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Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

30 Sep 2008 at 14:56 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker

i think it's pretty clear with my and your example that mesmer's are quite good in PvE and PvP seeing the power and popularity of CoP

/Me, Mind Wrack. Any professions can run CoP in a spike group, and it would only lose what, 20 DPS? I wouldn't take EN on my Mesmers in a Cryway group.

That's a different thread anyway, but if you really want to debate that take it to The Campfire, kk?

Tha Axod

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/Me

30 Sep 2008 at 18:54 - 42

it would make it too easy
uw and fow are also do-able with 8 man,
so no from me

Mordiego

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2007

Pozna??, UTC+1

We Are From Poland [Pol]

N/A

01 Oct 2008 at 12:56 - 43

this month's scheduled update introduces Tormented weapons display in HoM... thus DoA will liven up definitelly.
/not signed. it's easy the way it is

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

04 Oct 2008 at 03:50 - 44

Voted yes, but don't think anything they can do will bring it back from the post ursan neft slowdown.

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

04 Oct 2008 at 04:32 - 45

I voted before, but I will say this now:

Let's wait for the Tormented Weapon update before we go changing DoA to make it more lively.

I hope no change is needed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tha Axod

it would make it too easy
uw and fow are also do-able with 8 man,
so no from me

It wouldn't really make it too easy. And DoA is much harder then UW and FoW. Also, Urgoz and Deep have 12 man teams, but are easier then DoA (if you know what your doing in all three missions, Urgoz/Deep=easier). The UW/FoW argument is worthless because of Urgoz, Deep, Sorrow's Furnace, Tombs, and Slavers'

All elite missions that have things UW, FoW, and DoA don't have (12 man teams or henchmen to fill up teams).

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

04 Oct 2008 at 04:34 - 46

If they made DoA 12 man, they'd just rebalance it by adding more foes.

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

04 Oct 2008 at 05:17 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

It wouldn't really make it too easy.

DoA is already a joke. You can easily complete an entire run in NM with a party mainly consisting of Heroes, and HM is just a matter of adding TNTF, SY, and SoL to your team. If you could take twelve people in at once, you'd be able to clear the entire place in less than an hour and a half with ease. Better players could roll through it in less than an hour, no problem.

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

04 Oct 2008 at 06:08 - 48

No. It is just tedious as it is, not hard. If your group is semi intelligent, it is not an issue. Leave it 8 man.

R_Frost

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

Me/

04 Oct 2008 at 14:02 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tha Axod

it would make it too easy

and ursan before the nerf didnt? i can see the benefits of a max party of 12, it would give the team build a few more options. no one said you actually had to use all 12 player slots either. back before ursan came along i had thought anet screwed up by making it an 8 man party area. if you werent a warrior,ele,necro or monk you couldnt get into the average group and most of the time clearing an area took along time and there was pretty much a basic team build that was used. 12 would of shortened the area clearing time similar to ursan before nerf and maybe would of gotten a few more professions into the team build without some gimicky build. now with the changes what really will make a difference? 12 man party or 7 heros? with the current state of the game........7 heros

Destro Maniak

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

A/

04 Oct 2008 at 22:00 - 50

the thing that shouldda be done is to reduce party size to 4 man
THAT will make pugs easier

OFc reduce number of foes too

Joe Fierce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

Disconnect the fascination

LF High End PvE Guild that's not filled with elitists.

R/

05 Oct 2008 at 06:36 - 51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

Well, it can get quite challenging in hard mode. But God forbid something in the game is challenging, right?

well i guess that's kinda dependant on what build you're running, i don't see much of a difference with the builds i generally run, besides the gem drops of course :3

baltazar knight

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2007

Belgium

The Myth of Phoenix [Myth]

W/

05 Oct 2008 at 11:47 - 52

DoA is doable it's dead for Pugs,so if pugs wanna do DoA then they have to join a guild

/notsigned

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

05 Oct 2008 at 12:44 - 53

/notsigned:
Group of good players can do it easy now.
Group of bad players couldn't do it with 30 people.

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

06 Oct 2008 at 00:46 - 54

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarklingKiller

GW is dead in general. The glory days of the PuG is in the past. It's either heroes, friends, guildies or gtfo.

Fixed for you.

But yeah, pugs are dead.

Whirlwind

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Wolven Empire

D/

06 Oct 2008 at 01:00 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need

Currently DoA is dead, and it has been since the Ursan nerf. I found DoA fun, with or without ursan, as well as a good source of money. I am fortunate enough to be in a alliance that does DoA and other areas. However, it is extremely rare to find pugs for these. The only two other places that have a 12 person party are the Deep and Urgoz, both elite missions like DoA. These aren't that busy either, but it is still possible to get a non-guild pug.

I feel that if DoA was changed from 8 man to 12 man, or somewhere in between, it would give more teams a greater chance in forming. What do you guys think?

You can't just start changing group size to compinsate for areas that really hard or too easy. Obviously DoA can be done with 8 people and has been thousands of times. Before and after ursan.

newbie_of_doom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

WTFPRIVACYDUDE

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

W/Mo

07 Oct 2008 at 09:49 - 56

I herd people actually cleared doa before the spirit of the bear was there!!!!!1!!!!! Ofcourse idk it must have been like cheats andstuff but u can still use them

(since when cant you post in all caps?)