Make Festival Hats Uncustomizable

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Agreed. I don't even know why they had to be customized in the first place....

cant wait to sell stupid hats for 100k+250ecto

signed on one condition, to be stay in one and the same account.

just make an update to make everyone's festival hat maker be able to make all hats from all past events so a new guy who starts now can get the hats from last year and so on and so on
/signed tho

/not signed. if u missed it, too bad. it was a one-time hat and there will be others

/not signed

festival hats = oldschool show off.

/Notsigned - You missed it. Wait for next one.

/notsigned

The hats are a souvenir for players who attended a certain festival only. Hats can be transferred to other chars on the same account via the festival hat NPC.

Attendance can however be difficult for people who move around a lot; have exams; work overseas for periods (academics, military etc) have lives etc. I don't think having no life outside a game should be rewarded. :P

simple answer: afking, most people do it (not to mention theres 24 hours, if not more to get the hat. and no one is busy for 24 hours). the people who dont have the hats probably dont because they didnt have the game at the time or had quit, not because of the reasons youve listed. therefore, too bad. youll get others.

It's a hat
Its totally unimportant

So no you cannot have one if you didn't go to the event


But in the spirit of compromise I am happy for you to be able to buy hats from the npc that you can wear outside of towns.

Or cheap copies from the dodgy npc that hides in dark corners, ok they are slightly off colour and have the names spelt incorrectly.

In fact anything that says something like I didn't go to winterfest 07 but got a hat anyway.

So wear your hat with pride you know you where not there and so do we.

I think they should make a dunce hat for people who post the same stupid topics, and beat the same dead horse, over and over and over...

The hats are special only because they mark participation in a certain event. Take that away and they are completely meaningless. You missed the event so tough crap for you - get over it.

Well said. *applauds*

That is really more of a gripe about the title system. Some hats take no time to get because you can just buy whatever the collector wants. The others are afk-fests where the hat magically appears in your invo.

Hats really fall into the same category as: Collector's edition aura, limited mini-pets, etc.
They offer no actual "edge" to the players that have them, and as such these things should continue to serve their purpose --> prestige (e-peen, if you will)

The same issue will come up in GW2 for those who weren't around to fill up some silly hall in GW1. No, they shouldn't get whatever mysterious/useless gift those that did are expecting, either.

Since you have said 'life', then you won't mind not getting a stupid hat, right?

/notsigned

/notsigned even though i know for a fact arenanet wont do this.

Hmmm awesome idea!! Maybe we can uncustomize our prophecies CE auras and sell them too!! WTS Censors Icon (10k), Spiritbinder (5k), War Pick (5k)!!!

WTB Rank and Tengu Mask!!

/sarcasm



Sorry guys I was there, you were not.

There's a kind of people that do not want others having what they have: "3 year old minded greedbags".

A guy that just bought the all-pack now wasn't there? So what?

At least one way for new accounts to get old masks should be added.
For example, an NPC collecting them all year round.
Anyone that wants or don't mind others having their masks, could give away spare masks or even have new ones crafted and give them to the NPC.
The NPC would NOT give anything in exchange of the masks, it would be a complete giveaway.
The Hat maker could do that:
Player > "I don't need this hat, can you give it to anyone else?"
[Hat Maker]> "Sure, give it to me, and I'll save it to give it to anyone else."

Then, in Wintersday, gifts could also randomly contain 'unlock mask' tokens, that can be given to mask crafters to unlock one of the masks that are not unlocked.

People give masks, people can get masks, no one gives masks, no one gets masks.

When people are told "do this to get an exclusive item" and then that item turns out to be not exclusive, they are justified in getting angry. Those hats and the CE auras are the sole things left in this game that you can point to and say, "See, I've been here from the beginning." I think it's a tad bit greedy on your part to want to take those few useless but cool items that can actually be called "exclusive" and make them just another lame item that everyone ends up griping about how common and useless they are (read: minipets).

Exclusivity It's not eternal.

Real things like cars, cellphones, basic rights, citizenship... many of those were exclusive for some time... luckily they are no longer that.
The BMP was exclusive for some time.
The material storage was exclusive to Factions some time.
Heroes was exclusive to Nightfall for some time.
Same goes for elite areas, what was for some, sooner or later becomes for all.

