Nemesis, I could not care less. And you know why? Because having been away for a year I am not "hip" to the new acronyms of forum 'leet speak.
VS farm? I know not what is a VS; perhaps it is a Vile Sausage. What in the world is a VS?
Really I'm more concerned about the proliferation of forum 'leet speak than any farming that may be going on.
VS farm effect on GW's *economy*
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Joe Fierce
Wilds Pathfinder
LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.
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Joined Feb 2007
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So how big is this price drop anyway? When (if it will) will VS drop to 20k or lower?(So i can actually afford it)
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Nemesis, I could not care less. And you know why? Because having been away for a year I am not "hip" to the new acronyms of forum 'leet speak.
VS farm? I know not what is a VS; perhaps it is a Vile Sausage. What in the world is a VS? Really I'm more concerned about the proliferation of forum 'leet speak than any farming that may be going on. |
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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce
With a drop rate of around 0.2% i think it was calculated out to, or was it 2%, never, unless you get lucky and get a good req one to drop.
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Originally Posted by Nemesis of God
Conclusion: VS, Amethyst Aegis and other fancy weapons, including DW, price will drop, but it won't cause big losses.
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it happened with "collosal scymitar farm effect on GW's *economy*", "fellblades, brute swords, etc, farm effect on GW's *economy*".
who RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing cares?
jade and amber prices are rock bottom now and NOBODY complains, so why the hell should people start complaining about onyx and diamonds?
Like i care that the prices of diamonds and gemstones goes down, i only have one destroyer staff because thats just about the best looking imo, now with lower prices i may just fill up the hom because i dont want to pay a shitload of cash for weapons that are utterly ugly.
If the skins where awesome id already have them all, but no!
If the skins where awesome id already have them all, but no!
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Quite how this VS farm is "destroying the economy" any more than the current standard 40 minute UW HM Clear, is unclear to me. Really, a 40 minute run where most ele's get at least 1 ecto before the chest, and then the chest drops too is seriously screwed up.
I do love the irony that since the Ursan nerf, suddenly just about everything can be cleared in under an hour. Yes, it requires skilled players. But, people learn fast when motivated by that level of greed.
As for gold item drops, there are plenty of places to find these quickly already.
I do love the irony that since the Ursan nerf, suddenly just about everything can be cleared in under an hour. Yes, it requires skilled players. But, people learn fast when motivated by that level of greed.
As for gold item drops, there are plenty of places to find these quickly already.
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Originally Posted by Nemesis of God
VS farm will affect economy, not by that spear drop, but by Onyx and diamond price. They were already cheap enough, but now. People, who have already got all destroyer weapons, sell them to trader, and they price drop, because no-one buys them, because all farm VS. So, people bought DW soon after GW:En, will lose around 10-35k/purchased weapon.
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Joe Fierce
Wilds Pathfinder
LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.
R/
Joined Feb 2007
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Mostly True. People are in fact still buying destroyer weapons. Despite the number of onyx and diamonds hitting the rare mat trader, they have dropped a bit slower then they could have. The reason I know people are buying them is by the granite slabs. Anyone notice they've one from 10g a pop to 6k per stack?
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well, i don't think anyone who is willing to pay for their destroyer weapons to complain if they wan them simply to fill their hall, that is a un-needed commodity, it is not a necessity, the diminishing in value of these weapons has no matter, I mean hell, i bought mine back he day eotn went live after the beta weekend and that cost me well over a mill, you don't see me crying because they've dropped drastically from that do you?
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...... Are you retarded?
Why would you want to promote discrimination between older players who abused things pre-nerf to get 100k and stacks of ecto, with the newer players who aren't able to buy anything because the items require insane grind and arrives are post-nerf?
Seriously, I cannot describe this fail.
Price drops are a good thing. And I bet that if you didn't play since 2006 or early 2007, you wouldn't be so "1337" you are today who sells items for insanely high prices not intended for GW in the first place. Hence the 100k limit!
Leave Onyx and Diamonds common. 1-2k is a fair price.
For the 10 diamonds and onyx, you are already paying 20k to craft destroyers weps. Thats just half the materials and not even the price to craft the weapon itself. And furthermore, destroyers weps aren't even that cool.
Before you flame me about being a noob, I would like to mentioned that I do indeed farm. I've slowly gotten all my Paragon elite armor. But 25 ecto and 100k is still insane for a single item!
Why would you want to promote discrimination between older players who abused things pre-nerf to get 100k and stacks of ecto, with the newer players who aren't able to buy anything because the items require insane grind and arrives are post-nerf?
Seriously, I cannot describe this fail.
Price drops are a good thing. And I bet that if you didn't play since 2006 or early 2007, you wouldn't be so "1337" you are today who sells items for insanely high prices not intended for GW in the first place. Hence the 100k limit!
Leave Onyx and Diamonds common. 1-2k is a fair price.
For the 10 diamonds and onyx, you are already paying 20k to craft destroyers weps. Thats just half the materials and not even the price to craft the weapon itself. And furthermore, destroyers weps aren't even that cool.
Before you flame me about being a noob, I would like to mentioned that I do indeed farm. I've slowly gotten all my Paragon elite armor. But 25 ecto and 100k is still insane for a single item!
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VS farm will affect economy, not by that spear drop, but by Onyx and diamond price. They were already cheap enough, but now. People, who have already got all destroyer weapons, sell them to trader, and they price drop, because no-one buys them, because all farm VS. So, people bought DW soon after GW:En, will lose around 10-35k/purchased weapon.
Another that will effect economy, is gold weapon's drop. Their price will 1) Drop, since people sell unid golds from VS. 2) Drop even harder, even indefed ones. From CofS you can get VS, Diamond aegis, Amethyst aegis, and iridescent aegis for example. These items price has dropped, and countitues dropping every day. Conclusion: VS, Amethyst Aegis and other fancy weapons, including DW, price will drop, but it won't cause big losses. Something what ANet could/should do: Remove wall only after every party member has opened dungeon chest. Let the flaming begin. |
Joe Fierce
Wilds Pathfinder
LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.
R/
Joined Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Nemesis of God
VS farm will affect economy, not by that spear drop, but by Onyx and diamond price. They were already cheap enough, but now. People, who have already got all destroyer weapons, sell them to trader, and they price drop, because no-one buys them, because all farm VS. So, people bought DW soon after GW:En, will lose around 10-35k/purchased weapon.
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Another that will effect economy, is gold weapon's drop.
Their price will 1) Drop, since people sell unid golds from VS. 2) Drop even harder, even indefed ones. From CofS you can get VS, Diamond aegis, Amethyst aegis, and iridescent aegis for example. These items price has dropped, and countitues dropping every day. |
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Originally Posted by Nemesis of God
Conclusion: VS, Amethyst Aegis and other fancy weapons, including DW, price will drop, but it won't cause big losses.
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Something what ANet could/should do: Remove wall only after every party member has opened dungeon chest.
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Let the flaming begin.
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In the end, you get to ask yourself why you worked so hard for something that isn't worth shit in real life. Skins are just flashy. Their meaning isn't so that you get the ability to curb stomp the fact that you have 'super cool weapons.'
For example: there's many owners of obsidian armor whose asses I have kicked before. So, rare skins for all. Voltaic spear isn't that great to me anyway. It's only popular because it's rare. I still use an elemental sword because I like it, even though it's worth as much as the merchant gives you for it. If crystalline was a common drop, I know for a fact it wouldn't be so idolized. It's ugly. It's only expensive because it hardly ever drops. Pathetic reason to keep it alive. Ugly things should be trashed, not cherished.
For example: there's many owners of obsidian armor whose asses I have kicked before. So, rare skins for all. Voltaic spear isn't that great to me anyway. It's only popular because it's rare. I still use an elemental sword because I like it, even though it's worth as much as the merchant gives you for it. If crystalline was a common drop, I know for a fact it wouldn't be so idolized. It's ugly. It's only expensive because it hardly ever drops. Pathetic reason to keep it alive. Ugly things should be trashed, not cherished.
Yeah, it's kinda annoying that earlier this summer I shelled out two weeks worth of z-keys for a VS and now people can get one in five minutes, but as most everyone agrees there is not an economy in GW per se, never really was either. To my knowledge the only firm stance anet has ever taken was combating bots that had an entirely artificial effect on prices. In the end it really doesn't matter though because everything needed to play PvE can be crafted at a fixed price and / or acquired from a collector with minimal effort.
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...now people can get one in five minutes
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its a bit like saying I shouldnt have worked hard for so many years, I could have just played the lottery and win millions
yes statistcly a chance for that happening exists...but we all know it wont happen :P
and R.Shayne dont worry I know what you mean, it took me a week to get my voltaic <I was doing it Hero&Hench way on NM with my assasin before it leaked>
oh and about the economy part, I dont see anything wrong with cool thing being cheap and thus affordable by many others
lets face it, there are many many players who are not good at making gold [making below 10K/Hour minimum wage :P ]
