Discarded Mesmer model

Calaval

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I was looking at www.guildwars.com using the way back machine and came across this screenshot.

The armor looks great and I guess it was possibly used for a mesmer. I wonder why it was never used for players or even an npc.




Source: http://web.archive.org/web/200404090...ots/gw024.html

Artisan Archer

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Looks more like a prophecies ranger to me..

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Honestly, looking at it, I'm glad that was never in game...

[Morkai]

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Looks similar to EotN ele armors mirite?

Numa Pompilius

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The model isn't too great (I don't think that face is in the game), but I like the armor.

EDIT: the screenshot has heavy bloom, so it's probably from EotN.

Calaval

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius View Post
The model isn't too great (I don't think that face is in the game), but I like the armor.

EDIT: the screenshot has heavy bloom, so it's probably from EotN.
Follow the source link, its from 2004.

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2004 even?
In the link i see the date 2004/04/09, though there's some random numbers after it so i might be just paranoid.

AAH THE NUMBER 21 IT'S EVERYWHERE!!

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That pic was taken in the jungle

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I know mesmers have skirts but that is too small even for FoW standards.

Thats most likely a (better) Ele model. One that doesnt stand all awkward, like it's about to fall over but isnt quite making it.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Calaval View Post
Follow the source link, its from 2004.
"Sorry, Failed to connect to server" but I'll take your word for it.

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Makes me think of mesmer monument...

At any rate, not that big a loss. Its not a great armor, and its a horrible face.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Artisan Archer View Post
Looks more like a prophecies ranger to me..
Not a ranger, the stance is different, female rangers stand with their legs slightly apart. Mesmers stand with them together.

Anyway, it does look like a mes, but a sort of pseudo elementalist costume, theres a couple of ele female armours that are like that (small top with shoulder pads and a skirt.)

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I would like the Gladiator Armor to be modified a little. If it looked more like this, I'd put some on my warrior;

http://web.archive.org/web/200511191...er-004-lrg.jpg

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed View Post
I would like the Gladiator Armor to be modified a little. If it looked more like this, I'd put some on my warrior;

http://web.archive.org/web/200511191...er-004-lrg.jpg
Isn't that an Elementalist armor? Tops Elite Sunboob armor by miles.

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They kept the boots. Those are the Theatrical boots.

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I don't think that's an el because her breasts are too small...

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@Winterclaw - are you using calipers to measure that sort of stuff on the screen?

Definitely a caster - the pose shows that. Weapon users stand with feet apart. Don't know whose idea it is but all wrong for either ele or mesmer -- Not elegant enough for mesmer; not "look at me" enough for an ele.

Sometimes the creative brains take a holiday from reality, like rangers with spikes to catch on things as you try to slip through the undergrowth.

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Looks like a ranger to me...

Where's all the beta-people? Come on, tell us about this armor!

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Whatever profession, she certainly belongs on a street corner asking passers-by if they want to "party."

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What, a woman with an anorexic waist and a plastic chest?
Not to mention the fact that she's animated?

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If you look at the order of the screenshots in the gallery on that archive, this is the news post that refers to it when it was added to the gallery.

Quote:
Female Character Presented 06 February 2004
e are pleased to present a new screenshot with the first-ever look at one of the female character models in Guild Wars. Visit our Gallery to see the latest in-game image.
Source: http://web.archive.org/web/200405270...guildwars.com/

I'd wager this was removed before the big E3 for Everyone event that made a name for this game in 2004, at best it was an elementalist or an npc at the time, mesmers didnt exist back then

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I'm more interested in something else in that screenshot.

Notice how long that person's hair is? No character's model has hair that long (probablly due to clipping issues) and its one thing I've wanted for my female characters for a while.

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Ooh you're right.
This comes close, but not as long:

(Rit)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
I'm more interested in something else in that screenshot.

Notice how long that person's hair is? No character's model has hair that long (probablly due to clipping issues) and its one thing I've wanted for my female characters for a while.
....until the made dervishes...there are a bunch of female dervish hair styles with long hair. wish they had done that for some of the other professions.

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Wow..Im kinda glad that wasn't put in o.o; Slut r us

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Female Necro model. Discarded facial features and armor design.

SERIOUSLY GUYS. COME ON. NOT HARD.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nessar View Post
Wow..Im kinda glad that wasn't put in o.o; Slut r us
Most of the Elementalist armoursets are already like that.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla View Post
Most of the Elementalist armoursets are already like that.
At least they have a feminine shape. That's my gripe with mesmer monument armour as well...it looks like she's wearing a cardboard box.

