Ok first off, blood ritual is for me. I keep it disabled, and on the occasion that i may be starting to get low on energy, i cast it on myself. Hardly makes the whole team build bad.

So what prof are you playing? If you are a dervish like you status says you have no need in additional energy management unless youve failed somewere somehow, derv will gain good energy from enchantments ending on it which is more than enough to cover the cost of attack skills, if you have problems with energy either check what skills youve used or how the attribute points are spread, the problem should be there. And what do you mean it doesnt make it bad? One bad skill there, one useless skill choice here and voila, your build is terrible. BR was just a mere example.

Quote: And yes, when i get rid of the hex/condition remover, i do add [[foul feast] to work with [[infuse condition]. But again, that hardly makes the whole build bad. Get this: when you dont run foul feast there is no need in infuse condition and you can replace it with some more useful skill like ectra prot, hex removal, whatever although infuse+foul feast is a very effective combo in keeping your party free of conditions and again, bad stuff adds up and does make a build bad.

Quote: I see you changed your thread around to be worded differently. I think you mean can't and not can. But regardless, wouldnt it be safe to say that since my build has NO trouble with any bosses, multiple bosses, multiple mobs, or multiple monks; that it would be more effective than yours? because when it comes down to it, isnt that the bottom line? Survival and rate of kill? i havent said that it has trouble with bosses or neither I have mentioned it having trouble with multiple mobs as sabway is really good at coping with overaggro. What I meant is that it is all around pressure build that pretty much ends up killing the entire mob at once as opposed to quicky spiking down a target which may be handy when facing a a healing boss, but thats generally the andvantage that discordway has over sabway so no need to be specific.

But if you are going to compare builds I'd say that 6 hero d-way Ive suggested in this thread would beat yours any day.

Quote: I just wonder why you were incapable of offering constructive criticism from the very beginning. In stead you open with flame throwing and insults. I find it funny that you ask for constructive criticism on your own threads but your first instinct is to call people bad/incompetent players in other threads. Hypocritical much? Who said i was incapable? Im very capable, maybe thats why I allow myself to enjoy some flaming first!

But seriously I freak out when people pretend to be better than anyone for example flaming pvx boasting about being aweasomely creative and post stuff like you have, seriously, creativity for the sake of creativety is stupidity. Thats why I pretty much hate turbo, hard to forget when he said that a sabway from pvx performs worse than completely identical sabway on guru, identical, not even a slight difference, stupid.

Quote: First off, im not flaming PvX wiki. I think it is a great site for new players who dont know better or dont care to put effort forth to create their own build to go to find a build that just "works". Im saying that there is nothing special for MOST of the PvX builds posted, and MOST of the builds can be improved upon. PvX builds are fine, pvp section is perfect becaause pvp scrubs and observer trolls are very weary of meta, and thats how it should be otherwise the site will be flooded by cripshot touchers and die. PvE has too much theorycrafting to it but is still nice, those scrubs know whats efficient, I wouldnt say that those builds can be improved upon, no put it this way, you dont need to keep them 100% identical, you are free to add variants/tweak them for specific area but that would be a variant and not supposed to be on the main bar thats why they have a variants section.

Quote: I was however making fun of the "OMG PvX builds are sooo LEET" people who think they have found the holy grail because they found a touch ranger. When i started playing, i was tweaking the PvX builds to suit my playstyle. And i still peek at Pvxwiki from time to time to get ideas and see what the hero builds look like. But its all still the same crap, every build has [resurrection signet] stapled to it and they are still just good generic builds. Hardly the cats pajamas. Dont agree on rez sig, those scrubs hate rezzing in pve but see the bold bit in your quote, thats what you finally got right about pvx, generic. Everything is meant to be generic but you can add variants to it but as I said, variants stay variants and that doesnt make pvx bad hence its great to track meta and stay updated on the game.

Quote: But none the less, thank you for the advice on the discord team build. I will look it over and the parts that are unbiased, i MAY take into consideration and try it out. Go try it, really efficient, should work like a charm.

And tell me dude, what is so biased about my suggestions? Explain it to me in a factual manner.

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I dont need a 6th [[discord] and i always liked [[jagged bones], but maybe ill just give him [[discord] and then give my monk [[divert hexes]. If so ill probably revamp the whole prot build. Stop being stoopit and get rid of jagged, you have enough energy and minion bombing shouldnt be your primary concern. D-way =/= sabway, get it, only thing a full on bomber will do is energy which you have plenty already anything else is done by discord with bombing stuff.

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I do use [[blood ritual] sometimes for the occasion where my [[assassins promise] misses, or i have to change target priority while ap is on a different enemy. Usually i just keep it disabled, but i plan on keeping it just as a reserve. Scrap it please it costs you too much, lots of better options.

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I like [[dark bond] and ill probably keep it on the bar just because he has the points spec to blood magic for [[blood ritual] If you are such a br addict know that 3 blood magic points is enuff for it, and taking a horrible long cast long recharge anchant that does nothing to your party just becaause you have 3 points in blood magic is pretty bad.

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I did notice [[rejuvenation] dying pretty fast, ill just swap it out for [[weapon of warding] although [[rejuvenation] was throwing some powerful heals while alive And replace second copy of death nova with life, ossum spirit.

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I though i had [[malign intervention] in there somewhere, i do like that skill ill have to double check. but i could have sworn that i already use it.
Ill play with [[veratas gaze] and and see what i can turn out.. but i never did care for the verata skills just because they seemed buggy. It works but...dont bother, never found it effective way too buggy on heroes, also two skill slots to raise one minion, cmon dude there are better hexes, better options.