Sooner or later, everything 'opens', and anyone can have fun.

Keeping things exclusive for those that deserve it for a lot of time it's nice.
Keeping things exclusive forever it's a huge mistake.

Then why not just give every festival hat to every account that has ever and will ever be created without any requirements? While they are at it they can stop doing end of festival events too.

This idea is and has been a bad idea every time it was suggested. There are plenty of things in life that are "you have to have been there". If you missed the event because you where doing something else then boo-hoo. You got to be at whatever you thought was more important.

This idea is made even more trivial with the recent trend in events of offering hats up to one week after the event has ended.

As it stands, Festival Hats are armors with 0 AL, which means they're customized because of being armors and useless because of being 0 AL.

There's no point in asking them to be uncustomized or changed until they become useful.

/agreed

/wishes I had gotten festival hats for all my characters

My last company give away cars in a raffle at the Christmas party every year - the tickets being performance based. Trick being that you have to be at the party to win it. Last year, a guy won a TVR, but he wasn't there, and the raffle was redrawn. Had a life outside attending his work's Christmas party and lost out on an amazing car... s***t happens!

I would say the majority of people who move around a lot/work overseas often have laptops, and there's this miracle invention called wifi that most places have now, so if you were that desperate for a hat, you could still log on.

If you have exams, or something else to do on that particular day - just log on and go afk - the events last for 24 hours, giving you 8 chances to get a hat by just standing there not doing anything. Only worry you might here is that you have no self control and can't resist actually playing once you log on.

And if you are in the military, or something similar, chances are you're not going to be that fussed about getting a hat in GW that you're probably never going to wear any time other than at the next event anyway ;-)

Plus, how does being in the house for a couple of hours/long enough to log onto a computer and go afk on Hallowe'en or on Chinese New Year or the last day of the Christmas period or whatever mean that you have no life whatsoever outside of the game??

Like many people have pointed out - the hats are a novelty award for attending the event, and nobody would be interested in them if they were so freely accessible.

What's the big deal anyway, it's only a hat. Never see anybody wearing them anyway except to show off at one event that you attended the one 2 years previously!!

/unsigned

/definitely NOT signed

These hats are a novelty item, that serve no purpose rather than being a souvenir of attending an in-game event.

I am proud of having attended every festival in the history of gw, and wouldn't want this to negate my elitism.

Not that I give a frosty crank one way or the other, but the statement in bold above is a good example of someone who can't see past the end of their own nose.

People have lives out side of the game. Like the OP said, some travel for work, or maybe have to do guard duty for a couple of weeks, this list could go on and on. Anyway there is a good chance these people don't have access to a computer or at least one that has or will ever have GW on it. Therefore they will miss the event, I am just saying that just because you have nothing but time to set around a computer doesn't mean everyone else does.

IMO, I think the hats are silly and add nothing to the game but, I know some people like and enjoy them so, why not let people have them?

New players can even get old miniatures, given time.

I'm not saying they should just be uncutomizable adn anyone getting them instantly, but people should be able to get anything after enough time has passed.

yeah they are hats. Now what really should be done is make them have ARMOR so that I can CUSTOMIZE it with RUNE's and run out there in my Scare Crow Hat insteat of this goofy helmet that I never show anyway. That would be a Practical use for festival hats

u can obtain them...
buy an account from a gw player that has been to the event


i mean while they're at it...
they mite as well give everyone one of these: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Frog_(miniature)

This is pointless now with the hat maker.

I'll /sign for that. It'll prevent people from selling the Day of the Tengu mask for like 100k+200 armbraces...

I smell e-peeeen wanting. Anyways, the hats are never the same, except for Canthan New Year (this could be an exception for the weekend event?) and not everyone, such as myself, even knew about GW for some hats (and some didn't have the ability/knowledge to get certain hats).

I, for one, only found out about GW when Factions got out, and started playing during the first Dragon Festival, so I didn't even know about a hat until it was the last day of the event (and how would I go from 5 Jade Orbs, which I had no clue how I got, to 250 in a day?).

