The height of Immaturity
jaximus
funny thing is, shadowform shouldnt exist in gw. so why complain about one ecto getting leeched? i hope this next update kills the whole ability to perma, then ill laugh at the qq threads. its sad when the gw pug world turns into this perma stole my ecto... something is seriously broken when you can have one player in an area and clear the whole thing.
Numa Pompilius
And people said the Golem thread was silly.
What? An assassin skill stupid & game-breaking? Say it isn't so!
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Originally Posted by jaximus
shadowform shouldnt exist in gw. so why complain about one ecto getting leeched? i hope this next update kills the whole ability to perma, then ill laugh at the qq threads.
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MMSDome
Immaturity and greed are nothing new. I posted screenshots of when I cleared FoW in HM with just me and 2 heros in 1:49 and all people did was demand the builds and flame me because I posted the SS' in hope of people figuring it out on their own.
SHAME ON YOU PEOPLE.
SHAME ON YOU PEOPLE.
romeus petrus
It is unbelievable how many posters still don't understand the point the OP is making. He is not QQing about an ecto being leeched. He is complaining about the chamber sin pulling aggro to the reaper on purpose to wipe the team coz he didn't get the ecto he assumed was naturally his.
WTB posters who read before replying.
WTB posters who read before replying.
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by romeus petrus
IHe is not QQing about an ecto being leeched. He is complaining about the chamber sin pulling aggro to the reaper on purpose to wipe the team coz he didn't get the ecto he assumed was naturally his.
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People in PUGs sometimes do inconsiderate or even stupid things, sometimes for not-very-good reasons. More news at 10.
EmptySkull
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Originally Posted by romeus petrus
It is unbelievable how many posters still don't understand the point the OP is making. He is not QQing about an ecto being leeched. He is complaining about the chamber sin pulling aggro to the reaper on purpose to wipe the team coz he didn't get the ecto he assumed was naturally his.
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Funny thing about the griefing chamber that wiped the party, is that not only did he not get his ecto. But he hurt himself and didn't get an ecto at the end chest. That is whats so funny.
Matter of fact I wished people would leech and not try to steal my agro when at the end of a run we still have time to farm.
There is no leeching in a uw sc run. Everyone paid for their spot. Everyone has a job and did it. If the game assigns you a drop then it is yours. Doesn't matter who actually killed the foe.
Loot Junkie
The problem with UWSC runs is since everybody is assigned to a specific area, it is easy to fall into the mindset that the foes in their area belong to them and hence, any drops from said foes belong only to the one doing the killing and nobody else. Ever seen a movie in which people who live in a small tucked away town believe "outsiders" dont have any business there? It's kind of the same mentality. This is wrong imo, you clear UW as a team, so receive your assigned drops as a team. In the situation where somebody from the vale team "leeches" an ecto from the chamber, it is often unavoidable since the chamber sin has already collected agro and proceeded to deal damage as the vale team is pushing through. Often times the necro has to hang around the labyrinth monument waiting for the chamber sin to kill off the dryders so that the reaper can pop, so he is not intentionally leeching off the chamber if an ecto happens to drop for him while he is waiting to take the restore quest.
Another point to make here is on the average over many runs, the chamber person makes way more ecto than the vale team, and should not be upset over an ecto that assigns to the vale team. They do just as much work as everybody else and usually get jack squat until the end chest. Same thing goes for the mountain terra who, imo, has the toughest job and almost never gets ecto from their area.
Another point to make here is on the average over many runs, the chamber person makes way more ecto than the vale team, and should not be upset over an ecto that assigns to the vale team. They do just as much work as everybody else and usually get jack squat until the end chest. Same thing goes for the mountain terra who, imo, has the toughest job and almost never gets ecto from their area.
romeus petrus
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Originally Posted by Loot Junkie
The problem with UWSC runs is since everybody is assigned to a specific area, it is easy to fall into the mindset that the foes in their area belong to them and hence, any drops from said foes belong only to the one doing the killing and nobody else. Ever seen a movie in which people who live in a small tucked away town believe "outsiders" dont have any business there? It's kind of the same mentality. This is wrong imo, you clear UW as a team, so receive your assigned drops as a team. In the situation where somebody from the vale team "leeches" an ecto from the chamber, it is often unavoidable since the chamber sin has already collected agro and proceeded to deal damage as the vale team is pushing through. Often times the necro has to hang around the labyrinth monument waiting for the chamber sin to kill off the dryders so that the reaper can pop, so he is not intentionally leeching off the chamber if an ecto happens to drop for him while he is waiting to take the restore quest.