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Hawk, there is a ranger's haircut that is almost as long as that (I think it's from NF).

By the look of how she's dressed I think that it would have been a mesmer.

And some skirts are shorter (ie: the hydromancer's skirt).

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Faer View Post
Female Necro model. Discarded facial features and armor design.

SERIOUSLY GUYS. COME ON. NOT HARD.
Me think this, she has the same stance as the female Necro.

If it is that, I'm glad it has been discarded, it's not Necro-looking at all...

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My two cents. It's not actual knowledge, but based on what we heard in interviews of the past, it can make sense.

On Bloom:
Arenanet said that at some point of development they hired an artist to fake screenshots, which were then given to the programmers who were instructed to make the game look like this. The screenshot might be a result of that process at some point. Besides, if you only need one screenshot it doesn't matter if the game only runs at 3 frames per second. Later they dialed back the bloom and fidelity to get more frames out of peoples computers. To this day there is no option to turn off sprite pop-overs in the distance and a special mod is required to give people in outposts high texture details.So it's a screenshot from a non-release version, big deal.

On long hair:
Guild cape + long hair = clipping issues.
Sure, the cape has its own fair share of those, but imagine how bad it would have been with long, animated hair. Especially since people will see their character all the time and guild capes could not be turned off in the beginning. The long hair had to go.

On the model:
It's the first female model ever made public. It's most likely the first decent one they had. Who cares what it later became. It could have turned into an NSC for all we know.

On the armor

Again, with the release more than one year away, she got what was available at that time. Some (later to be) Mesmer boots, some (later to be) Ele cloths. Even the texture design was not final. But the 3d mesh looks familiar. Funny thing that people would want to have this armor, at least as many would hate on it for being just a reskin. But since it has 3D meshes from multiple classes, this armor would not pass Arenanet's own rule of "being able to id a class at first glance in PvP".

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Wasn't in the beta as far as I can remember....probably never made it.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by garethporlest18 View Post
Definitely would bring out the ho/I want boys to e-hit/e-perv on me look.
You say that like it'd be a bad thing...

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This game lacks long hair.

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http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/552148...42203_004.html

GW screenshots on IGN date back as far as 2003. Look through these, starting from old and going forward. It's pretty cool to take a look at how the game looked two years before most people started playing it. Dev's came from WoW and that's pretty apparent in many of these earlier screens.


Pesky Tundra Giants and their large rocks!

I'm quite certain this link has been posted on this forum in a few other threads as well.

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I like a pic of the warrior earlier in the game development. It wasn't the 'roided out linebacker look we have today.

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It looks like Elementalist armor for me.

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What's with all the slut and street corner cracks? Sometimes I think all the accusations of promiscuity are merely wishful thinking on the part of the accusers. Dream on, boys.

Have you seen what people wear in real life when clubbing? Have you ever been to a beach, for that matter? Gone into an anthropology book to see what indigenous peoples wear even today? This is overly tame, not to mention pretty ugly. But even if it weren't, get this through your heads: the cut of a skirt has much more to do with comfort, climate, culture, and couture than her interest in sex - or in you.

Reconsider your own shame and modesty hangups, and yes, your own sexism. Don't take them out on a cartoon.

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I like the designs on the armor and the long hair.

But yeah, interesting find.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paloma Song View Post
What's with all the slut and street corner cracks? Sometimes I think all the accusations of promiscuity are merely wishful thinking on the part of the accusers. Dream on, boys.

Have you seen what people wear in real life when clubbing? Have you ever been to a beach, for that matter? Gone into an anthropology book to see what indigenous peoples wear even today? This is overly tame, not to mention pretty ugly. But even if it weren't, get this through your heads: the cut of a skirt has much more to do with comfort, climate, culture, and couture than her interest in sex - or in you.

Reconsider your own shame and modesty hangups, and yes, your own sexism. Don't take them out on a cartoon.
I would agree with you on part of that. However, one thing you seem to forget is that people in today's society wear clothes based on how they look in them. Women wear short skirts that hide very little for one reason in most cases. It makes men look at them. True, there are those that wear them for comfort, but most know that even the comfort is clouded with the 'sex appeal'. Try taking a short skirt like the characters in GW wear to a catholic school and convince the nun's to wear them as it would be more comfortable in the hot weather.