Anet should decide and inform of HoM use in GW2

Lucia

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We all know that the Hall of Monuments (HoM) is the bridge between GW1 and GW2. Many players have played GW1 for years and are now stopping since they feel that they have "exhausted" the game. Many others are still playing and focusing on preparing for GW2 by expanding their HoM.

And now comes the problem. No one really knows what exactly each statue in the HoM will actually provide in GW2 (I believe that Anet themselves haven't yet decided). As far as I know, there has been a message that each weapon displayed in the HoM will be available in GW2 but I don't know if this is official or not.

displaying some statues requires an incredible amount of work and funds, specifically, obtaining and dedicating rare minipets (such as Yeti, Oni, Naga, Beetle, Zhed, etc.). Therefore, a very important question is:

Will dedicated minis be available in explorable areas and towns in GW2 or will they just be displayed in the HoM in GW2?

I know that this is not a democracy, and that Anet can do whatever they like. Nevertheless, I think that it is unfair that Anet are taking their time to decide and notify players of the HoM capacity in GW2. The mechanism has been introduced, utilizing it requires a lot of time and funds and the capacity of HoM in GW2 will directly affect each players decision as to if and how they want to fill their HoM. I also think that the past has shown that if enough people express their interest in something, Anet usually tries to help.

Opinions?

Shayne Hawke

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Personally, I wish I could get my mini Rollerbeetle back in GW2.

I very much doubt that's going to happen. With the amount of minis, armor sets, etc. that can be displayed and registered, I don't think ANet is going to be making exact replica or one-to-one rewards for things put into the HoM.

o, yeah. Here's a line saying that we'll get more information when ANet releases it and that we don't really need to ask these questions.

Vilaptca

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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Its not unfair. Its smart.

When's GW2 coming out again? Oh yeah, we don't really know yet. Anything they tell us is theoretical, all of it could change. If they just stay silent they won't have to deal with all the backlash when players start yelling about broken promises and betrayal.

Luminarus

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I think they should release more info about gw 2 because its been 18 months give or take since it was announced, and nothing has been released about it since then.

Whether this involves HoM or not I dont care, I just want something.

Kook~NBK~

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Join Date: Mar 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucia View Post
Will dedicated minis be available in explorable areas and towns in GW2 or will they just be displayed in the HoM in GW2?
Anything you display in Guild Wars(1) HoM is GW1 content. It will NOT be available in GW2. Anything you display in your HoM will unlock GW2 content for you. Whether those unlocks are same-name character specific or account-wide is a matter of speculation. My guess is that HoM unlocks will be account wide since A-Net is going that way with HoMs.

What exactly will be unlocked in GW2 for various achievements in GW1 is a matter of speculation. All that A-Net has said about it is that these unlocks will not give GW1 players an advantage over other players.

slowerpoke

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Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

hom is rather interesting.

a chance for us to pass achievements from our gw1 characters into the new game.

what exactly, noone knows. and will it be worth it for the amount of work to max some (or all) of the hom?

whatever it will be, its probably not going to give any advantage over players who are new to gw2/didnt max the hom. so more than likely it'll be different skins/objects of no value, something visual.

I doubt any object placed into the HoM will be directly passed onto GW2. With each monument unlocked, we'll probably gain one item, each one a related reward. So, probably a different companion for maxing out the Fellowship shrine, a weapon for the Valor, mini for Devotion, etc.

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

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the Netherlands

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Well, I would like to know what the HoM will do for me in GW2, but I can understand that they haven't told us yet.
I stopped working on my titles cause I really don't know what I'm doing it for, so that's why I would like to know. But since GW2 is obviously not done for a while yet it will be hard for them to give more exact info on how it will work out in GW2.
All in all GW1 is winding down for me personally, so I will have to see if I will play GW2 at all when it comes out, but hey, maybe the marketing will be convincing, but to me it's a worry for later, if at all.

Hyper.nl

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I'm not sure if ANet has decided about the outcome of the HoM yet.

Ben-A-BoO

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

I don't wanna know it before I enter my HoM in GW2.
Why should I care before and why should Anet announce it?

I don't expect GW2 to hit the stores before mid 2010. So why should they release detailed in game information so early?

If you need a straw to hold, so you don't bore yourself to death, then do yourself a favor and let it not be the HoM ... there is only disappointment for you in store.

EDIT: Oh and in the mean time you can read this: http://news.bigdownload.com/2008/08/...ries-announced

Daenara

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I can see it now. In 2 years from now, something about the HoM is different then what was suggested. The QQing begins. "Anet promised me an aura and a trail of shooting rockets for my dedicated Naga! " "They said that they were... " etc etc.

It's not feasible for them to tell us about a game which hasn't even released concept art, let alone screenshots of a beta, let alone close to release. Considering how quickly things can change, I would hate to be promised things when they're not set in stone.

Have some patience people! Don't dedicate your pets yet, and if it means that the price of your pet drops, well, you'll be playing GW2 by then anyway.

zwei2stein

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There are two options:

a) You get some fancy stuff that is useless. Emote, Mini, Whatever. In that case, who cares? Only OCD people now care about getting prophecies CE aura.

b) You get something usefull. Highend-ish weapon/armor on new character, skill you won't be able to learn untill much later, etc. Any of those will eventually get obsolete and serve only as headstart. In that case, who cares?

Of course, there might be c) Where HoM gives something that really makes difference, but designers should know better, because game reviewers won't let that slide.

So, there is no point in knowing what it will be because you are guaranteed it is not worth time you will spend on maxing HoM.

Free Runner

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Anet tell us something about the HoM, like perhaps you get wings for something -----> People take it in ------> Anet change these wings to hats later on down the line ------> People whine that the "wings" Anet promised would be available are not available -----> Mass QQing begins.

Anet are trying to avoid all that by not telling us a thing until they are certain its going to be permanant.

jamal555

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Yea, but since u cant get actual items... and bonus items for all in hom is just stupid coz u will have tons of it... it becames pointless...

i see devotion monument being looked at as a completed whole... and giving u 1 unlock for 20 minis... or 1 item or title or whatever... or effect like glowing for your pet... something

but i cant see Eternal Vanquisher giving u anything... coz there are so many titles... making unlock for each one is monumental part of the game... it would be hard just making it and incorporating into gw2... so that monument also would have to be looked as a whole... and that is just wrong.. the amount of hours u have to put in to get that maxed... is just mind boggling just to get 1 thing... i think this is the main problem with HoM and Anet... how can they give me something worth my while for the time spent in GW1 so that i'm satisfied, and not give me an advantage over new ppl in gw2...

personally i will be very angry if i get some glowing-crappy-hand-special-dance-ugly-skin-weapon thingie for hundreds of hours of pve... and 34 max titles... that would be just wrong... and i know many ppl that really wont play gw2 if they made ppl like us start as everyone else in the new game..., if they said HoM is the bridge, is important, make it so... make it count... make new gw2 players green and wanting to play gw1... and reward ppl that did believe it it since early betas...

ok give me 50% discount at merchants... thats ok, if new players want it... go play gw1 for a year or so... idk... or make me lvl faster in pve for pve titles and make me earn fame/champ/glad equvalent in gw2 faster based on my rank in gw1... thats ok... its not really an advantage... its a courtesy...

and not to mention pvp... i know its fun, but sometimes its just gets boring but u keep pushing for the last 1000 fame or points to get that rank... and what then... gw2 puts me in the same basket as the kid who picked it up yesterday... no way... i mean atleast pvp ranks should be rewarded with something special... i mean as long as anet is boosting their "this is a pvp game" attitude... which isnt since prophecies but ok...

my 2 cents...

Aera

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AAaaaaaaaah ffs people just be patient for once! It's not like there's going to be any more info once you created threads like this -_-

Luminarus

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AAaaaaaaaah ffs people just be patient for once! It's not like there's going to be any more info once you created threads like this -_-
How long is patient... fine within 3-4 months of the announcement is impatient, maybe even up to 6 months... but nearly 18 months is insane. Initially beta was meant to be coming up soon, it said late 08. Yes i know it got delayed, and all that shit.

But 18 months and all they have said for certain is that the HoM in GW2 is account wide. Everything else they said was already essentially said in the announcements. If after 18 months they barely even have concept art, I am extremely disappointed. When it was announced I was like I am soo getting that. But given 18 months of waiting for an update, and not getting one I am just giving up.

I think we have been more then patient, and I normally dont have a biff with most of the way anet handles this stuff... but plz get off ur f*&^ing asses, and release SOMETHING.

Lucia

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Join Date: Dec 2006

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It seems people are intent on trying to explain why Anet isn't giving out information - They don't want to commit, they don't want to have to break promises they make now, they don't know, etc.

I accept and respect all of these reasons. Nevertheless, in my book, if they have released a mechanism, they should explain and commit to everything about it

For the record, I'd rather they make promises now and later break them if it doesn't work out, at least we'd understand what they have in mind, and if later they don't manage to implement it, that's OK.

I think a good analogy to this situation is that of taking a job (playing GW1) without knowing your salary (HoM capacity in GW2), where your employer (Anet) reveals the height of your salary only at (or near) payday (GW2 release), would anyone be willing to work under these conditions?

zwei2stein

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Originally Posted by jamal555 View Post
ok give me 50% discount at merchants... thats ok, if new players want it... go play gw1 for a year or so... idk... or make me lvl faster in pve for pve titles and make me earn fame/champ/glad equvalent in gw2 faster based on my rank in gw1... thats ok... its not really an advantage... its a courtesy...
I can already see reviews.

(cue in zero punctuation style)

"... And by the way, every so often you will notice that guy who was like ten levels lower than you begging for gold ... them got up to twice your level rich beyond your nerdy dreams. That would be not failure of your fat nerdy ass to have no life, it is because he got something for hall of monuments which is something like your moms shrine of your only A+ test. Now, to get this boost not only you have to shell hundered buck and wait couple of months before package arrives to australia, you also have to spend freaking year playing some other random game which is already beyond dead. At least korean ememoorpegees have decency to bill you for such stuff that is supposed to eas grind only by money and not other grind. Now, if you are glob of lard nerd that spend some time playing that other random game and had fun there, good for you, but do not make me play it too so that i can join your social club of "having twice level of average australian" ..."

Shadowspawn X

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucia View Post

Will dedicated minis be available in explorable areas and towns in GW2 or will they just be displayed in the HoM in GW2?
Opinions?
No interest here, just play your game and let the chips fall where they may. You want some kind of guarantee? Then you lose.

newbie_of_doom

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilaptca View Post
Its not unfair. Its smart.

When's GW2 coming out again? Oh yeah, we don't really know yet. Anything they tell us is theoretical, all of it could change. If they just stay silent they won't have to deal with all the backlash when players start yelling about broken promises and betrayal.
Wow you called Anet smart. Wowie. /shocked

Okay, post time.

Guess all the skins will be available for purchase in end-game. Just guessing again tho. And emotes would be spammable, or at least i hope so. ZRANK iz very good.

BenjZee

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they don't have to tell us anything of these so called 'benefits' after all they are optional and no ones forcing you to fill the HoM.

sindex

sindex

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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I think there are those who see that HoM will be a “gold mine” for GW 2 and others like myself who actually expects it to fail in every possible way. Come on people this is A-net we are talking about here, in which their reward system is pure and under crap. Plus I don’t expect any info on GW till it actually is just out of it’s beta phase in probably early 2011. No, I doubt in the next two years we will remotely see anything new on GW 2 except for the past information that was handed down to us. They probably have yet to implement half of the features they have mentioned in the past articles yet. I blame their lofty goals, which they set for themselves.

the lesser

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from what i have heard (wiki i think i saw it on), destroyer weapons and tormented weapons will be available for use on your gw2 character, i dont believe all of them will, seeing as you can put alot on display, you will probably be able to choose one set from your hom.

and watching the ending of eotn the other day i got the idea that your character will live on being that your gw2 characters will be descendants, which makes sense passing a sword an shield or something down your family line.

how this will work for non-human characters i can only guess. and notice this is just hearsay and speculation.

and btw, it always amazes me how some of you love to shit on a-net. stop playing guild wars then, talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

fireflyry

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Sure it would be nice to know as I for one can't be bothered with HoM at all.Knowledge of the rewards may motivate me to grind aspects of it....doubtful but maybe.

In saying it seems pretty obvious why they won't release info on it for a bit.

Would you grind out HoM for something you didn't want?

Exactly.

It's the mystery and lack of knowledge that keeps many players motivated to fill up the HoM, remove that and what the heck will they focus on for the next 18 months?

I'm betting the rewards will be a let down for the majority of those with full halls.Anyone would want to delay that QQ.

tmakinen

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ANet has quite clearly stated that all you'll ever get out of HoM is bling. Is there anything else that one should know? Like, is it quality bling? Does that matter, bling is bling.

Lycan Nibbler

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By the time GW2 is out, everyone will have the same bling anyway

Stuart444

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilaptca View Post
Its not unfair. Its smart.

When's GW2 coming out again? Oh yeah, we don't really know yet. Anything they tell us is theoretical, all of it could change. If they just stay silent they won't have to deal with all the backlash when players start yelling about broken promises and betrayal.
tbh, this is what I was thinking when I read the opening post.

Laughing Bat

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Seeing as gaile once compared the hom rewards to the 1st year hats I really don't see why its so important for you to know now. I'd like some gw2 info but hom is probably the least thing I'm worried about.

The thing I'm most looking forward to about the hom is all of the people who completely ignored anet's description of it and then get pissed off because they grinded 30+ titles or whatever and then don't have anything but a shiny hat to show for it in gw2. Should of gotten a real job, it would of paid better .

Stolen Souls

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Yeah, they aren't required to tell us anything. Everything IS still speculation. What I believe (MY speculation) is that maxing a certain monument will unlock a similar reward in GW2 (max the minipet monument in GW1 and get a special minipet in GW2, max the hero monument in GW1 and get a special sidekick in GW2, max the weapon monument in GW1 and get a special "/bonus" weapon in GW2, max the armor monument in GW1 and get a special hat/headpiece in GW2, max PvP stuff in GW1 and get an emote in GW2...etc.

Nothing will carry DIRECTLY over. (Putting your mini panda in the GW1 HoM will not give you the mini panda in GW2. You will not have all those Tormented/Destroyer weapons available in GW2, etc.)

I have a feeling a lot of people are gonna be really disappointed when GW2 comes out, in all honesty. But we shall see.

^again, that is all just my speculation...

Taixen

Taixen

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I am happy to wait for GW2s release to see exactly what we'll get for a full HoM.

Whatever the reward/benefit will be it'll be something that you'd have not otherwise had.

So, if people who WANT to waste so many hours of their lives complain, more fool them for not embracing the outside world more ^^

Thargor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

It really does not matter if they tell us anything or not.
There is only one thing that is guaranteed to happen when GW2 comes out, A LOT of QQ'ing.
They could give us nothing and people will cry, or they could give us a bag of everlasting plat and people will cry because they were to lazy to fill their hall.
QQ'ing is the one thing that is always guaranteed with the GW fanbase, no matter what anet does.

kratimas

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucia View Post
We all know that the Hall of Monuments (HoM) is the bridge between GW1 and GW2. Many players have played GW1 for years and are now stopping since they feel that they have "exhausted" the game. Many others are still playing and focusing on preparing for GW2 by expanding their HoM.

And now comes the problem. Blah blah blah............

Nevertheless, I think that it is unfair that Anet are taking their time to decide and notify players of the HoM capacity in GW2.

This statement made me LOL @ You!

Opinions?

This is a pretty stupid thread.

Who cares what you get? If you have nothing better to do with your time then "fill" your HoM then that is your choice. You are not going to get anything that gives you an advantage over other players.

So, if you feel that grinding for hours and hours and hours and hours and..... for a skin is worth using your time then have at it, but please stop creating stupid threads saying ANet needs to let us know blah blah blah. Its your choice "Make it and deal with it!"

It really is that simple!

Lucia

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Join Date: Dec 2006

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Originally Posted by kratimas View Post

This is a pretty stupid thread.

Who cares what you get?
I respect your opinion, but jeez, can't you be polite about it?

You are entitled to believe what you like, others (including myself) may disagree with you, but I still won't call your post "stupid".

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

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Clearly this thread is a matter of speculation. One thing is certain, NOTHING you put in HoM will give you any kind of advantage in GW2. That may (and should) very well include stuff you can sell as that will give you a clear financial advantage.

Think BMP-like stuff.

Stuart444

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There is one thing we can all be certain of though, GW2 will have difference Races ^_^, I'm more excited about playing different races besides humans than anything related to the HoM >_>

Orange Milk

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Simple "Supply and Demand"

Currently by ANet not telling us whats going to happen they have created a "Demand" for a "Supply" that is not even know yet. And that, my friends, is what you want in business.

IF they tell us whats going to happen and some folks don't like or don't care about what the HoM leads to then they lose some of the Demand. Sure there is also a chance that releasing information will lead to a higher demand. But the "aura" of the unknow is a much greater selling point at this time.