Another point to make here is on the average over many runs, the chamber person makes way more ecto than the vale team, and should not be upset over an ecto that assigns to the vale team. They do just as much work as everybody else and usually get jack squat until the end chest. Same thing goes for the mountain terra who, imo, has the toughest job and almost never gets ecto from their area. |
^Best post in the entire thread
Yep that pretty much sums it up. Unless you're a mentally inept 12 yo, you shouldnt worry about other members of the team leeching on you. And if u do get pissed someone leeched an ecto off of you, just keep it in and dont wipe the entire team like a tard.
GWEXTREEMFAN
did i miss something
did item asignment get lost somewhere?
who cares who killed the foe?
items are asigned randomly
live with it....
did item asignment get lost somewhere?
who cares who killed the foe?
items are asigned randomly
live with it....
Reverend Dr
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Originally Posted by romeus petrus
It is unbelievable how many posters still don't understand the point the OP is making. He is not QQing about an ecto being leeched. He is complaining about the chamber sin pulling aggro to the reaper on purpose to wipe the team coz he didn't get the ecto he assumed was naturally his.
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Grj
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^Best post in the entire thread
Yep that pretty much sums it up. Unless you're a mentally inept 12 yo, you shouldnt worry about other members of the team leeching on you. And if u do get pissed someone leeched an ecto off of you, just keep it in and dont wipe the entire team like a tard. |
If your leeching you not doing anything, speedy and efficient /sarcasm More to the point if you consider one of the best guilds at doing these kind of runs why would you get random outsiders in on it?
faraaz
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Excellent so now its okay to leech in these types of groups, nice coming from the guild that prides itself on speed and effienciy of completing elite areas.
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We are talking about people who were in the radius of a person who kills a monster, thereby being randomly assigned a valuable item drop from said monster.
romeus petrus
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Excellent so now its okay to leech in these types of groups, nice coming from the guild that prides itself on speed and efficiency of completing elite areas.
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More to the point if you consider one of the best guilds at doing these kind of runs why would you get random outsiders in on it?
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Learn to read:
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Originally Posted by romeus petrus
Mara (the OP) does on average 12-15 UWSC a day, the most that I know of were 34 back to back UWSC, most of them are with a full guild/alliance team. At least some have 1 to several PUGs to fill up all the remaining spots especially at odd hours.
Your argument would make sense if the OP did 1 UW run a week announced beforehand on the guild status/website. But when UWSC are as natural to you as clicking your TV remote, this argument no longer holds true. |
upier
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Originally Posted by romeus petrus
Mara (the OP) does on average 12-15 UWSC a day, the most that I know of were 34 back to back UWSC, most of them are with a full guild/alliance team. At least some have 1 to several PUGs to fill up all the remaining spots especially at odd hours.
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Originally Posted by faraaz
I've had 2 runs in 2 days where the Chamber sin has had an argument with the vale team and then wiped the ENTIRE run out of malice.
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Shit happens.
You move on.
Now, don't get me wrong - we appreciate the rant because things are getting boring here (and with that in mind I REALLY hope that A.Net will mess up the update ROYALLY because if they get it right, that means we are screwed for a month! I mean surely people can't expect we'll PLAY the game, and if there isn't a royal screw-up then there is like no point in actually hanging around here!), but this rant pretty much expired after we made fun of the OP by saying that he was the necro.
Rhamia Darigaz
dude yeah u guise are right OP, itamz shuld totally go to whoever last-hits the creep, i mean you don't see people just hangin around by their tower not last-hitting enemy creeps and just getting gold for no work rite?
maraxusofk
lol this could have easily been prevented if the party just agreed to pitch 5k to the guy complaining. better than wiping a half way done run at least.
id say both sides are quite justified in this case to their argument. if a drop is assigned to someone, they can go pick it up. however the person doing the killing is also entitled to the drops of the area he is soloing.
id say both sides are quite justified in this case to their argument. if a drop is assigned to someone, they can go pick it up. however the person doing the killing is also entitled to the drops of the area he is soloing.
jaximus
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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz
dude yeah u guise are right OP, itamz shuld totally go to whoever last-hits the creep, i mean you don't see people just hangin around by their tower not last-hitting enemy creeps and just getting gold for no work rite?
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anet needs to just destroy shadow form. people will cry, then they will find a new way to do things.
hmm actually...
"It is recommended that you enter with a party of eight Ascended heroes. Do you still wish to enter Genth's realm with your current group?" best i can understand that means you go in as a group so the drops are split as a group. this area was intended to be difficult with 8 people, but because people insist that because uw/fow are core areas, they say only core/proph skills can be used by creatures down there, its been abused by skills like shadow form. it makes an area meant for a group of 8 working together into a joke.
shadow form needs to be removed and you wont have your petty issues.
Shadowmoon
Whenever i id UW sc, whenever i happen to leach a ecto off of someone elses group he was soloing, if i was ask for it, i alwasy gave it them. Personally if feel it was immature for the player to refuse to give the chamber sin his ecto if it was a group he entirely soloed. Now it doesn't excuse the sin for wiping the group.