It is unfair to those who were unable to get hats, or didn't know how to get one, due to being new to the game. ANet is starting to go back on elitism it seems, so this would be one more step to be rid of it.

/sign for a week/weekend event for the hat maker (or just all of wintersday have this availible, would be a good gift), just to get rid of elitism a bit more and to give those who were unable to get hats a chance to get them (while not automatically giving them).

How about 1k to craft a hat from the hat maker when you didn't show the hat during the event? Even it out a bit.

No one is busy for 24 hours, but you can only afk for 10 hours (so you have to set it up for 9-ish hours before the first hat). And some events have multiple events, so you may only get one.

Also, and more importantly, Not everyone can get to a computer within 24 hours. Ex: Military (big chance your either too busy to set up, log in, and go afk, or your sleeping) And idk about you, but I for one don't want to set up a laptop for afking an event when others have access to your laptop....


Edit: Here's an idea *based off of MithranArkanere's idea*, why not put in a new NPC for each event, and have that guy collect like 250 of a hard to get trophy that has no purpose (like Molten Claws, very limited places to get) and 1k. That NPC will give you one past event mask of your choice for each 250 trophies and 1k.

This will make them hard to get, but each mask available for each year. Nearly everyone wins.

And another idea: Since festival hats are purely for show due to 0 AR, why not make it 5k at the hat maker and you get a version of the hat that is like Common armor. 60/70/80 AR *based on profession* and the +1 attribute. Not to mention, you can put an insignia on it...

Currently, their only use is in-town and for the farmers that need low armor and can lose the +1.

thats no excuse

aksing for hats
is like aksing for every day to be 3x lockpick weekend
and everyday to be double fame weekend

u snooze u looze

there will be new events, and new hats
stop crying by old hats, and be thankful that u get new hats

Dude...it's a hat. Let it go.

"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s festival hat."

This is more of the same vein of complaint that got dropped presents 'assigned' to players at the Dragon Festival - some of us could be bothered to sit around to pick up presents - some couldn't. Some people can be bothered to attend festivals for the hat - some can't.

I know it's harsh, but if you want the hat, you have to do something for it - that's the nature of the game else where does it end?? Will it be next:- "I've been playing 3 years too - I think I deserve free Obsidian armour for my L20 monk I haven't played for over a year that I only just got through Hells Precipice".

The game presents a series of goals and targets to attain - some you achieve some you don't - sorry but that's life too - most definitely /notsigned

Personally, I think hats should give armor.
I want to fight the Lich in a santa hat :<

I cant tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but that is what the festival hat guy is for.

And for a little sarcasm myself, Id like to add that allowing the universal unlock of all festival hats would definately benefit my playing experience and overall satisfaction in not only Guild Wars, but my life as well.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10098928

Or my favorite one

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...light=festival

I'd be willing to have that done for Festival Hats, but not allow ANYONE to get ANY hat. I do not have every hat there is, and wish I had some that I am missing. However, I did not attend the events that handed them out, and so missed my chance. If this was added, I would get those missing hats, but I do not think it should be changed.

why? you can get any hat you have gotten in the past for 10g.

Oh no, not at all. I don't have a single festival hat as I'm usually doing things during the festive seasons. I do however understand that festivals are difficult for people to attend (i.e. one of my friends in the army is never able to play during the seasons) and so I don't think they should be customized so friends who do have the 'luxury' or drive to play during those holidays can pick them up for them if they want one.

They should just make it so you can get similar hats to the past festivals. No one from Halloween 2006 complains about not getting a 2005 Pumpkin Crown, though I've seen a lot of people lamenting that they didn't get a Witches Hat.

Continue the tradition started by the Pumpkin Crown and the Yule Cap; give out similar but different hats. Those that want the hats for the sake of having a hat can get what they want, and those that are worried about the exclusivity being ruined won't have anything to worry about.

To be honest though, it seems like it would be a lot easier and less time consuming for them to just give out the old hats somehow. And for that matter, it would be nice if I could bestow my hat collection as gifts to my friends. And frankly I think enough people would feel that way that hats wouldn't got for 100k+xx ectos. (/Sign on the original idea. )

Another nice side effect of this idea would be that it would not be absolutely necessary to attend the events, so AFKer's wouldn't be lagging up the servers.