Shadowmoon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Laughing Bat View Post
The thing I'm most looking forward to about the hom is all of the people who completely ignored anet's description of it and then get pissed off because they grinded 30+ titles or whatever and then don't have anything but a shiny hat to show for it in gw2. Should of gotten a real job, it would of paid better .
If they give the people with 30+ titles divine aura in gw2, i'd consider it time well spent. I understand it only cometic, but everything is this game is cosmetic. 400e e-blades have the same stats as the 100g blue swords. And that what i hope gw stays with functionality is cheap, and vansity is expensive.

Darcy

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How about a "Descendant of a Hero" title track? Max your HoM and you get rank 10 to flash around.

I think that is more the type of reward ANet will be giving to GW players. Anything else that is physical -- including customized minis, weapon skins, emotes, auras, etc. -- will cause huge amounts of screaming and "I wants" from the GW2 players.

Remember BMP - how it was only for people who spent a certain amount of real world money in the online store? Remember the screams from the people who didn't fulfill the requirements? Remember the solution? Anyone can buy the BMP.

The only way to avoid the same type of situation in GW2 over the HoM reward is to make it something that cannot be separately reproduced for the wannabes. While at one point last year, it was mentioned in an interview that HoM rewards would have a cutoff date (within months of intro of GW2) and future HoMs would not give any reward in GW2, I take that with a grain of salt.

But as long as the same amount of effort has to be expended, I won't care.

4thVariety

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Players now hunt for items to display how unique they are and that they are better. Check out my armor, I'm cooler, check my emote, I'm better, check my title I grind harder. All that will get reset upon the release of GW2 and nothing you can quick import by means of the HoM will restore those street-credits. New loot and stuff will do that! Things which are not connected to GW1.

Having said that, the HoM is an incentive for people to buy GW2. In order for that incentive to really work it will be most likely be granted to as many people as possible. It will also be something that takes reasonable time to develop. Anet will most likely not carry 1000 skins over into the new game.

Players will get their unique visual reward as promised in interviews past. The meaning of that should be obvious to anyone. There is one set of equipment for the veteran players. One special armor, one special skins set for weapons, one minipet one hero and/or pet and maybe some green text below your name. Beyond that anything is a waste of time. People should play GW2 for its rewards, not for the reward you import from the old game. The HoM items in GW2 will neither make you wealthy nor will they grant you any more respect (which they are also not doing right not, regardless how long you idle around in towns showing off.)

Skyy High

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I still think they'll be shooting themselves in the foot if they reward, for example, a minipet monument filled with nagas and vizus in the same manner as one filled with devourers and trolls. Individualized rewards may not be feasible, but there needs to be some hierarchy of rewards based on the rarities and value of weapons/armor/minis/titles placed in the Hall. Without such a hierarchy, it's really not a way of transferring your accomplishments from GW1 to GW2, as they said it would be...it's just a generic "Did you play GW1? Grats, here's your mini." unlock mechanic, which is certainly not as epic as they've implied it would be.

Ravious

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Originally Posted by Skyy High View Post
I still think they'll be shooting themselves in the foot if they reward, for example, a minipet monument filled with nagas and vizus in the same manner as one filled with devourers and trolls. Individualized rewards may not be feasible, but there needs to be some hierarchy of rewards based on the rarities and value of weapons/armor/minis/titles placed in the Hall. Without such a hierarchy, it's really not a way of transferring your accomplishments from GW1 to GW2, as they said it would be...it's just a generic "Did you play GW1? Grats, here's your mini." unlock mechanic, which is certainly not as epic as they've implied it would be.

I have three things:

1. A hierarchy would be nice, but I doubt its going to happen. If you flatline everything (e.g. every mini is worth 1 point, every hero is worth 1 point, every title is worth 1 point) then you will get it as fair as you can. People will complain, but much less than if you tried to attribute some distinct value to everything.

2. Knowing a little about game development (not much though), they probably have some concrete ideas for the rewards, but that concrete is likely no where near setting yet. Things change. Sure, GW1 minis might give GW2 minis easy enough, but it seems like ANet is building up towards a heaven-shaking, plasma light beam hadouken of information for GW2, which leads me to:

3. I think ANet understands their business model really well. Unfortunately this arcane voodoo of marketing makes no sense to the more hardcore, but they are nearing 6 million sales. An ace in the hole is definitely the transfer of epeen across to the sequel. When they drop the bomb I expect servers and sales to spike. If it just leaks slowly out as they have the information re HoM... well I think marketing thinks/knows that the sales spike will not be as great.