Title update??

Johny bravo

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First I did a search and couldn't find anything on this too many other thread so if there is one on this already direct me there and close this. Onto the question.

Over the past couple weeks I have heard talk in various places that Anet will be revamping the title system. Making some easier to get and others account based that were not. Are people just hoping or has this been discussed somewhere that may have some substance behind it. I am just curious about it

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Johny bravo View Post
First I did a search and couldn't find anything on this too many other thread so if there is one on this already direct me there and close this. Onto the question.

Over the past couple weeks I have heard talk in various places that Anet will be revamping the title system. Making some easier to get and others account based that were not. Are people just hoping or has this been discussed somewhere that may have some substance behind it. I am just curious about it

Thanks
http://www.wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/U...urdock/Journal

Its good practice to keep up to date on wiki.

Luminarus

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Its happening... albeit as slow as ANET can be... wait for it, but dont base the way u play around it yet.

Skyy High

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It should be in November's update.

Quaker

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The titles are all pretty meaningless already - they may as well just give them all to you when you start a new character.
The oddballs in GW2 will be the people without the titles.

Shadowspawn X

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All the titles are due for a massive watering down in Novembers update. They passing out titles like welfare cheese.

Johny bravo

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Thanks for the links and info. I am always behind the power curve when it some to these things

HawkofStorms

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Unfortunately, Linsey Murdock, while an a.net employee, isn't really making "official" annoucnements. Plus, everybody has taken everything she has said to RAMPENT amounts of speculation (there was over 17 page long thread of speculation on this last month) that even what is implimented will be far less then people's hopes. Which is why it would be nice if A.net actually tried to control the flow of information a bit better rather then mislead people with random crumbs of information.

Seriously, is one employee's "blog" the only official PR that a.net is doing now? Pathetic.

Dr.Jones

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Unfortunately, Linsey Murdock, while an a.net employee, isn't really making "official" annoucnements. Plus, everybody has taken everything she has said to RAMPENT amounts of speculation (there was over 17 page long thread of speculation on this last month) that even what is implimented will be far less then people's hopes. Which is why it would be nice if A.net actually tried to control the flow of information a bit better rather then mislead people with random crumbs of information.

Seriously, is one employee's "blog" the only official PR that a.net is doing now? Pathetic.
oh you mean like how they are talking about guild wars2? yea no. i would much rather have the little bits of info then the nothing info that were going for guild was 2 i for one dont care if my speculation is wrong. its a fun thing to do and it helps pas the time.

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Originally Posted by Johny bravo View Post
First I did a search and couldn't find anything on this too many other thread so if there is one on this already direct me there and close this. Onto the question.

Over the past couple weeks I have heard talk in various places that Anet will be revamping the title system. Making some easier to get and others account based that were not. Are people just hoping or has this been discussed somewhere that may have some substance behind it. I am just curious about it

Thanks
All the revamping will do is make people QQ about how easy it is to get titles.

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All the revamping will do is make people QQ about how easy it is to get titles.
See? MORE speculation!!!!

Jecht Scye

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
Seriously, is one employee's "blog" the only official PR that a.net is doing now? Pathetic.
I agree with this statement actually. Visits by PR reps to forums used to be something you could somewhat look forward to. Now they're so infrequent and typically without substance that I no longer care when they show up as much.

fireflyry

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All the title RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs I know that were to busy grinding to play PvP will be gutted.

Anet really are getting worse by the month.

Cheapening titles, the only real way to get your e-peen on, only shows how much they really don't give a crap about the players that are passionate, borderline 24/7 obsessed, with GW.

I hate titles....but cheapening them?

Each time I come here I become more and more confident GW2 is going to be serious fail.

Dr.Jones

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Gold.

All the title RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs I know that were to busy grinding to play PvP will be gutted.

Anet really are getting worse by the month.

Cheapening titles, the only real way to get your e-peen on, only shows how much they really don't give a crap about the players that are passionate, borderline 24/7 obsessed, with GW.

I hate titles....but cheapening them?

Each time I come here I become more and more confident GW2 is going to be serious fail.

yep because makeing it so you dont have to waste months of your life grinding a tile cheepns it. no where did she say or anyone else say that they were going to lower the caps on titles. i think what there going to do is make it so you can get stuff quicker but you will still have do some grind it wont be half as bad though.

fireflyry

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Either way its the equivalent of selling something for $10 one year and $2 the next.

Just make Ursan last 2 hours or something.

As stated I don't even care about titles but making hard earned rewards based on game time, gold sink, and grind, suddenly cheaper actually cheapens the whole game and the "stature" such titles were originally created to facilitate.

It appears Anet will drop to any level, or may do, to keep people online.

Reputation dude.

It makes or breaks most online games in my experience.Imho this is yet another sign of panic by Anet due to bad planning between ending GW content and GW2 release.

If it even happens.

