Villain mission pack: their side of the story

Chaos Flame Reaper

Chaos Flame Reaper

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

D/

Sick of being the hero? why not be the villain of the story and *cough make history

prophechies: a charr general during the searing
Factions: shiro during the day of the jade wind
Nightfall:Palawa Joko during the scorge of vabbi
Eye of the North:umm a destroyer?

p.s ppl post suggestions for mission pack stories for missions [no big creatures such as orr the dragon.]

farmerfez

farmerfez

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

You should know

W/

meh that would totally mess up the whole theme of guildwars being the hero and all.

pamelf

pamelf

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Lost Templars [LoTe]

Me/Mo

I don't love the BMP to begin with but if they were going to bring out another one anyway I must admit I'd be partial to this.

I've always loved a good untold story.

CronkTheImpaler

CronkTheImpaler

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

midwest

AE

W/Me

i like it. A net took that out of the hands of the consumer from the start. i always thought it would be kinda cool to play as you said, as a char, or maybe a summit general and so on. we spend the entire series killin these guys for reasons that at times are awful flimsy lol. at least this way we will know what the other side was thinkin.



Cronk

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Playing as the villain in GW?

Do want! The events should be something that ends successfully for the villain though. Shiro got captured/killed/whatever on the day of the Jade Wind, so that wouldn't be a good play.

Deadshot Seven

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

A/

If the villains were to be successful, then it'd have to be something in the future rather than in the past, which I'm guessing the books will cover, I.E Palawa Joko raising his army after his rebirth.
Primordous (sp?) taking over basically all of the guild wars world...
etc, etc.
Although the Charr idea could work, It'd be the only one successful.

TheGuildWarsPenguin

TheGuildWarsPenguin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Los Angeles, California

Picnic Pioneers

E/

Charr+Searing should be fun if we get to use Gloat.

/signed

Maybe something involving the Crimson Skull?

Nude Nira

Nude Nira

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

inside a tanning bed

It's Raining Fame Hallelujah 【傘回傘】

Me/

Me thinks GW2 BMP. Except not so crappy.

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nude Nira
Me thinks GW2 BMP. Except not so crappy.
i like this while we wait for gw2 maybe intermediate history for us to play through for bonuses in gw2

CronkTheImpaler

CronkTheImpaler

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

midwest

AE

W/Me

im following ya placebo, i like that idea. Its like i said in an earlier post, "if GW does not introduce new content (expansion of some sort) and GW2 does not release until 2010, i think well be lookin at a dead title guys. the current content will not survive a year and a half without fresh meat.




Cronk

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Oh, totally /signed, it was sickening how our character is forced into the role of the dim-witted, gullible hero, it'd be nice to play as someone other than that guy :P

Actually, knowing ArenaNet, it would come out being full of cringeworthy dialogue one might expect from Talon Silverwing or Devona, so actually... /notsigned

the Puppeteer

the Puppeteer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2007

I like this

well - if ppl complain that the events need to end successfully for the villain - why not play as one of their supporters in those events?
can work for the charr, summit, palawas undead - they all look alike (can make a "happy end" for them - sorta)
Maybe not for shiro :P

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

Not a bad idea, but I would rather see that ArenaNet would give more options for our existing characters instead.

/notsigned

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

I think the "Villain Mission Pack" is an outstanding idea. I'm sure quite a lot of people would like to play missions where they get to nuke Ascalon, drown Orr, capture Rin, assassinate the Emperor of Cantha etc etc etc.

/signed.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Would I enjoy having (more) quests or missions where I get to chose the "right" thing or the "wrong" one?
Yeah - it would be fun! Especially if it would have an influence on the game!

Would I enjoy playing quests or missions where I am not playing with my character of choice?
Nah. That's the reason why I also didn't throw the money out for the BMP.


So, I like the idea, I don't like the execution.
/not singed

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Probably what Factions should have been.

Luxon VS Kurzic should have been the place for players to work for the dark side or not.
In the period between early Dungeons and dragons and the advent of computer RPGs there was a time where players doing the dirty and being able to play shifty unreliable characters with their own agenda became quite popular.

Role playing is quite sanatised these days, it would be fun to be the baddie or one of his henchmen occasionally.
I think that was one reason I played Dungeon keeper a lot some years back.

mission pack might be fun but like the previous mission pack a little boring after a day or so.
If your going to invest time and money writing something make it more worth while.

They already have City of Heroes City of Villains so why ever not.

BrettM

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

/signed

One of the interesting things about GW is that many of the "villains" are not so clearly villainous when you think about it. The land known as Ascalon belonged to the Charr before humans came and pushed them out, and they are simply reclaiming their territory. Shiro was clearly an honorable man who was tricked into committing a dishonorable act. The Mursaat were panicked by the threatened genocide of their race and, unfortunately, decided to adopt King Herod's solution to the problem. It could be a lot of fun to see the story from those points of view.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Evil must be annihilated.
No one should impersonate evil.
Evil is not fun.
Lionhead studios committed grave sins when they added the choice of good and evil to their games.
The only possible dark side is the side to self-destruction.
Only good-doing is fun.
It doesn't matter if it's fiction or a game or whatever.
Evil must be destroyed at all costs, even from fiction.

We impersonated D'Alessio, and were tricked by the white mantle, and that is the nearest possible we should get to evil.

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

Poor Lionhead. I love Fable

Anyway, I'm at the point where I almost wish they'd stop supporting GW so they'd actually work on GW2. New content would be good, and I admittedly even like the idea, but it's pulling time away from GW2, so I have to pass.

/notsigned

eximiis

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Signed if they introduce New armor piece (deldrimor armor)

dilan155

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

N/

ya why not, it will give me something to do atleast. /signed

mastermaxx1

mastermaxx1

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

I would love to play as a mursaat, charr, or forgotten. And of coarse, Shiro.
I would also think it would be cool to play as Vizier Khilbron when he destroyed Orr, and learn more about the country we never saw.

Accursed

Accursed

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

/signed - This is a great idea. I always love to play on the dark side.

stretchs

stretchs

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

Untimely Demise [Err了] - SOHK

Totally would love to see it if we were to have another BMP, I wouldnt love getting next to nothing from it to be used in game, but would definitely love to play as Shiro, Lich, etc. Maybe even turn into Abbadon and allow you go throw his falling from grace and turn to power in the underside of gw

Senrath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Halfway between here and there

Advanced Technology [CCCP]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mastermaxx1
I would love to play as a mursaat, charr, or forgotten. And of coarse, Shiro.
I would also think it would be cool to play as Vizier Khilbron when he destroyed Orr, and learn more about the country we never saw.
I second the part about Vizier Khilbron. It would definitely clear up the question of whether or not he purposefully destroyed Orr.

Victorious

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Had to laugh at this one. Great idea. I've thought from time to time, what would it be like being a stationary/roving band of (enter enemy here) while this random group of marauders rolls through the area? I'm game to play as/from any bad-guys vantage point however. I had a good time when the BMP came out. It was nice to try something different.

/signed for Charr (those kid's are psychopaths), Margonites, Undead (more Joko ftw), and pets (pissed-off rabits and lions aren't enough for me).

draxynnic

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

Could be an interesting idea...

Shiro could be done as a survival-type mission... "Find out how long Shiro could have held out against Vizu and the two champions!"

That said, Shiro probably is a bad option, since a large part of how he went down there was through being caught by surprise. We all know that story, so we'd be expecting it. Some of the others could be fleshed out, though...

Lady Raenef

Lady Raenef

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Oregon, USA.

Zero Mercy [zm]

W/

I'd rather play the role of one of the Kurzick/Luxons (depending on your faction) to slaying Shiro. But I'd love a chance to play Shiro with all his bad ass skills.

Shooshu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Me/

its a nice idea understanding the lore more.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zelgadissan
Poor Lionhead. I love Fable

Anyway, I'm at the point where I almost wish they'd stop supporting GW so they'd actually work on GW2. New content would be good, and I admittedly even like the idea, but it's pulling time away from GW2, so I have to pass.

/notsigned
I love Fable too, but there is no point in adding bad options if it's completely senseless to go that way!
What kind of idiot would kill all villagers? There's no one to admire you without all the villagers!

Same in Black and White. What is the point on killing the poor villagers? That makes no sense! If there are no villagers to praise you, why do you exist as a god?
I wetn through the whole game with a white temple, a rainbow hand, a tender creature and only good miracles!

Good is always better. That's why it's called 'good'.

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

Aww you forgot Menzies and Dhumn, personally i wish these two characters were more involved in the game, currently they are just in fissure and uw, and help abaddon out alittle in nf. Sorta always wondered what happened post nf with these two.

RockmanHero

RockmanHero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Belmont, CA

Dancin' On Graves

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelf
I don't love the BMP to begin with but if they were going to bring out another one anyway I must admit I'd be partial to this.

I've always loved a good untold story.
I don't really understand. What was wrong with the BMP?

I think this sounds like a great idea. I'd buy it.

Sword Hammer Axe

Sword Hammer Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2008

Look up.

Kurzick Conflagration Unit [KCU].

W/

Hmmm well I don't know about "all evil mission pack" but another mission pack might be cool I suggest following 4:

"Shiro during Jade Wind"
"Khilbron during Charr invasion in Orr"
"Adelbern (Or Devona's father, Mordakai) during the Guild Wars"
"Jadoth during his sailing trip before he became a margonite"

Ok I wanted the last one to be a NF one but couldn'treally figure one out :P

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Wouldn't be a bad idea. I probablly won't buy it if it was seperately sold like the BMP (I didn't buy that either), but I'm sure some people would.

Although, if there was some sort of time travel/memorial missions in GW2, I'd like to see some of this stuff in there instead just due to the increased graphic abilities (especially stuff about the actually guild wars)

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaos Flame Reaper
no big creatures such as orr the dragon.]
The dragon's name isn't Orr...

Anyways, I like the idea. Seeing how the BMP was made for one per campaign, I suppose it should be the same this way, so here are my suggestions:

Prophecies: Margonite vs Forgotten War in the Crystal Desert. OR. Odran opening his portals *yes, he wasn't really a villain but I WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED!* OR. As people have said, Khilbron destroying Orr. That would let us see Orr in it's former glory of the gods!

Factions: Shiro during the Harvest Ceremony *although, there won't be much fighting until shiro goes insane, maybe add in some assassins THEN go to the ceremony?*

Nightfall: Abaddon vs the Five True Gods (we all wanted his powers anyways, so let us become Abaddon!)

Eye of the North: The Burnt Legion going to Hragmar and descovering the Titans.


After that, another BMP that explains the events between GW1 and GW2 would be good. Or just various other questionable events. (And yes, I know there are 3 books coming out to explain some events between GW1 and GW2, but there could always be more then 3 books worth of events )


Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
Playing as the villain in GW?

Do want! The events should be something that ends successfully for the villain though. Shiro got captured/killed/whatever on the day of the Jade Wind, so that wouldn't be a good play.
You do know that Saul basically dies at the end of his BMP mission, right? We can have all/most the villians die too. And honestly, Saul's mission was my favorite.

Dru Stratas

Dru Stratas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

England.

Colloidal Gold [Purp] - Leader

E/

I agree with pretty much everything Az just said :P
Tbh, this is a great idea
I hope to think, if this was indeed put forward, that certain items, such as weapons/ armor would also be realeased. Most probably the weapons, otherwise everyone would walk around looking the same

Chaos Flame Reaper

Chaos Flame Reaper

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2007

D/

Thanks for the suggestions. so far I'm getting this:

Prophecies:Khilbron erasing Orr/ Charr from searing
Factions:Shiro at harvest temple
Nightfall:Joko at scrouge of vabbi
Eye of the north:???

everyone is also saying w8 till GW2 and im agreeing with that cuz if they choose charr for the EMP[not electromagnetic waves or experience music project] it would be easier for that and will probably have to update the mis and ppl will be pissed.Also it would help to choose for an evil villian for Eotn

Issac

Issac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Earthrealm

W/A

/signed

Would be fun as hell

AlexEternal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

South of England.

-

Mo/E

I agree with this idea totally, but perhaps it could throw in some questions about what happened AFTER your character has beaten The Lich, Abaddon, Shiro and The Great Destroyer...almost as a prologue to GW2. Nothing concrete but give us something to hypothosize on. This might also be a good time to test out some new renders and such for the graphics on GW2....

Even if all that gets totally disregarded.../signed

Eleonora Morgan

Eleonora Morgan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Absinthe and Lace [Posh]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sword Hammer Axe
What a stupid thing to say.
QFT

And also, /signed. Playing the bad guy is always more fun.