Warning To Traders

Lichtenberg

Lichtenberg

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mass Delusion [LARP]

Some of you may know about the material scam from before

where it would show up as 250ectos or w/e, but when the items would get traded, you would get some random common material instead.

i just lost 200k, just thought you guys would be more careful when trading rate materials, or anything worth alot of money

Admin Edit: You need to remove the names in your screenshot

Heloniar

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

A New Day Dawns [HOPE]

W/P

ow, report him

SilentWhistle

SilentWhistle

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

UK

[NoW]

Mo/W

Wow, that sucks.
Isn't it an exploit, not a scam = ban?

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

So it wasnt showing as 1 wood plank on the trade before you pressed accept? what was it showing as??

Not sure that pic is allowed with names on either, even if you want to name and shame him.

Lichtenberg

Lichtenberg

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mass Delusion [LARP]

i was buying a armbrace, thats what it showed in trade
until i accepted, i got a woodplank in my inventory

some people might remember this happend once already, about 18 months ago maybe

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Tell me, did he have any "troubles" during the trade?

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

Yep, report the issue as a bug and him as a scammer. Sorry for your loss

wind fire and ice

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

[ToA]

o.o..all i have to say.

Thats odd.

guildwars hero22

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2008

farming zashien (keys)

R/Me

how isit done exactly?

Lichtenberg

Lichtenberg

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mass Delusion [LARP]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw View Post
Tell me, did he have any "troubles" during the trade?
Nope, i remember before they would have to show the other material, wood in this case, then try to play it off as a joke or something

now i guess not, since the first and only item i saw him put up was the armbrace

guildwars hero22

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2008

farming zashien (keys)

R/Me

i dont see how this is possible ,

Trader of Secrets

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

wat is this, a hack or some kind of bug that makes items appear incorrectly?

wind fire and ice

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

[ToA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by guildwars hero22 View Post
i dont see how this is possible ,
would be somthing with quickly changing would be my guess,making it show one item but actually be another.

nitetime

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

eotn

W/

someone needs to pm that guy and find out what he did. If this is true, it is not good. and I don't recall the material scam from before.

Quote:
Originally Posted by wind fire and ice View Post
would be somthing with quickly changing would be my guess,making it show one item but actually be another.
but theres a warning message when someone tries that or something gets changed.

wind fire and ice

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

[ToA]

Did you talk to him after,or did he ignore you or what?
It could have ben a fault with the game rather then him scaming.

guildwars hero22

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2008

farming zashien (keys)

R/Me

but the warning message comes up so u must have known?

wind fire and ice

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

[ToA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by nitetime View Post



but theres a warning message when someone tries that or something gets changed.
I meant before hitting submit,like changing an arm brace for a piece of wood right as you hit enter,no clue how you would do it but i was just saying it could have possibly ben how s/he did it.

Lichtenberg

Lichtenberg

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mass Delusion [LARP]

Quote:
Originally Posted by guildwars hero22 View Post
but the warning message comes up so u must have known?
read my other post

armbrace is the only item he put up,

the other time it was easier to spot when it was done with ectos because the merchant price would be wrong for the amount of ectos

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

In this case wouldnt it be the price of a plank of wood?

Lichtenberg

Lichtenberg

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mass Delusion [LARP]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luminarus View Post
In this case wouldnt it be the price of a plank of wood?
armbraces dont have merchant price, so it didnt show anything.

I'm just saying,avoid big trades till this is fixed

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

It is really hard to tell what is broken without a screen shot or bug.

Hanging Man

Hanging Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Deep in the Shire

that sucks, never heard of a problem like this before
pretty crappy, did the guy atleast contact you after and say hey bad trade?

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

remove the names and put another pic up please.

majikmajikmajik

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

SATown~Tx

Guild Hopper!

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sickkk View Post
Some of you may know about the material scam from before

where it would show up as 250ectos or w/e, but when the items would get traded, you would get some random common material instead.

i just lost 200k, just thought you guys would be more careful when trading rate materials, or anything worth alot of money

Admin Edit: You need to remove the names in your screenshot
wait a minute, so you lost 200k on 1 trade? thats not possible as you can only trade 100k..obviously you wernt paying attention to it.

