looking for some help with 'sin builds - reqs inside >

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

08 Nov 2008 at 13:55 - 1

hey all...

new to playing PvE 'sins so was wanting some help with builds...

I would like it to be deadly arts based - I like the skills xD

reqs:

NOT AP - I will lynch anyone who posts AP builds
deadly arts as primary skill line
good enough for vanqs etc.
2nd prof. is irrelevent - post anything I can change as I actually get through the game :P

thats all I think

peace y'all

Picuso

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

far far away

08 Nov 2008 at 15:41 - 2

[Deadly Paradox][Dancing Daggers][Entangling Asp][Falling Lotus Strike][Vampiric Assault][Signet Of Deadly Corruption][Aura Of Displacement][Signet Of Shadows]

You need external Blind and some Conditions more

(Lolz build, don't flame me ^^')

payne

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

england (currently located on the south coast)

08 Nov 2008 at 15:43 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Picuso

[Deadly Paradox][Dancing Daggers][Entangling Asp][Falling Lotus Strike][Vampiric Assault][Signet Of Deadly Corruption][Signet Of Toxic Shock][Signet Of Shadows]

You need external Blind and some Conditions more

(Lolz build, don't flame me ^^') well at least you bothered posting ty

ok try something diff..

primary attribute: deadly arts
can use other attributes as well ----just clearing this up xD

elites as well please do have them all and sufficient tomes :P

Picuso

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

far far away

08 Nov 2008 at 15:45 - 4

The best Damage Dealers skills in Deadly Arts are signets, so try to abuse them :S

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

08 Nov 2008 at 17:23 - 5

The only thing that Deadly Arts can do efficiently is the Signet 'Sin and... Assassins' Promise.

[echo][arcane echo][signet of toxic shock][dancing daggers][entangling asp][deadly paradox][epidemic][resurrection signet]

Maybe that?

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

08 Nov 2008 at 17:24 - 6

primary deadly arts builds without assassin's promise fail

Flightmare

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Infinite Omega Negatives

08 Nov 2008 at 17:38 - 7

Doesn't [deadly paradox] disable most skills on the bar?
Maybe it's better to go [deadly haste], but you have to invest some point into crit strikes.
Allso take a look at [disrupting dagger] and [impale].
[assassin's promise] as elite, allso works great with several pve only skills.

Picuso

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

far far away

08 Nov 2008 at 17:47 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flightmare

Doesn't [deadly paradox] disable most skills on the bar? DP only disables Attack Skills (Dagger Skills), not Spells. That's why Assacaster is so "famous".

wind fire and ice

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2008

There

[ToA]

08 Nov 2008 at 18:25 - 9

AP is the best Deadly Arts elite..with out it the long recharges make you useless,sorry.

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

08 Nov 2008 at 19:32 - 10

Deadly Arts is a PvP line, [assassin's promise] lets you take a PvP chain into PvE and still get some use out of it. Meh. Recharges are a &%*(^*% indeed.

[keystone signet]? [signet of midnight][signet of shadows]? Mesmer seems the most likely secondary so far... take [cry of pain] while you're at it

MegaVolti

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2008

Me/Rt

09 Nov 2008 at 01:12 - 11

Why use Signets for a Sin? Me/A will always be better at that then A/Me.

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

09 Nov 2008 at 01:58 - 12

Deadly arts in pve isnt that great. If you had to use something I would go with Shadow Prison, Iron Palm, Stonesoul Strike, Entangling Asp, Stonesoul's Copy (cant remember name), signet of toxic shock and finish him. It works better with Assassins Promise, but I suppose it could work here as well.

Stealth Bomberman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2008

09 Nov 2008 at 05:38 - 13

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

09 Nov 2008 at 06:59 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Bomberman View Post

Quote:

Originally Posted by payne

new to playing PvE 'sins so was wanting some help with builds...

I would like it to be deadly arts based - I like the skills xD

reqs:

deadly arts as primary skill line
good enough for vanqs etc. 1) Ur build is for AB.
2) It doesnt use deadly as its primary attribute
3) Its pretty meh anywayz, a 6 skill chain with no IAS and no reliable deep wound, and no chance of survivability. (Yes fang has deepwound, but triggering it is unreliable, and running a 10 second "spike" is crap.