IMO both the necro and the sin were at fault. I guess it goes back to not pisses off the guy who can screw up your run.
IMO both the necro and the sin were at fault. I guess it goes back to not pisses off the guy who can screw up your run.
Chocobo1
Vale necros probably get the least drops in the UW SC. If I'm Necroing and a Ecto drops for me I'm taking it. I dont care if I have an easy role, Shadowform tanking isnt the most difficult thing the world. Never seen someone bad mannered enough to actually ruin the run because of that particular reason, but then again I haven't done UW SC since before the UA nerf. 9/10 runs are just terrible ugh. Good effort still doing the bullshit though.
nvmu
this is just outright funny, its a speed clear who cares, why should some1 who solos a part get all the "good" drops when every1 else should get "bad" drops from that part even though they are just as important, if a person wants to b1tch that much they should just go find some where to solo and avoid all people, its not like they waited for the item to go neutral and then picked it up, thats a different story
Shadowmoon
Actually when i think about it, only time this can happen is when necro team should be goin to vale, while chamber sin is killing the chamber. THe only way he could loot the ecto is instead of goin to the vale, he waits for the chamber sin to finish killing the chamber, then run up and loots it.
The necro should be goin to the vale, but instead waits there to loot a leached ecto. So not only is the sin shorted an ecto, but has to wait for the necro to get to vale to trigger unwanted.
Honestly that a very dick move of the necro, and if it was a pug i'd either trigger unwanted on top of him while letting him no that if he didn't leach the ecto he wouldn't have been in chamber during unwanted, or wipe the group. I also leave terrorwebs on top of the ectos until they decays, so during escort the don't get ninja'ed.
If you want more ecto in UWSC, make a ele, and do wastes, otherwize deal with the fact that if you playing necro, only chance for ecto is from 4 groups with 2 other people having equal shots at them. When you play a solo roll, i expect ecto that drop to be who is actually killing, not who happens to be there.
The necro should be goin to the vale, but instead waits there to loot a leached ecto. So not only is the sin shorted an ecto, but has to wait for the necro to get to vale to trigger unwanted.
Honestly that a very dick move of the necro, and if it was a pug i'd either trigger unwanted on top of him while letting him no that if he didn't leach the ecto he wouldn't have been in chamber during unwanted, or wipe the group. I also leave terrorwebs on top of the ectos until they decays, so during escort the don't get ninja'ed.
If you want more ecto in UWSC, make a ele, and do wastes, otherwize deal with the fact that if you playing necro, only chance for ecto is from 4 groups with 2 other people having equal shots at them. When you play a solo roll, i expect ecto that drop to be who is actually killing, not who happens to be there.
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EmptySkull
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Actually when i think about it, only time this can happen is when necro team should be goin to vale, while chamber sin is killing the chamber. THe only way he could loot the ecto is instead of goin to the vale, he waits for the chamber sin to finish killing the chamber, then run up and loots it.
The necro should be goin to the vale, but instead waits there to loot a leached ecto. So not only is the sin shorted an ecto, but has to wait for the necro to get to vale to trigger unwanted. Honestly that a very dick move of the necro, and if it was a pug i'd either trigger unwanted on top of him while letting him no that if he didn't leach the ecto he wouldn't have been in chamber during unwanted, or wipe the group. I also leave terrorwebs on top of the ectos until they decays, so during escort the don't get ninja'ed. If you want more ecto in UWSC, make a ele, and do wastes, otherwize deal with the fact that if you playing necro, only chance for ecto is from 4 groups with 2 other people having equal shots at them. When you play a solo roll, I expect ecto that drop to be who is actually killing, not who happens to be there. |
It is the height of immaturity when you fail a group because you didn't get what you think is yours.
The only time one can have a drop that is assigned to another is when it is agreed upon before the mission begins. Duo farm groups, or whatever. But until uwsc groups start agreeing that you have to share ectos, well then you don't have too.
byteme!
Dang an epic thread that started because of a disagreement over "1" ecto. How much lower can we go?
Shadowmoon
Well then don't group with me then, if a group i soloed drops an gold/ecto assigned to someone else, i'll stop killign the group if the person starts camping waiting for me to finish killing. If the person doesn't move along, then i'll pull the group to him, to motivate him to leave. If he rather die or wipe the party for a ecto he leached, that his problem, i have no remorse for what happens. If the necro is camping for a drop, he is not doin his job in vale.
nvmu
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If the necro is camping for a drop, he is not doin his job in vale.
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has gw really come to everyone farming for cash to get more "1337" and b1tch when someone else gets a decent drop
Amnel Ithtirsol
I can write a QQ novel on my recent experiences in UW SC PuGs.
Seems idiots and leechers find more and more ways to infiltrate the groups... Maybe there are no more good players left out there?
GW2 should have an age restriction of 21+ and be subscription based.
