Armbraces going for 100k+50e Lol...

SilentWhistle

SilentWhistle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

UK

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Wow, I knew Tormented weps were being added to HoM, but didn't expect the price of Armbraces going up by 30e!

That's just...stupid :S

MisterB

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

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Honestly, how could you not see this coming?

Absent an increase of supply, and with a renewed increase in demand, is it any surprise that prices have risen?

edit: Are people actually buying at that price, or are the sellers trying to inflate it because of the HoM update?

shru

shru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

That's just the economy of a superficial materialistic game like GW...

bodyboarder

bodyboarder

retired

Join Date: Jun 2006

they started at 75e lol there back down to about 60e atm :P

PuppyEater

PuppyEater

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

I'm on the left...

Guilds? Where we're going we don't need guilds...

R/Rt

I'm sure they are going to fall right back down once people realize they'll have to customize every armbrace they buy for the monument.....

idicious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

Holland

LoD

P/W

Tons of people selling but very few buying.

Shayne Hawke

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Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Probably temporary. Doesn't really matter much anyways.

Lyynyyrd

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Originally Posted by PuppyEater View Post
I'm sure they are going to fall right back down once people realize they'll have to customize every armbrace they buy for the monument.....
People should be customizing their weapons anyways.

Elmindreda Farshaw

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Shiverpeak Search and Rescue [Lost]

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Originally Posted by Lyynyyrd View Post
People should be customizing their weapons anyways.
Yeah cause my monk really needs that extra 20% base damage in pve. Really tho I almost never customize my weapons on the off chance that I will sell it again later. Something new always comes along.

Miska Bow

Miska Bow

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Join Date: Jan 2008

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While we are talking about Hom,

Quote:
The maximum number of displayable achievements at each monument are:

* 5 heroes or pets in the Monument of Fellowship
* 20 miniatures in the Monument of Devotion
* 5 title or accomplishment statues in the Monument of Honor
* 5 prestige armor sets in the Monument of Resilience
* 11 destroyer weapons and tormented weapons in the Monument of Valor
I just went into mine and no new display for the tormented weapon has been added.


Does this mean that You can only display 11 weapons total?

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

does this mean that other players might be able to play in DOA???
(I am still going to do the destroyer ones just cause they are cheap).

Martin Alvito

Martin Alvito

Older Than God (1)

Join Date: Aug 2006

Clan Dethryche [dth]

Reality lies somewhere between the WTB spam and the WTS spam.

Anyone that believes the WTS prices is a fool, and deserves to be parted from his or her money.

0siris

0siris

Riding the Gravy Train

Join Date: Oct 2005

Chicago Area

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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i got lucky...picked up an armbrace a few weeks back for 100+10e

Senrath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Halfway between here and there

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Originally Posted by Miska Bow View Post
While we are talking about Hom,



I just went into mine and no new display for the tormented weapon has been added.


Does this mean that You can only display 11 weapons total?
Yeah. Only can display 11 Tormented+Destroyer weapons.

Miska Bow

Miska Bow

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Join Date: Jan 2008

somewhere, Grinding some l33t titles

Order of the Divine WoodChuck

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So a full HoM is still a Full HoM no matter what you display in it.

Why would someone want to buy ambrace at 100k+50e if this update does not changes anything to your HoM?

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Glad I filled my HoM with destroyer weapons so I wouldn't be tempted to put my torm weapons in. I might actually sell them now...I hardly ever use them anymore.

fenix

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A curse upon whoever caused the price to drop back down.

HawkofStorms

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Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

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The demand for these JUST aren't there.

A) Anybody who could afford one and wanted one probablly knew about this change coming, anticipated it, and bought them already.