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

09 Nov 2008 at 09:36 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Bomberman

[glyph of renewal][shadow fang][black mantis thrust][jungle strike][trampling ox][falling spider][blades of steel][signet of toxic shock]

good gank build for ab.

if u need a pve deadly arts build ur gonna haveta go with AP. 1. Build is irrelevant
2. Build makes babies cry with its lack of Deep Wound

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

09 Nov 2008 at 12:32 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Bomberman

[glyph of renewal][shadow fang][black mantis thrust][jungle strike][trampling ox][falling spider][blades of steel][signet of toxic shock]

good gank build for ab.

if u need a pve deadly arts build ur gonna haveta go with AP. it's pretty sexy, i like it. teleport in, do ur combo, teleport away activating the deep wound, finish it with SOTS from afar, strike a cool pose... very ninja-like.

obviously for ab.

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

09 Nov 2008 at 13:09 - 17

ONOEZ! You dont like AP...I cant believe that you hate the most ossum skill in deadly arts line! Without it your deadly arts build will never be as effective.

Dont be a fool and run something like:

[build prof=a/n box][assassins promise][pain inverter][deadly paradox][dancing daggers][entangling asp][signet of toxic shock][finish him!][shadow sanctuary][/build]
And at least support you party in some way thru pi or if you are really freakish and dont want AP try:

[build prof=a/me box][lyssas aura][deadly paradox][dancing daggers][entangling asp][signet of toxic shock][finish him!][ebon battle standard of honor][optional][/build]
Infinite energiez are gud...I think. Fit [you move like a dwarf], [disrupting dagger] or [crippling dagger] into optionals.

Stealth Bomberman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2008

09 Nov 2008 at 17:58 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

it's pretty sexy, i like it. teleport in, do ur combo, teleport away activating the deep wound, finish it with SOTS from afar, strike a cool pose... very ninja-like.

obviously for ab.

at least somebody has an open mind. geez it feels like every1 here that plays sins use the exact same build in pvp and one for pve and never change. have some creativity ffs and stop QQ about other ppls builds. use it before u kill it.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

09 Nov 2008 at 18:05 - 19

Creativity and efficiency are concepts that of which are distant from each other.

Certain bars types have certain rules, and your bar doesn't follow many of them. Heck, they aren't even relevent to the thread.

snaek

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

09 Nov 2008 at 18:21 - 20

if ur not gonna run ap
u mite as well run no elite at all

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

09 Nov 2008 at 18:25 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth Bomberman

geez it feels like every1 here that plays sins use the exact same build in pvp and one for pve and never change. because those builds are only ones that work.

X Cytherea X

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

A/Mo

09 Nov 2008 at 20:43 - 22

^false. and the build he posted was fine. it had repeatability, teleport in, teleport out, snare, big damage, kd, and deepwound. not everything, but most of the good stuff. and it had 2 deadly arts skills so it's not completely irrelevant to the thread.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

09 Nov 2008 at 20:57 - 23

The OP didn't say "Deadly Arts Skills", the OP said something along the lines of "Primarily Deadly Arts".

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

09 Nov 2008 at 22:34 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by X Cytherea X View Post

Let medisappoint you then, build he posted with gor and shadow fang was allready in use by some players so...I was rite.

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

10 Nov 2008 at 02:48 - 25

GoR Shadow Fang isnt a bad build, the bar he posted was bad. But this is irrelevant because its not primarily focused on a deadly arts bar.

Oh and Cyntheria, relying on a deepwound thats going to come like 3-4 seconds after your spike is pointless. They are either dead at that stage or healed such that DW does nothing.

Actually, thinking about shadow fang, maybe that old shadow prison build that was run in sinsplit.

[Glyph of Renewal][Shadow Fang][Iron Palm][Falling Spider][Vampiric Assault][Impale][Signet of Toxic Shock][Optional]

Cant remember atts, think it was 15 deadly, like 11+1 dagger and rest in crit.

Stealth Bomberman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2008

10 Nov 2008 at 02:53 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminarus