DoA HM psyko-way

these guys spam cry...they lose 30 in an instant, they have the perfect skill for maintaining energy, it is perpetual and if you have that then why try something else?

ether renewal is best for this.
ER wastes spot for 2 other useful skills.

Learn to ele, then talk please.

I love ER builds, but if you have ever used EP with cry, then you will not have contested.

Oh, and the two reserved spots can be a Ebon Ward (each ele brings 1 type), and Inspired Hex (to remove any hexes that might have been caught by *mistake*). Finally, energy blast should be replaced with GoLE.

ER wastes spot for 2 other useful skills.

Oh, and the two reserved spots can be a Ebon Ward (each ele brings 1 type). Ebon battle standard of honor does not work with cry of pain.

best time: 3 areas down 1h10 with foundry left, died in 2nd room cos they spawn right on top of us lol, pissed me off same thing with us last night testing build, but it was at 1h45 on our first test. There is a way to avoid this, changing the healing monk secoundary, but without a bip it would probably suck for the rest of the run with no e-management.

ER wastes spot for 2 other useful skills.

Learn to ele, then talk please.

I love ER builds, but if you have ever used EP with cry, then you will not have contested.

Oh, and the two reserved spots can be a Ebon Ward (each ele brings 1 type), and Inspired Hex (to remove any hexes that might have been caught by *mistake*). Finally, energy blast should be replaced with GoLE. both me and czfengs team has massive exp in DoA and im sure that if EP was better it would be on the bar, infinite energy from ER is still infinite energy, no need for GoLE nor ether prism. There is no need for inspired hex neither, these guys rush through mobs as fast as they can, they dont wanna be standing around casting wards etc, or wasting slots on non-dmg skills, the only thing that i can think of that would improve the bar is intensity and maybe the asuran ward which makes skills recharge faster which i wouldnt use as it slows you down

still major flaw in this build is room 2 foundry, you totally are helpless to the spawn, and you have no escape mechanism, anya, i'm really curious how your groups handle room 2, see how u have diffent builds than him. we scatter...3 people near the entrance and 3 near the door where 3 man spam their spirits, pre prot spirit on people and just make sure your caller is always calling appropriately, first target should always been the dryders and try and save cry for interupts.
monks should have glyph already used just as the mob spawns so they can spam 2 heal parties without it affecting their energy. this shouldnt take long if your cryers have nice ranks
EDIT: his monk builds are a little different than the ones i use, my bonder is much much more versatile

ok so one of the groups will get aggro no matter what, see how i've never seen a spawn where both safe spots are actually safe, always one is screwed. Just wondering what your failure rate at this. We always gate jump to prevent wipes. Of course your casters are more hearty than our casters. try and squeeze prot spirit onto both monk bars and make a more effective bonder ( tweak build ). if you have one of your squishies standing blatantly in aggro you can prot him up and stand him infront of your healer monk, out of range so that SF doesnt scatter to other team members.
but most effective way off solving this is alert cryers. they have the power too mass interupt, this room is down to them tbh

EDIT: its not always the case that a group will be ownt by the dryders, just depends on the spawn but if you get one cryer to spam c+cry of pain button until they spawn that will give you the edge and take away the "surpise!! you dead!!!" factor

EDIT AGAIN: sorry, lol...his bonder build aint so good because even with ether sig you cant maintain life barrier on your casters and ideally you dont want your casters taking dmg especially the monks (the germans never had this problem with their build)

CoP is the only play Mesmers ever get; a nerf to that would remove PvE mesmers from any play. there is always space for a mesmer in any team. no one single char can mess up a single target like a mesmer can, mesmers can own any boss in pve with ease without the use of cry (barring mallyx and the like)

there is always space for a mesmer in any team. no one single char can mess up a single target like a mesmer can, mesmers can own any boss in pve with ease without the use of cry (barring mallyx and the like) Problem is that people don't care. If you don't make big numbers (elementalist), tank (warrior), or heal (monk), then you're useless according to all the dumb people out there. There are a lot of dumb people on the internet.

Problem is that people don't care. If you don't make big numbers (elementalist), tank (warrior), or heal (monk), then you're useless according to all the dumb people out there. There are a lot of dumb people on the internet. I find this amusing, yet sadly true.

Ebon battle standard of honor does not work with cry of pain. battle standard of wisdom does and would be great for cry, especially if you have echo+arcane echo

there is always space for a mesmer in any team. no one single char can mess up a single target like a mesmer can, mesmers can own any boss in pve with ease without the use of cry (barring mallyx and the like) This is idiocy. If we're talking shutdown, there is nothing in PvE that a Mesmer can do that a Ranger cannot do better.

You can't Divert monster skills. Bosses have gargantuan energy pools, so you can't pressure the pool out. Good mesmer interrupts have lengthy recharges, so you have to dedicate a larger proportion of your bar to interrupting. You need to dedicate skills to energy management, as you don't have a primary attribute that solves that problem for you.

The Ranger does all those things and simultaneously brings big damage condition pressure to the party. You can't spam damage and interrupt camp at the same time with a Mesmer. You pick one or the other.

While Mesmer is easily the strongest offensive class in PvP, there is a reason people tell you that they are terrible in PvE. Just because you enjoy playing it and it gets the job done does NOT mean it is the most efficient solution. You just get away with running a suboptimal class because PvE is easy.