B) Pratically nobody is going to add them to the HoM right now anyways until they find out about how the account wide HoM is going to work (ie, nobody is going to customize their tormented sword on there main, a caster, when they can wait a month and customize it on their warrior's HoM which will now go account wide, IF that's how it works). Everybody is going to wait and see.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

I'm going even further - as HoM is completely irrelevant in GW1, I'm just not going to fill Weapons/Armors/Minipets monuments even when it goes Account-wide. I can just do that at the moment of GW2 release! Until then Armbraces are better in 1 stack than exchanged for weapons I wouldn't use anyway. Same with other stuff.

Mr. Undisclosed

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I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyynyyrd View Post
People should be customizing their weapons anyways.
lawl for PvE? Because its really needed right?

Arkantos

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The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed View Post
lawl for PvE? Because its really needed right?
If you're supposed to be doing damage, you're dumb if you give up 20% extra damage. Yes, even in PvE. More damage is never bad, and should always be used.

Anyways, I remember when Fenix and others said the price would rise when this update happened, and people laughed at them and called them dumb. Funny stuff.

daze

daze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2008

In my own mind

The Dragon Exchange

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I just sold 2 of my arbbraces today.. one for 100k + 20e and the other for 100k +25e

10 left to sell, i am tempted to hold on to the to see if they actually go higher.

In pve customizing weapons really isnt worth it.. especially if you ever think you may sell the weapon trade the weapon or god forbid, let another character use it. Ive never found a need to customize in pve

Mr. Undisclosed

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I phail

Join Date: Mar 2007

Phailville

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Originally Posted by Arkantos View Post
If you're supposed to be doing damage, you're dumb if you give up 20% extra damage. Yes, even in PvE. More damage is never bad, and should always be used.

Anyways, I remember when Fenix and others said the price would rise when this update happened, and people laughed at them and called them dumb. Funny stuff.
Srs bsns right?

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In pve customizing weapons really isnt worth it.. especially if you ever think you may sell the weapon trade the weapon or god forbid, let another character use it. Ive never found a need to customize.
Exactly

Pleikki

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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mm.. everyone knew this coming, as i said to everyone allready at ursan nerf to save their arbraces cus Hom update raise their prices..

fenix

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Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed View Post
Srs bsns right?


Exactly
What?

Are you serious? You must be the worst PvEr in the game then. Customizing is FREE DAMAGE. And since when did damage not matter in PvE? It's ENTIRELY based around doing as much damage as you can in as short a time as you can. If you're not customizing your weapons, then you're either stupid, or bad. There's NO reason not to customize weapons in GW, except if you have an unconditional, or a weapon that you are 100% going to resell at some point.

You try and act all funny with 'srs bsns right?' but clearly you have no clue about GW. Maybe you should crawl back to GWO where idiocy flies a bit better.

kess

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

E/A

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Originally Posted by fenix View Post
What?

Are you serious? You must be the worst PvEr in the game then. Customizing is FREE DAMAGE. And since when did damage not matter in PvE? It's ENTIRELY based around doing as much damage as you can in as short a time as you can. If you're not customizing your weapons, then you're either stupid, or bad. There's NO reason not to customize weapons in GW, except if you have an unconditional, or a weapon that you are 100% going to resell at some point.

You try and act all funny with 'srs bsns right?' but clearly you have no clue about GW. Maybe you should crawl back to GWO where idiocy flies a bit better.
you are half right, for melee and ranger/paragon, I customized my weapons to get the 20% extra (that's for pve), but for caster never, just my 2 cents.

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

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Originally Posted by daze View Post
I just sold 2 of my arbbraces today.. one for 100k + 20e and the other for 100k +25e

10 left to sell, i am tempted to hold on to the to see if they actually go higher.

In pve customizing weapons really isnt worth it.. especially if you ever think you may sell the weapon trade the weapon or god forbid, let another character use it. Ive never found a need to customize in pve

Glad i sold my 7 for 100k + 30-35e b4 the update when everyone was saving them.


No body bought them for the 100k+50e, closest was a friend who bought a skeletonic for 50e and 3 armbraces right after the update, so he did get a good deal.


