway.

enemies: "that sword.... the skin is .... it's so.... OMG UBER LEET!" /falldead

Heloniar

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:34 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian979

enemies: "that sword.... the skin is .... it's so.... OMG UBER LEET!" /falldead

lol. as long the skin looks good and the weapons function like max

what's the point in having "Unique" if you can't kill a mergoyle with it without using any skills?

I challenge people to go through the game using only starter weapons and armor

Damian979

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:42 - 38

Lol, I'm just messing with you Heloniar. I like my gear to look cool too, just with out any idea of what the "rewards" are going to look like or whether I will like them, I can't see frantically trying to fill my HoM.

Free Runner

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:44 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heloniar

yep that's it in a nutshell and what if you get a really cool looking armor, complete with wings and an halo, a giant glowing sword with a shield of light which a limited amount of people that plays can ever get with crappy stats , would you rather use that or something that looks rather drab compared to it simply because it's superior in stats and therefore, better for GW2's endgame?

Yes i would use the "drab" armour. For two reasons - not wanting to look like a lightbulb with wings and wanting to actually play Guild Wars 2 rather than Fashion Wars. Walking into an end game area with basic starter level armour just because you want to look good is not recommended.

isamu kurosawa

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28 Aug 2008 at 18:49 - 40

I wouldn't be suprised if anet added one of the things alot of people wanted in gw. town Clothes/accessories. Purely cosmetic items.