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

Me/Rt

^ He said he was buying an armbrace. 100k + 100k worth of ectos = 200k.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by majikmajikmajik View Post
wait a minute, so you lost 200k on 1 trade? thats not possible as you can only trade 100k..obviously you wernt paying attention to it.
He was trading 40 Z keys for the armbrace (40 x 5k = 200k)

majikmajikmajik

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

SATown~Tx

Guild Hopper!

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zelgadissan View Post
^ He said he was buying an armbrace. 100k + 100k worth of ectos = 200k.
sorry didnt see where he said he was buying an armbrace only saw that he was trading ecto(which could mean buying orselling)

illidan009

illidan009

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

Volterra, Italy

A/

Wow. Just wow. I'm NOT buying anything over 100k until this is fixed...how can this even happen? Amrbrace turn in to a friggen wood??
Either way OP report him. I'm very sorry for your loss

sync_

sync_

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2008

Finnish Itters [Ns]

W/

i faced same kind of problem yesterday. i was selling armbrace in kamadan when this guy whisps me and gives guest invitation to his GH. i go to GH and press trade with him. it takes pretty long from him to add 50 ectos to trade and press submit. (dont know if this matters something) i had inventory open whole time. i press accept, then he press accept and fast removes my guest invitation. i saw ectos in my inventory like 1-2 seconds before i get mapped back to kamadan. when im in kamadan my 50 ectos have changed to 50 wood planks. and im 100% sure it was showing ectos both on trade and my inventory before mapping back to kamadan.


guy still keeps telling he has no idea about this but im going to report him anyways.

Fates

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kanuckistan

Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

R/

Awesome, another trade exploit. Woohoo. Guess I wont be doing any big trades any time soon.

Lichtenberg

Lichtenberg

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mass Delusion [LARP]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sync_ View Post
i faced same kind of problem yesterday. i was selling armbrace in kamadan when this guy whisps me and gives guest invitation to his GH. i go to GH and press trade with him. it takes pretty long from him to add 50 ectos to trade and press submit. (dont know if this matters something) i had inventory open whole time. i press accept, then he press accept and fast removes my guest invitation. i saw ectos in my inventory like 1-2 seconds before i get mapped back to kamadan. when im in kamadan my 50 ectos have changed to 50 wood planks. and im 100% sure it was showing ectos both on trade and my inventory before mapping back to kamadan.


guy still keeps telling he has no idea about this but im going to report him anyways.
same exact thing happened to me
takes a while to show me the item
then immediately revokes my guest invite

theonetheonlybruce

theonetheonlybruce

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fuzzies Anonymous [Fuzy]

Mo/

hum sounds interesting might be a timing issue with you being kick from there hall and trade closing

Trylo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Here] | CKOD

E/R

thanks for the update, no trades in the near future for me :/

i would like to see the picture with blacked out names, if you dont mind.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

Sickk, did you click accept before the scammer did?

does anyone knows, let say if i key in the agreed upon gold amount, then i click submit, and the other person, submit their item, and i see that it is what i wanted, so i click accept. on the other side you would see, so and so has accepted your offer (something like that) then they change the thing before hitting submit, that would means you won't see a notice, since you've already click accept?

i don't trade with people very much, so does that work that way?

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Sounds like you should just avoid getting guested by traders in the meantime... still, an exploit.

Edit: wood planks are likely either "item 0", "material 0", and possibly a default when the item data can't otherwise be recognized. The mid-trade termination is causing exploiter to gain ectos, keep their trade item, and partially modify (corrupt?) the victim's item data.

noneedforclevernames

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Jay To Much [SrE]

Me/N

idk how this would be possible to do and it would be just Wood Planks. There most likely coded like all the other materials. Most likely a bunch of liars ^^

Tramp

Tramp

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2008

Mo/

Might explain why there are a ton of arms for sale by no-names the last day or two in kamadan. I was thinking last night maybe it was cuz of hom update, but now maybe i am thinking it is this new glitch?

Was the OP trading in town or was he also guested/kicked from a hall?

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Didn't something very similar happen in the past?

Sigh.

Jensy

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

N/Mo

So, seems we can narrow it to:

1) Happens when going to a GH to trade
2) Trades taking an odd amount of time to complete
3) ???

Yeah, I'd advise against going to someone else's GH to trade. There's no real reason for it anyway. They should at least be able to get to SOME port town/GTOB.

Fleh. My sympathies to those scammed, people effing suck.

Valkyria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Did anyone try to replicate this bug/exploit/whatever? If so,what was the result?