This was know for 5 months, and people who wanted them had them months ago.
I have a set in my hall if anyone wants to take a look.

daze

daze

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2008

In my own mind

The Dragon Exchange

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Originally Posted by fenix View Post
There's NO reason not to customize weapons in GW, except if you have an unconditional, or a weapon that you are 100% going to resell at some point.
Not quite, if you read upwards a couple posts you will see that i gave 3 reasons why not to customize a weapon. (which is 3 more than NO reason)

umm and the 100% you offered is, forgive me, a bit ignorant. In my opinion it should go more like, If you have a weapon that you are 100% not planning on reselling or sharing with a different toon, then its ok to customize. Otherwise if there is a 1% chance you might sell, trade or share the weapon; you should not customize the weapon.

Im not arguing the fact that customizing doesnt add any benefit to PvE because it does. And i dont really see how anybody can argue this anyways because the idea is totally argumentative. I would not call myself "bad' at the game by any means. Ive cleared the hardest areas of the game multiple times and i dont customize my weapons.

Its not needed but it does help. That is the bottom line.

Its all totally opinion. And calling someone "stupid or bad" or berating someone for having an opinion and offering that opinion is a bit childish. IMHO

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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon View Post
Glad i sold my 7 for 100k + 30-35e b4 the update when everyone was saving them.


No body bought them for the 100k+50e, closest was a friend who bought a skeletonic for 50e and 3 armbraces right after the update, so he did get a good deal.


This was know for 5 months, and people who wanted them had them months ago.
I have a set in my hall if anyone wants to take a look.

Ive been saving up armbraces for months and months now. At first i was thinking i would just sell them all after the update. But now, having stacks upon stacks of ectos is not as appealing as it used to be. Lately i have ben just giving ectos to my guildmates by the handfulls. I may just display 10 tormented weapons in my HoM.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix View Post
What?

Are you serious? You must be the worst PvEr in the game then. Customizing is FREE DAMAGE. And since when did damage not matter in PvE? It's ENTIRELY based around doing as much damage as you can in as short a time as you can. If you're not customizing your weapons, then you're either stupid, or bad. There's NO reason not to customize weapons in GW, except if you have an unconditional, or a weapon that you are 100% going to resell at some point.

You try and act all funny with 'srs bsns right?' but clearly you have no clue about GW. Maybe you should crawl back to GWO where idiocy flies a bit better.

It's not free damage. It's 10g, plus whatever profit you might make on the item by selling it later, if it happens to become more popular/rare such as tormented weapons. If you bought a torm sword when it was 100k+10e and customized it, you lost out on 30 ectos worth of profit. PvE isn't worth customizing a weapon. if I want more damage in PvP, i'll mod up some junk swords that won't be worth the steel they're made of and customize them. At least the mods can be removed.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix View Post
What?

Are you serious? You must be the worst PvEr in the game then. Customizing is FREE DAMAGE. And since when did damage not matter in PvE? It's ENTIRELY based around doing as much damage as you can in as short a time as you can. If you're not customizing your weapons, then you're either stupid, or bad. There's NO reason not to customize weapons in GW, except if you have an unconditional, or a weapon that you are 100% going to resell at some point.

You try and act all funny with 'srs bsns right?' but clearly you have no clue about GW. Maybe you should crawl back to GWO where idiocy flies a bit better.
Your look at PvE fails here:
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Originally Posted by fenix View Post
It's ENTIRELY based around doing as much damage as you can in as short a time as you can.
Now while your position on customization is correct when the player in question actually falls under the premise you posted - that premise does not include all players.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

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If you choose to play worse than you could, that's your choice. But you forfeit the right to talk about how to play PvE.

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

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I don't see how an uncustomised Healing Staff would make me a worse player. Are you suggesting monks should waste their time wanding stuff? Can't wait for someone to pull the old "you-can-trigger-RoF" argument.

