Now that favor is about to run out

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

I wonder if they fixed that double display that "the world has lost favor". I was wondering this a few month ago b4 anet bailed out the timer with another 30k, now they had another 3 months to fix it, wonder if they did.

Phineas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

I wonder where the UW speed clearers are going to go... Depends on stocks of scrolls I guess

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phineas View Post
I wonder where the UW speed clearers are going to go... Depends on stocks of scrolls I guess
If they can spend 7k on a set of consumables i'm sure 1k for a scroll won't be a big deal.

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

grind sum titles if u want in

if the bawww'in gets too great they'll prolly have another ss/lb weekend

Phineas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gift3d View Post
If they can spend 7k on a set of consumables i'm sure 1k for a scroll won't be a big deal.
I hear ya, but aren't the scrolls subject to demand/supply pricing, like materials? If the merchant sells out then the price is in the players' hands. Scrolls were 1.3k at trader when I checked a couple of hours ago.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

To answer the question: no.
They were probably to busy with fixing THAT hair on THAT Norn guy that we see for 2 secs if you enter THAT cave while the full moon is shining.
Although if it's cloudy - it's going to be a no-go.

Just think of favor as tapped watter.
It was fun while it lasted - now you'll just have to buy it from the merch.

Zapper901

Zapper901

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Fire and [ICE]

W/

Some guy in my Alliance (who is about average when it comes to knowledge of the game) is telling everybody that it'll just reset to another 30k when the favor runs out. Dunno if that's true, but I didn't think it was.

Shadowspawn X

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phineas View Post
I hear ya, but aren't the scrolls subject to demand/supply pricing, like materials? If the merchant sells out then the price is in the players' hands. Scrolls were 1.3k at trader when I checked a couple of hours ago.
Look at it this way. A party spends one scroll to get into UW/FoW and everybody gets a passage scroll from the chest so the party leaves with eight scrolls. We will never run out of passage scrolls.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

One UWSC run requires 0.125 of scroll, but nets 1 scroll. So anyone who UWSCs and has success rate of at least 12.5% (!!!) should have never ending supply of scrolls.

In other words, successful run generates 7 scrolls. you can succeed in every 8th run and you would never have to buy scrolls from trader.

dasmitchies

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Sacred Forge Knights

W/P

Scrolls are also random drops in UW. Have 18 in 1 week.

WhiteWasabi

WhiteWasabi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

KAMADAN AD1

Zealots of Shiverpeak

E/

NEW scroll price 5k EACH. Why would you sell scrolls for 1K anymore??? The only way to get in is with scrolls soon.

I would expect ecto prices to go up also.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

WTS UW scroll for 105 ecto and 99 shards.





What?

hawaiian143

hawaiian143

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

Mo/

i'm glad i kept all my scrolls from uw and fow, got 50 of each

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

and again...

We'll get another ss/lb weekend i feel

SirSausage

SirSausage

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Poland

Architects of Forgotten Truths [AoFT]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmithyBen View Post
and again...

We'll get another ss/lb weekend i feel
Or they'll revert it back to the old favor system.
Would get more people playing HA again.

Our Lady Of Sorrow

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Guild Name With A [Tag]

N/Mo

if they give another 30k.. then whats the point? just make it perma favor? there is no point with the title system if they just give us some when it ends..

Our Lady Of Sorrow

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Guild Name With A [Tag]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirSausage View Post
Or they'll revert it back to the old favor system.
Would get more people playing HA again.
nice idea.. but..
problem 1 =
you can travel to all districs now..

problem 2 =
they have screwed over everything by making it for everyone.. only to take their cookies away? evil!!

White Lies

White Lies

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

They cant revert the favor thing for the reasons noted above.
Im counting on either a favor bump, them doing nothing to get the economy going again OR they might just have a massive title boost weekend.
Tbh I hope the just bump up favor again.

~Lies

Richardt

Richardt

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2007

http://friendsofloa.com/forum

Leader-Legion of Avalon [LoA] Alliance-Recruiting PM for info!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zapper901 View Post
Some guy in my Alliance (who is about average when it comes to knowledge of the game) is telling everybody that it'll just reset to another 30k when the favor runs out. Dunno if that's true, but I didn't think it was.
Why would they? The last time it was boosted was because ANet didn't anticipate the amount of favor earned during the last LB/SS weekend and we caused the favor tracking thingy to overload, resulting in about 30k minutes of favor to go to Binary Heaven. Last time favor got low they figure they figured they would give that 30k minutes back.

I hope it runs out. Be nice to be earning some favor again instead of just having it sit there.

dilan155

dilan155

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2007

living room

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Our Lady Of Sorrow View Post
nice idea.. but..
problem 1 =
you can travel to all districs now..

problem 2 =
they have screwed over everything by making it for everyone.. only to take their cookies away? evil!!
3. while it will be good for good guilds, guess what happens to the new HA players? yep you guessed it theyll get even worse treatment.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Quote:
Originally Posted by hawaiian143 View Post
i'm glad i kept all my scrolls from uw and fow, got 50 of each
THIS is why scroll prices won't jump. I know many people who have dozens of passage scrolls saved up. Even I've got half a dozen of each and I rarely do FoW or UW runs.

As for Favor running out - It's no big deal, because there will be a TON of people maxing out Drunkard, Sweettooth, & Party-animal titles in the forth-coming week. I don't think it'll hit 30K minutes, but it may be enough to see us through to Christmas, when a whole bunch of other people will be maxing titles. On top of that, generating minutes will probably go much faster after the title re-balance due out in November.

GWEXTREEMFAN

GWEXTREEMFAN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

in my house

N/A

W/E

how about bringing back old system how previously said but making 1 HA win extend gods blessings by 1 min and not care about districts?
great idea lets do it
oh forgot A Net -.-

jaximus

jaximus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

wisc

the november update is with titles. that will probably add a bunch, most likely lux/kurz, id speculate a scale change for lucky/unlucky and im hoping for account wide wisdom/treasure hunter. this would add a bunch of time on the favor clock.

id be in favor of the old favor system again. wait a bit so some scrolls get used up, then keep the scrolls in place but remove the merchant for them. this way solo ecto farmers would use them up faster than the clearers could replenish them. this might renew interest in HA.

Better to burn out

Better to burn out

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

Legion of Blood shadows

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by upier View Post
To answer the question: no.
They were probably to busy with fixing THAT hair on THAT Norn guy that we see for 2 secs if you enter THAT cave while the full moon is shining.
Although if it's cloudy - it's going to be a no-go.

Just think of favor as tapped watter.
It was fun while it lasted - now you'll just have to buy it from the merch.
i dont get the tapped water thing, since when does tapped water run out

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by GWEXTREEMFAN View Post
how about bringing back old system how previously said but making 1 HA win extend gods blessings by 1 min and not care about districts?
great idea lets do it
oh forgot A Net -.-

So we should get one free minute of favour every 12 minutes? That makes sense...

My best guess is that they will let us sweat it out for a month or two and then another massive title weekend.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

The old system sucked. It was PvP, and never meant to be, like the old PvP with no PvP characters. PvP was fixed, removed from the lands of PvE, leaving only rifts and empty arenas behind, and moved to the Battle Isles, were it should have been from the start.

The current one has a little flaw: it depends on something that can't be remade again and again. And with the "title rework" news, people is waiting for the update to keep grindind again.

It should be supported with an additional source of favor time:
* When we are not under favor, for each 10 elite or masters missions or quests completed, one point is added towards getting Favor, as if someone acquired a new title.

* When we are not under favor:
** For every 100 normal quests completed (both repeatable and not repeatable), 1 minute is added.
** For every 10 missions completed, 1 minute is added.
** Every time a challenge record is broken, 1 minute is added.

* At any time, each time a character finishes a campaign, one minute or one point towards Favor starting is added added.

GWEXTREEMFAN

GWEXTREEMFAN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

in my house

N/A

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cale Roughstar View Post
So we should get one free minute of favour every 12 minutes? That makes sense...

My best guess is that they will let us sweat it out for a month or two and then another massive title weekend.
lol why not?
i mean you dont need that long to get into uw -.-
would reduce uw farming massivly meaning ectos finally can close to worth something again

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Doesn't really matter since the end chest always drops a scroll. I can only assume people aren't just leaving them on the floor since they do stack.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

...or Anet could remove the concept of Favor altogether, since it hasn't meant anything since the last SS/LB weekend. More, with the UW and FoW scrolls you don't need Favor anyway. Would fix the 'double message' which OP stated as well.

joshuarodger

joshuarodger

Unbanned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] -- IGN: Swirly

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
* When we are not under favor:
** For every 100 normal quests completed (both repeatable and not repeatable), 1 minute is added.
ohai HFFF..............

Rhamia Darigaz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiteWasabi View Post
NEW scroll price 5k EACH. Why would you sell scrolls for 1K anymore??? The only way to get in is with scrolls soon.

I would expect ecto prices to go up also.
except everyone will have plenty of scrolls already, as explained by zwei in the post above yours.

good luck with that though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Better to burn out View Post
since when does tapped water run out
you don't think it's possible to deplete a reservoir from which a tap draws water?

O Nuxtofulakas

O Nuxtofulakas

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Did u check your closet?

N/

u forgot to mention all solo/duo uw farmers..and omg they are many
the demand for scrolls - if any - will come from them and not from those who prefer UWSC

my2cents

MisterT69

MisterT69

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

E/

Mister nightlover above me is semi-right. It's just the supply is there easy. All of us who UW SC will each get a scroll at the end of every completion, some two. So 1 SC using 1 scroll, if completed, will yield 8+ scrolls. So every completed clears octuples the amount of scrolls from the original amount used to get in, 1. So moar SC's=moar scrolls to meet any demand there may be.

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

Scrolls also drop from monsters in the UW, most solo or duo farms will get 1 drop. ALSO they drop from bosses in HM NOT IN UW OR FOW, so theres also this supply. Somehow I cant see us running out any time soon. And theres also the slower, but still their return of favor. People havent stopped maxing titles, theres just not so many.

[DE]

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmoon View Post
I wonder if they fixed that double display that "the world has lost favor". I was wondering this a few month ago b4 anet bailed out the timer with another 30k, now they had another 3 months to fix it, wonder if they did.
This was totally worth a thread.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by [DE] View Post
This was totally worth a thread.
Isn't it though? Isn't it worth finding out whether ANet cares about fixing mistakes, even if we can't see them?

illidan009

illidan009

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

Volterra, Italy

A/

Not enough title grinding out there to satisfy the Gods? Wow....just when I was about to learn to speed clear UW with my sin >< She was also late to the SF farming game...joined AFTER the SF nerf. And to UB, used a few times after the nerf

Joseph Spiritmaster

Joseph Spiritmaster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

In the little house on the hill, Ascalon City, Presearing

I'm hoping that people will actually start going back to massive title farming... thats what i want to see, though with the Halloween event coming up, the drunkard, party and sweet tooth titles will be flyin'

Phineas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

@ op, no, Anet did not fix it =p

Shadowmoon

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

yep, didn't surprize me