Currently DoA is dead, and it has been since the Ursan nerf. I found DoA fun, with or without ursan, as well as a good source of money. I am fortunate enough to be in a alliance that does DoA and other areas. However, it is extremely rare to find pugs for these. The only two other places that have a 12 person party are the Deep and Urgoz, both elite missions like DoA. These aren't that busy either, but it is still possible to get a non-guild pug.
I feel that if DoA was changed from 8 man to 12 man, or somewhere in between, it would give more teams a greater chance in forming. What do you guys think?
DoA to 12 Man?
Mesmer in Need
Tyla
Well it's already easy if you understand aggro patterns and the people you're playing with aren't complete failures. (This is outside of Tank 'N' Spank, by the way)
I'm not really sure this'll be the spark that will ignite DoA again though. All of the elite areas are dead, atleast from what I hear. If you ask me, the problem behind this is the incentive from those areas and not the difficulty.
I'm not really sure this'll be the spark that will ignite DoA again though. All of the elite areas are dead, atleast from what I hear. If you ask me, the problem behind this is the incentive from those areas and not the difficulty.
Elle Bishop
I would try to do DOA again if the party size was increased.
zelgadissan
^ What Tyla said. It's not hard, it's just dead because nobody wants to do it.
Better rewards would be a better choice than more people.
Better rewards would be a better choice than more people.
Dr.Jones
its hardenough as it is to get 12 people to do the deep i think this would be the same.
Miska Bow
Just wait till the price for a Voltaic spear drops to a few k. DoA will relive then.
Elle Bishop
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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones
its hardenough as it is to get 12 people to do the deep i think this would be the same.
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Lycan Nibbler
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Originally Posted by Elle Bishop
I think that if you could have 12 people in a party more people would do the run because it would be quicker and easier.
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Elle Bishop
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Originally Posted by Miss Drops Az
Doesnt that just make it a non elite area???? as it was designed for 8 person teams....
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Demonstar
Ahhh... when elite areas were worthy of the elite status... Remember when a Margonite Ele could kill you in one hit?
Those were the days.....
Those were the days.....
Zahr Dalsk
DoA is dead?
See, another reason why full hero parties would be nice
Anyways - no, don't raise it to 12. Not necessary.
See, another reason why full hero parties would be nice
Anyways - no, don't raise it to 12. Not necessary.
Betrayer_Of_Wind
More people is just overkill.
and anyway,i would need 2 partners to do it with heroes instead of just 1 :P
I think pugs can be doable tho,its just people were so used to ursan that now they just cant do anything without that shit
and anyway,i would need 2 partners to do it with heroes instead of just 1 :P
I think pugs can be doable tho,its just people were so used to ursan that now they just cant do anything without that shit
zwei2stein
just wait for HoM update which will allow tormented weapons to be added.
liutpry
Better rewards would be smarter to bring people back to DoA, more people partyes would only make the area more laughable than it is
romeus petrus
LOL, no. It is easy enough with an 8 man team.
DarkGanni
Voted Yes.
However I don't think it will revive it like the ursan days as most common players don't have an idea what builds to run.
Worth a shot imo.
- Ganni
However I don't think it will revive it like the ursan days as most common players don't have an idea what builds to run.
Worth a shot imo.
- Ganni
idicious
Would be pure overkill, easy enough with 8 man team, NM and HM.
MagmaRed
You are having trouble finding 7 other people to do DoA, so your solution is to make people find 11 others instead?
Doesn't make much sense to me. Area is dead, and it is hard to find a team, so lets make the team size bigger. That will make it harder to form a team, not easier.
Doesn't make much sense to me. Area is dead, and it is hard to find a team, so lets make the team size bigger. That will make it harder to form a team, not easier.
Cale Roughstar
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Originally Posted by MagmaRed
You are having trouble finding 7 other people to do DoA, so your solution is to make people find 11 others instead?
Doesn't make much sense to me. Area is dead, and it is hard to find a team, so lets make the team size bigger. That will make it harder to form a team, not easier. |
ilmassacratore
MY IDEA
Change Ursan (IN A SPECIAL SKILL for only Elite Zone): DoA , UW , FoW , Urgoz , Deep and Duncan .
SPECIAL SKILL:
Ursan becomes maximum damage only in the Elite Area.
And the time period increases.
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12 people would improve this area---> i think is't a bed idea , it's very hard for make a team .....
lfg Full run DoA 2/12 LOL (and if people left the team in the run ?)
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URSAN PROBLEM ---> easier maxare titles, the problem would become if only for an elite skill areas?
Change Ursan (IN A SPECIAL SKILL for only Elite Zone): DoA , UW , FoW , Urgoz , Deep and Duncan .
SPECIAL SKILL:
Ursan becomes maximum damage only in the Elite Area.
And the time period increases.
/***********************/
12 people would improve this area---> i think is't a bed idea , it's very hard for make a team .....
lfg Full run DoA 2/12 LOL (and if people left the team in the run ?)
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URSAN PROBLEM ---> easier maxare titles, the problem would become if only for an elite skill areas?
zelgadissan
^ Worst idea I have ever seen.
Horus
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Originally Posted by zelgadissan
^ Worst idea I have ever seen.
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QFT
seriously, elite areas are there to be a challenge and not to get trough them by smashing 3 buttons, get over it...
ilmassacratore
If it is a challenge that remains better as it is now ...
I really do not have problems.
DoA is for 8 people .
I really do not have problems.
