Right...that's fair.

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What Now
Lion's Arch Merchant
#1
"If a player is reported for leeching, that player will receive 2 dishonor points for each report against him. Players who report a team member for leeching without a third of their team also reporting that player will also receive 2 dishonor points."

Me and someone else in the costume brawl reported a ranger that after 8 point's stood at the spawn point for the remainder 11 points not doing anything clearly AFK. Losing due to 1 point which he could of easily made up as half our offense..but the point is.

I get back to town and get a super extended dishonorable hex. Honestly is this the best way to implement this?

Hmm instead of bothering to do anything ourselves we're going to punish the few people who care enough to report a leecher because the rest of the team couldn't get their hands out their pants. Honestly if you're going to be lazy just remove dishonorable for leeching if it can backfire on someone who actually bothers to take the risk of cleaning up the trash.

Could of easily made it so if not enough reported you don't have to do your jobs but punishing people is just..

You can forgive people for botting but not for falling short on reporting a leecher. Thank you.
ac1inferno
ac1inferno
Desert Nomad
#2
No, it's not fair. But you must always keep in mind of those who would abuse the system if there was no drawback. Reports would be made left and right over minor disagreements and silly things like "u nub i dun like u".
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What Now
Lion's Arch Merchant
#3
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Originally Posted by ac1inferno View Post
No, it's not fair. But you must always keep in mind of those who would abuse the system if there was no drawback. Reports would be made left and right over minor disagreements and silly things like "u nub i dun like u".
In which case they could easily be looked over or thrown out for being short on votes, not punishing people for falling short when they cant make their team /report anymore than they can /resign.

There are other ways to get the point across without having it backfire the wrong way.
Shayne Hawke
Shayne Hawke
Departed from Tyria
#4
The Dishonor system sucks, but it's better than nothing.

That's not new news.
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Ctb
Desert Nomad
#5
No, it's not fair, and it's not the best way to do it, but ANET's credo usually seems to be "if it's worth doing, it's worth doing half-assed", so it's what you've got.
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DarkNecrid
Furnace Stoker
#6
Dishonorable system seems to be working:
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I get back to town and get a super extended dishonorable hex. Honestly is this the best way to implement this?
You get a Dishonorable hex when you have 10 or more Dishonor points.

So unless for some reason you're going to tell me you reported 5 leechers in the time span of an hour that each time 1/3rd of your team didn't report (which is incredibly unlikely, good sir.), then you must have left a game prematurely, which really doesn't make you any better than the leecher.
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Lycan Nibbler
Forge Runner
#7
Sounds fair to me - as DarkNecrid said, you are leaving out the other times you obtained the dishonour reward.

Oh and btw 2/5 = 40% > 33%, so it isnt for that fact, maybe you are just leaving the games too early?
jaximus
jaximus
Krytan Explorer
#8
super secret update to remove the penalty if your teammates dont report to?
Ec]-[oMaN
Ec]-[oMaN
Desert Nomad
#9
Reporting someone for afking/leeching never works because there are too many brain dead players in this game. 99% of them don't even know how to report a player anyways. Don't bother using the useless feature.
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Rhamia Darigaz
Desert Nomad
#10
it's perfectly fair as the same rules apply to everyone.
as to whether the rule is a good one, that's a matter of opinion. unfortunately for those who care anet's opinion is the only one that can change their rules.
dilan155
dilan155
Desert Nomad
#11
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Originally Posted by Ctb View Post
No, it's not fair, and it's not the best way to do it, but ANET's credo usually seems to be "if it's worth doing, it's worth doing half-assed", so it's what you've got.
this. anyway ive seen 0 players thats been leeching and has been reported. at first i reported those who leeched but then just said wth and stopped reporting cause i was the only one to report.
Latham
Latham
Frost Gate Guardian
#12
As mentioned before, dont bother using the flawed system till they come up with a genius solution to stop those of us who care enough to report leechers, getting hexed our selfs =( Totally not a fair system, but does work to prevent people abusing it also, just stings when it backfires in ya face when ya team doesnt know what the report feature is
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Rhamia Darigaz
Desert Nomad
#13
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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz View Post
it's perfectly fair as the same rules apply to everyone.
this. *insert some related story from my personal experience that shows why i am biased for or against this rule and call it fair or unfair accordingly as if the fairness of a rule has anything to do with whether or not i like it*
MithranArkanere
MithranArkanere
Underworld Spelunker
#14
It's always the innocent who pays for the sins of the sinner. So those that are in the side of law must know it well.

If you report in dead-mute mode, you may get dishonor too.

Next time talk to you party members and agree to report the leecher.
IF you don't get other 2 to agree with the report, then don't report.

Most people should understand.
And I mean both "what must be done" and the English you should use when there may be people from many countries.
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Rhamia Darigaz
Desert Nomad
#15
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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere View Post
It's always the innocent who pays for the sins of the sinner.
ITT: leeching is a sin
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Ctb
Desert Nomad
#16
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ITT: leeching is a sin
ITT: people who have never heard of hyperbole

And why the hell are you quoting and agreeing with yourself? I smell a sockpuppet account....
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skarhand
Ascalonian Squire
#17
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Originally Posted by Ctb View Post
No, it's not fair, and it's not the best way to do it, but ANET's credo usually seems to be "if it's worth doing, it's worth doing half-assed", so it's what you've got.
If you don't like the way A-net handles things you always have the option of finding another game that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy 100% of the time. It seems like ever thread I go into has everyone complaining about how much they hate "A-net" or Guild wars in general...obviously you must like something about it or you would be doing something else.

Does this confuse anyone but me?

There have been things about the game that irritate me, but I don't run straight to Guru and whine about it. I either get over it or just go do something else.

And sorry, I don't really mean to pick on you in perticular its just that this is the 5th thread that I've read in a row where people are all griping.

Be happy....its a fun game....most of the time. LOL

Just my 2 sense.
Numa Pompilius
Numa Pompilius
Grotto Attendant
#18
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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz View Post
ITT: leeching is a sin
Specifically sloth and greed.

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Originally Posted by skarhand View Post
It seems like ever thread I go into has everyone complaining about how much they hate "A-net" or Guild wars
--- its just that this is the 5th thread that I've read in a row where people are all griping.
Welcome to the Guild Wars community, where negativity equals cool.
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crazybanshee
Desert Nomad
#19
No, I think it's better than nothing. I was in costume brawl, on a terrible team that managed to somehow win, then was getting clobbered because people were being asshats. I was still playing, because at least you get balth faction, but the idiots I was with (who had been standing in one place whining since we started losing 5-1) started reporting me as a leecher, despite the fact that I was the only one NOT leeching. I hope they got stuck with a godawful hex for being moronic. Thankfully not enough reported me for me to get a hex.
The forth fly
The forth fly
Krytan Explorer
#20
if you get the Dishonour hex close guild wars open it again its gone its useless