AcidDaze

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i just hope 'getting rid of grind' means they're gonna bring down the amount of faction needed to max kurzick and luxon

JeniM

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The objective in Guild Wars now is "Get Titles" sadly I don't have hours and hours every day to spend doing this so have no chance of maxing anymore titles. This feeling that I'll never get another title is why I start up GW, pick my character then close the window. Hopefully this update will give me some spark to play again, atleast for a short while.

Silverblad3

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Title Grind has been an issue for a long time, many players have complained about it and calling this game Grind Wars, which unfortunately it has become. It is not about cheapening titles, it is about making it the fun and exciting game it is. I actually do not care if it cheapens the title or not, I know I have earned my titles regardless and do not care for others e-peen.

So bring on the title achievement re-balance and non-grind that so many people complained about, whilst a little late in coming it is one of the most anticipated changes that folks talk to me about, this will mean that people will actually be able to play the game rather then grind and have more fun.

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Some people see titles as "look I'm so much better than you." But for others, while that's a factor, the primary drive is "completionism." "I want to have done everything the game has to offer." etc. For that group of people, super grind titles suck. If that's a really large segment, then it makes sense to reduce title grind to something manageable. Yes it makes GWAMM less elite, but if enough completionists don't even care how elite or not the title is, then it makes sense to put it in easier reach.

romeus petrus

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Titles are as meaningful as those who grind for them want them to be. A lot of PvE title not only involve no skill, but require no gameplay what so ever. All they do is remove part of the player population out of cooperative play and throw them into a brainless grind fest or a gold sink. To claim that a player is "elite" because that player has a high rank PvE title (including GWAMM) is only true in that player's mind.

I am hoping that maybe anet finally realized how pathetically retarded the idea of PvE titles was.

Shadowmoon

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All they do is remove part of the player population out of cooperative play and throw them into a brainless grind fest or a gold sink.
And if there were no titles, more players would just quit the game completely because they had nothing left to do. I'd think player would rather grind titles than the same elite mission over and over again for same drops that keep lossing value. Titles keep this game afloat, people want progress on something. On the other side, having titles that seem unobtainable also losses players. This update IMO is needed for the pain in the butt titles like wisdom, teasure hunter, unlucky, kurzick and luxon. The grind for these are excessive.
Noticed i didn't mention lucky, it only requires 10k sucessful lockpicks, and can be supplimented with afk farming every so often. Unlucky requires 20k unsucessful lockpicks, double the work, and at the cost of 30 mil.

October Jade

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Aside from the ludicrous requirements of a few aforementioned title tracks, the thing I despise most is that the title system inhibits the ability to maintain multiple characters. Does anyone want to max out Norn or Lightbringer half a dozen times? No. It's a total waste of effort in the sense that it does nothing to provide enjoyment or fun.

I don't mind the checklist titles so much, but the ones that are essentially "Go to a specific area and clear it 216 times over until this purple bar fills up" have no place in what was supposed to be a casual-friendly environment.

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Some people see titles as "look I'm so much better than you." But for others, while that's a factor, the primary drive is "completionism." "I want to have done everything the game has to offer." etc. For that group of people, super grind titles suck. If that's a really large segment, then it makes sense to reduce title grind to something manageable. Yes it makes GWAMM less elite, but if enough completionists don't even care how elite or not the title is, then it makes sense to put it in easier reach.
Exactly why i'm for this update. I am an armour w h o r e and i would like my toons to have a bunch of the cooloer looking ones. I'm not fond of haivng to grind all my toons to lvl 5 reps on the same title track to get armor.


/still mad that im stuck at 99.9% on GTA: Vice City.

FengShuiDove

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IMO, raise GW:EN rep and make them account wide. When I say raise, I mean to the point where if you play through the game on every character you're say, two NM books + one HM book from max. Why is this beneficial (though by no means perfect)? It encourages you to play through GW:EN on 8 characters and spread the completion books across the title tracks. Play through with half of your 8 characters on HM or do dungeons and you're maxed with the added benefit of having played all characters. I didn't do the math on any of that, but I hope you see what I'm going for.

Speculation: the most likely titles to be changed are the Core character based titles with the exception of Survivor and Maxed titles. Making these account wide without changing the values makes life a bit easier without making the titles weaksauce.

Just some random thoughts. I guess we'll find out in this "maybe" "massive" "update" in "November."

romeus petrus

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And if there were no titles, more players would just quit the game completely because they had nothing left to do.
And yet a lot of players quit the game right after getting GWAMM as they feel as they have "accomplished" what they needed to in the game. Kinda ironic.

And ya I would rather do the same elite areas over and over again in a cooperative gameplay with a team of guildies, than to go afk in a ring, or run around maps hugging walls, or set a macro to use alcohol while Im afk, or buy unided gold and id it, or waste millions on Zkeys, or do the same HFFF run 20k+ times...etc

Need I continue?