DoA is for 8 people .
Arkantos
FoW and UW HM are really hard for me, I think they should be 12 man.
No. God no. Stop trying to make this easy game easier. I'd rather DoA be dead for pugs than DoA be amazingly easy. I was surprised to see that the poster of this thread wasn't...well, I'm sure everyone knows who I'm talking about.
Oh, once again,
NO!
No. God no. Stop trying to make this easy game easier. I'd rather DoA be dead for pugs than DoA be amazingly easy. I was surprised to see that the poster of this thread wasn't...well, I'm sure everyone knows who I'm talking about.
Oh, once again,
NO!
Yawgmoth
Completely unneeded change. It's fine as it is... it was designed for 8-man teams and it's possible to complete it with 2man+6heroes...
increasing party size won't make DoA more popular or easier to make complete successful teams. Big party brings more problems too, more afkers/leechers (team of 10 will just continue without waitning for 2 leechers), more random people = bigger chance for someone screwing up entire run... bad idea, just bad.
increasing party size won't make DoA more popular or easier to make complete successful teams. Big party brings more problems too, more afkers/leechers (team of 10 will just continue without waitning for 2 leechers), more random people = bigger chance for someone screwing up entire run... bad idea, just bad.
tipiak
For the god of love NOES !
It's the last "hard" elite zone in the game, don't kill it with a 12-people party.
It's the last "hard" elite zone in the game, don't kill it with a 12-people party.
Joe Fierce
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For the god of love NOES !
It's the last "hard" elite zone in the game, don't kill it with a 12-people party. |
and sad part is, iisn't even that hard.
Arkantos
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and sad part is, iisn't even that hard. |
MisterB
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
FoW and UW HM are really hard for me, I think they should be 12 man.
No. God no. Stop trying to make this easy game easier. I'd rather DoA be dead for pugs than DoA be amazingly easy. I was surprised to see that the poster of this thread wasn't...well, I'm sure everyone knows who I'm talking about. Oh, once again, NO! |
I agree with MagmaRed's post, in its entirety.
Also, PuGs can easily play 8 man in NM. More experienced players should be able to do HM, and it should remain that way.
viper11025
id like it
Add more rewards like rare skins to the end chest and random coffer drops in it XD
Add more rewards like rare skins to the end chest and random coffer drops in it XD
Arkantos
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id like it
Add more rewards like rare skins to the end chest and random coffer drops in it XD |
I always thought the harder the area = the better the reward, not the easier.
Racthoh
If PvE skills didn't exist.
If consumables didn't exist.
If the environmental effects were put back into play for normal mode.
Enraged un-nerfed.
Bug in City fixed.
Whatever it is players do in Foundry to hide the Forgotten from the Black Beast so they don't have to worry about their safety.
Everything that allows players to kill Mallyx from outside the environmental effects.
Then... maybe.
If consumables didn't exist.
If the environmental effects were put back into play for normal mode.
Enraged un-nerfed.
Bug in City fixed.
Whatever it is players do in Foundry to hide the Forgotten from the Black Beast so they don't have to worry about their safety.
Everything that allows players to kill Mallyx from outside the environmental effects.
Then... maybe.
Numa Pompilius
Hahaha... I think having 7 heroes would do more to revive the elite areas.
bungusmaximus
The pve aspect of GW is pretty much dead, shame, I used to like PUGing. I don't know a fix in the world that can prevent people from just getting bored with a game.
Div
I say we increase all "elite" 8-man zones to 12, and 12-man zones to 16. Not like the economy can be even more dead :P
N1ghtstalker
we seriously need something new in GW
new elite area with a weapon design contest maybe
oh and /notsigned for bringing back ursan
all classes are usable in PvE if you think about it
*cough*AP CoP mesmer*cough*
new elite area with a weapon design contest maybe
oh and /notsigned for bringing back ursan
all classes are usable in PvE if you think about it
*cough*AP CoP mesmer*cough*
bungusmaximus
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*cough*AP CoP mesmer*cough*
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N1ghtstalker
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Strength of Honor SoJ mesmer in shards of orr lololol
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Luminarus
What would be nice imo, would be to give a random gold drop at the end of each area, making it like a dungeon.
The reason it is dead is that pugs cant complete it easily/quickly, and the rewards arent that great for a long haul. If you can complete stygian veil in an hr (hm) and get a gold drop, it would become like a dungeon, and imo more popular.
The other option I can see is add henchmen to the elite outposts Deep/Urgoz/DoA so that you dont have to pug. Atm its impossible to do anything there apart from dual heroes pug or alliance. If you could fill out ur party with crappy henchies, atleast then the random player could slowly take it through, will be difficult, but it can work.
The reason it is dead is that pugs cant complete it easily/quickly, and the rewards arent that great for a long haul. If you can complete stygian veil in an hr (hm) and get a gold drop, it would become like a dungeon, and imo more popular.
The other option I can see is add henchmen to the elite outposts Deep/Urgoz/DoA so that you dont have to pug. Atm its impossible to do anything there apart from dual heroes pug or alliance. If you could fill out ur party with crappy henchies, atleast then the random player could slowly take it through, will be difficult, but it can work.
The Little Viking
12 in DoA is and always has been unnecessary. in the beginning (before the birth of Ursans) it was done easily with 8, and still is today. In fact, you dont need a full group of real people to make it all the way through as it is. I go there and finish on a regular basis with a party of 2 people and the rest heros. So 12 in DoA? absolutely not.