Edit: Not sure if even that will help tho...
Seems idiots and leechers find more and more ways to infiltrate the groups... Maybe there are no more good players left out there?
GW2 should have an age restriction of 21+ and be subscription based.
Edit: Not sure if even that will help tho...
lordheinous
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Originally Posted by Amnel Ithtirsol
I can write a QQ novel on my recent experiences in UW SC PuGs.
Seems idiots and leechers find more and more ways to infiltrate the groups... Maybe there are no more good players left out there? GW2 should have an age restriction of 21+ and be subscription based. tyvm, bb |
Issac
Something similar happened to me a long time ago. A ecto dropped for me and I died. Punk didn't res me and once the timer on the ecto was up, she took it and left. I was pissed.
nvmu
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Something similar happened to me a long time ago. A ecto dropped for me and I died. Punk didn't res me and once the timer on the ecto was up, she took it and left. I was pissed.
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Amnel Ithtirsol
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Originally Posted by lordheinous
tbh, some of the most immature people I've encountered in guildwars have been adults. For example, today, I joined a new guild, and when someone in alliance started a ha group, I decided to join in. Got on vent, the people on were all adults. What were they doing? Playing some sort of game involving burping and farting on vent. I had to pretend that my mic was broken, they wanted me to play too....
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epic 'venting'
Seriously though, I've also witnessed some crazy behavior from 'more mature' players. So maybe an age restriction wont help much...
It is just sad to see the game we all love and enjoy failing more and more each day. It used to be full of helpful, friendly people. Now, not so much
nvmu
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epic 'venting' Seriously though, I've also witnessed some crazy behavior from 'more mature' players. So maybe an age restriction wont help much... It is just sad to see the game we all love and enjoy failing more and more each day. It used to be full of helpful, friendly people. Now, not so much |
Amnel Ithtirsol
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Its because all of those players h/h or just stick to friends/guild/alliance/ OR they got life's
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Part of the problem with having lives is that you have to balance game time with stuff going on in RL. So when you only have 30 minutes to play before you have to take the wife shopping (for example :P ) and everyone in the guild / alliance is busy, what do you do?
You PuG.
nvmu
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Guild / Alliance runs are the best, agreed, but members are not always available.
Part of the problem with having lives is that you have to balance game time with stuff going on in RL. So when you only have 30 minutes to play before you have to take the wife shopping (for example :P ) and everyone in the guild / alliance is busy, what do you do? You PuG. |
macie28
baaahh another QQ thread. Immaturity is a given for any online game, deal with it.
Sjeng
First post was just greed.
Height of Immaturity imo was all those Golems blocking the view of the Mad King during Halloween. How lame. Wouldn't even move if ask politely. Annoying kids. Totally ruined it for me. Fortunately I can look at my Thorn mini...
Height of Immaturity imo was all those Golems blocking the view of the Mad King during Halloween. How lame. Wouldn't even move if ask politely. Annoying kids. Totally ruined it for me. Fortunately I can look at my Thorn mini...
romeus petrus
The thing is if you do a certain area often enough, you soon begin to recognize good players and bad ones. And soon enough greedy players will start being excluded from good teams. So remember names guys.
faraaz
I'd put up the list of 42 names I have on my blacklist if it wasnt against the rules -_-
Kusandaa
- Chamber is killing stuff;
- Aatxe patrol gets close to stairs, vale tank grabs it, necro starts killing;
- Ecto drops from chamber mobs... for the vale team.
I've had it happen to me and the chamber dude bugged me for the ecto until the run was over. I was nice and gave it to him, but it did drop for me and I was doing my job, therefore it should have been mine and I should have kept it.
Same thing if necro is being told to wait to take restore - happens in the case where you run with 2 necros (one usually stays back to take restore when chamber kills the terrorwebs). Drops for him, he's doing his job, he should keep it.
And killing the whole team for ONE ecto, out of spite, is one of the most childish and immature things I've ever seen. It's like a spoiled 5-year-old kid throwing a tantrum because he wants a toy.
- Aatxe patrol gets close to stairs, vale tank grabs it, necro starts killing;
- Ecto drops from chamber mobs... for the vale team.
I've had it happen to me and the chamber dude bugged me for the ecto until the run was over. I was nice and gave it to him, but it did drop for me and I was doing my job, therefore it should have been mine and I should have kept it.
Same thing if necro is being told to wait to take restore - happens in the case where you run with 2 necros (one usually stays back to take restore when chamber kills the terrorwebs). Drops for him, he's doing his job, he should keep it.
And killing the whole team for ONE ecto, out of spite, is one of the most childish and immature things I've ever seen. It's like a spoiled 5-year-old kid throwing a tantrum because he wants a toy.
bryann380
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Height of Immaturity imo was all those Golems blocking the view of the Mad King during Halloween
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