On topic:
I seriously doubt I'll be putting Tormented weapons in my HoM. Destroyer ones are ugly enough.

fenix

fenix

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Like Avarre said, not customizing weapons (where it applies, obviously) is simply making yourself weaker for no reason. If you're that desperate for cash, you obviously don't know how to play GW properly. Customizing gives you a large benefit, and is worth it, except when you might decide to resell the weapon. For anything else, there's no reason not to.

And sure, you can beat zones without customizing, but if you're in a good, organised team, which I'm guessing you guys havent been, you want to finish the zone as fast as possible. So, not customizing is slowing up the team for no reason except that you don't want to lose out on a few plat that you'll make back anyway.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre View Post
If you choose to play worse than you could, that's your choice. But you forfeit the right to talk about how to play PvE.
Actually no.
PvE is designed to be very forgiving of mistakes. Or better yet - of actions that should be considered mistakes IF PvE had been designed to cater the skill of the best players.

It's the same reason why one can make a mesmer in PvE and that mesmer doesn't come with a maxed Sunspear title.

Kamatsu

Kamatsu

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Australia

Please keep to the topic. No trolling, flaming, being rude, etc.

Lyynyyrd

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elmindreda Farshaw View Post
Yeah cause my monk really needs that extra 20% base damage in pve. Really tho I almost never customize my weapons on the off chance that I will sell it again later. Something new always comes along.
You'll regret not customizing when a wand spike fails.

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Originally Posted by cataphract View Post
I don't see how an uncustomised Healing Staff would make me a worse player. Are you suggesting monks should waste their time wanding stuff? Can't wait for someone to pull the old "you-can-trigger-RoF" argument.

On topic:
I seriously doubt I'll be putting Tormented weapons in my HoM. Destroyer ones are ugly enough.
Nope, you're supposed to be healing on a constant basis, because your team is probably terrible and always in need of red bars being pushed up. Good teams use Protection Prayers, which rend healing unnecessary for a large portion of battles. And when the healing is not necessary, you can just stand around not wanding - dealing 120% less damage than your potential would allow.

Sjeng

Sjeng

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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Way to ignore Kamatsu's request Lyynyyrd.

And I agree with upier.

We can discuss customization here (whether you customize or not) and more on topic here (if you should or shouldn't customize).

ontopic: It was to be expected, but if people are really going to pay more for them remains to be seen. I've bought most tormy's for an average of 100k+15~20 Z-keys. Some cheaper and some more expensive.
Not going to put them in my HoM though as long as I don't know what the GW2 reward will be. If the reward for 11 Destroyer weapons will be the same as 11 Tormy's, I won't put them in there. If there are going to be 2 unique unlocked weapons sets (1 for each set), then I might.

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

There is mroe demand for armbraces because now everyone who wants a "full" HoM would want some tormented weapons to display. At teh same time despite the sudden influx of armbraces into the market by ppl who were saving them up for this day, the supply is a lot more limited than earlier. It is reasonable to expect them to stabilize in price around 70e in the next couple of weeks.

Damian979

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

I think the issue is being forced to customize any weapon you want to display in order to put in the HoM not whether to customize. Of course customization decreases the number of said weapons in the trade market and increases the price.

Customizing a weapon for actual use is good. Auto-customizing a weapon that a character will never use simply to be able to display it is bad. It should at the very least have a dedicated status so it could be at least sellable or usable on an applicable character.

Yes, my melee characters use customized weapons. No I don't need a staff customized for my sin just because I want to put it in my HoM.

Yes you can just put them on the heroes for that char but seriously, who wants to spend 400k so Dunkoro can have a new staff?

Shursh

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Join Date: Jul 2008

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yesterday, i was buying @ roughly 100k+30e and selling @ 100k+35e...made myself a nice little profit

but yea, i did see people spamming "WTS armbrace 100K+50e" and "WTS armbrace 60/70e"

makes me wonder if i should have hung on to those armbraces i bought...