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oh you mean like how they are talking about guild wars2? yea no. i would much rather have the little bits of info then the nothing info that were going for guild was 2 i for one dont care if my speculation is wrong. its a fun thing to do and it helps pas the time.
+1, speculation keeps the mind working

Shadowmoon

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Originally Posted by romeus petrus View Post
And yet a lot of players quit the game right after getting GWAMM as they feel as they have "accomplished" what they needed to in the game. Kinda ironic.
Not really, that exactly what kept them playing. If there were no titles, like you always say, they would have been gone months ago once content has dried up.

assassin shaun

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the title update is happening just very, very, very, very slowly

it should be done about a week before GW2

romeus petrus

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Not really, that exactly what kept them playing. If there were no titles, like you always say, they would have been gone months ago once content has dried up.
Jenn, Kaida, markus.. just to name a few of our common friends who pretty much stopped playing right after obtaining a high rank KoaBD.

Racthoh

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Notice anything odd about these pictures? (Kurzick Faction lines)

Also I posted this in the bugs section... a look into the update?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...88#post4315788

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Originally Posted by Racthoh View Post
Notice anything odd about these pictures? (Kurzick Faction lines)

Also I posted this in the bugs section... a look into the update?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...88#post4315788
I would guess that it's something leaked about the coming title update.

That picture of gaining 5k towards the title on buying Amber looks amusing. Please reward more for HFFF, rite?

Winterclaw

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
Seriously, is one employee's "blog" the only official PR that a.net is doing now? Pathetic.

Agreed. It'd be nice if we had someone from Anet who'd keep the community up to date with all the upcoming changes and goings on. If they only had someone like that on their staff...

bj91x

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Originally Posted by romeus petrus View Post
And ya I would rather do the same elite areas over and over again in a cooperative gameplay with a team of guildies, than to go afk in a ring, or run around maps hugging walls, or set a macro to use alcohol while Im afk, or buy unided gold and id it, or waste millions on Zkeys, or do the same HFFF run 20k+ times...etc
My feelings exactly. By now, I've done some missions/quests/areas dozens of times. Why have I done these dozens of times? Simple... to play with players and have fun. Unfortunately, most titles appear to discourage co-op play. The main reason I stopped playing is because everybody is just working on their own titles and nobody is available to co-op with.

While I won't say that titles are bad in general, Anet really needs to rework titles so that it doesn't get in the way of co-op. Like I mentioned many times before, one way to do that is to allow players to gain any faction the player chooses while doing anything. For example, let players gain Luxon faction while doing a GWEN dungeon with other players.

For those without creativity on how this would work story-wise, there are lots of ways to make this make sense. One way is advertisement. By killing enemies in GWEN dungeons or completing missions/quests in non-Luxon areas in the name of a Luxon, you're raising Luxon's awareness. I'm sure Luxons would appreciate more support. Another way is with items. Many collector items are dropped by enemies that have no real use to a player other than merc food. Since Vanguard is always fighting with the Charrs, you'd think they could use donations. How about every time you bring them any metallic collector items that the Vanguard can use to make weapons with, you gain Vanguard point?

freakdaddy

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I agree with this statement actually. Visits by PR reps to forums used to be something you could somewhat look forward to. Now they're so infrequent and typically without substance that I no longer care when they show up as much.
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Reginas no Gaile
is this an insult or a complement, because they're both pretty bad...

TwinRaven

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is this an insult or a complement, because they're both pretty bad...
I dunno about that...I always kinda liked Gaile and her upbeat enthusiasm in the face of bitchyQQs and flamethrower threads. She even PMed me a time or two about things I had concerns about. She may not have always had accurate info (for which she can't be to blamr), but at least she was active and talked with us from timt-to-time...As for Regina...well...I haven't heard/seen enough from her to form an opinion yet.

On Topic: As for titles, I really am curious to see how it all plays out, but hold no expectations one way or the other. I have 15 titles maxed and have no need or desire to continue the grind. Maybe if I'm playing GW2 and discover that 20 titles give me a shiny new do-dad to fondle, I might go back to GW for a looksee, but I don't really intend to waste much time fretting over it until I know for certain it will make a damned bit o' difference.

Shadowspawn X

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I Maybe if I'm playing GW2 and discover that 20 titles give me a shiny new do-dad to fondle, I might go back to GW for a looksee, but I don't really intend to waste much time fretting over it until I know for certain it will make a damned bit o' difference.
At which time it will be completely too late and the impeding HoM lockdown will be in effect. Disallowing you to go back and add anything in it ever again.

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Originally Posted by Racthoh View Post
Notice anything odd about these pictures? (Kurzick Faction lines)

Also I posted this in the bugs section... a look into the update?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...88#post4315788
they fixed that in today's update

TwinRaven

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At which time it will be completely too late and the impeding HoM lockdown will be in effect. Disallowing you to go back and add anything in it ever again.
The end is nigh! Why such a doomsayer? Someone fill your bunny slippers with oatmeal?