Good program, but I find it awkward it puts pd in 3rd.
A player is better off simply going to the thread (at least for GvGs) and looking at Asp or my predictions, and going with those. The things this program takes into account doesn't exactly reflect a lot of important changes, for example roster changes with players not being able to play, smurfs, guild remakes, how much practice they had this past month, how well they're doing this month against other top guilds, etc.
Plus if you didn't care, just pick the top 8 ranked guilds every time.
Xunlai Tournament Vote Aid
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zwei2stein
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Good program, but I find it awkward it puts pd in 3rd.
A player is better off simply going to the thread (at least for GvGs) and looking at Asp or my predictions, and going with those. The things this program takes into account doesn't exactly reflect a lot of important changes, for example roster changes with players not being able to play, smurfs, guild remakes, how much practice they had this past month, how well they're doing this month against other top guilds, etc. Plus if you didn't care, just pick the top 8 ranked guilds every time. |
For future versions I plan to take into account amount of practice guild had (Number of qualifier points should reflect that nicely) as well as Guild ladder fluctuations (total rating change in past month?) to rate performance gains/losses thanks to guild changing.
Maybe we can cooperate? My app could, for example, download predictions of someone competent and vote according to them. That allows it to be "XMP for lazy" while also giving quality results.
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Hey, it appears you've added the options 1v1 and GvG
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Massive Impulsa
Ehm, lol as i am such a noob i didnt really understand a shit of this 
- But as other said it would be GREAT if u could your last results (intersested in HvH:P) But ye nice program 
- But as other said it would be GREAT if u could your last results (intersested in HvH:P) But ye nice program
Navaros
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A player is better off simply going to the thread (at least for GvGs) and looking at Asp or my predictions, and going with those.
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Fril Estelin
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That is made hard and a pain in the butt to do because everyone keeps listing their predictions by guild tags instead of guild names, and the guild tags are not listed in the XTH website page.
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Maybe we can cooperate? My app could, for example, download predictions of someone competent and vote according to them. That allows it to be "XMP for lazy" while also giving quality results.
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That is made hard and a pain in the butt to do because everyone keeps listing their predictions by guild tags instead of guild names, and the guild tags are not listed in the XTH website page.
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Fril Estelin
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Or better yet, the user can choose one of the three outputs: computerized results, user-predictions, or a weighted average of both.
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zwei2stein
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It's also an idea I wanted to mention
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Bobulation
Is there a way to make it predict for 8 accounts without having to switch the info every time?
Fril Estelin
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Is there a way to make it predict for 8 accounts without having to switch the info every time?
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1) copy the last line (starting with "java -cp") 8 times;
2) change for each line the "%1 %2 %3 %4" parameters to the information of each of your 8 accounts, respectively: "email password number" (you can add a fourth parameter "GvG" or "1v1" if you only want to vote for one or the other).
P.S.: 8 accounts!?!?!?!!!!
MrGuildBoi
Chocobo1
Yeap gettin same error.
Bobulation
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Yes, copy the file "predictor.cmd" in the same folder (or better, in a place where you store your GW stuff, but then you have to add at the beginning of the file a "cd Folder_Where_The_XTH_Predictor_IS" command) and:
1) copy the last line (starting with "java -cp") 8 times; 2) change for each line the "%1 %2 %3 %4" parameters to the information of each of your 8 accounts, respectively: "email password number" (you can add a fourth parameter "GvG" or "1v1" if you only want to vote for one or the other). P.S.: 8 accounts!?!?!?!!!! |
One more question, i got this working on one computer, must have been from some other time, but on my main computer (its Vista x64), the .cmd opens and closes really quick. Anyone know how to fix that?
Fril Estelin
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One more question, i got this working on one computer, must have been from some other time, but on my main computer (its Vista x64), the .cmd opens and closes really quick. Anyone know how to fix that?
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And about the error, I wonder if the fact that the december 1v1 page doesn't exist maybe the code.
zwei2stein
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It is fixed in new version (ETA couple of minutes.)
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here it is: http://gw.zweistein.cz/RewardPointsPredictor_0.1.2.zip
Evil Neato
You doing anything about HB players who basically change their names monthly? lol
BabyJ
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One more question, i got this working on one computer, must have been from some other time, but on my main computer (its Vista x64), the .cmd opens and closes really quick. Anyone know how to fix that? |
It took me a little while and a little searching to figure this out myself. Vista just has to do everything bass ackwards.
baltazar knight
Very Nice Z it finally worked after 50 min trying to use it.
Let's hope i get more then 80 prediction pts hehe
Let's hope i get more then 80 prediction pts hehe
Bobulation
More questions wewt...
' java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
I have java installed though
' java' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
I have java installed though
kuramoto
@Bobulation:
Start > Run > "sysdm.cpl" > Advanced tab > Environment Variables button
The bottom half of the window that pops up is labeled "System variables". Find the variable "PATH" and edit it (Edit button at the bottom). You will need to add the path to your Java executable (java.exe) at the end of the variable "PATH" so Windows knows where to find it (the installer doesn't do this automatically). First, add a semicolon to the end of whatever is already there (different entries are separated by semicolons). Then, add the appropriate path. For example, if you installed Java to "C:\Program Files\Java" (default location?), you need to add "C:\Program Files\Java\bin" after the semicolon. You'll have to logoff/restart (don't remember off the top of my head) to make Windows load the new settings.
Start > Run > "sysdm.cpl" > Advanced tab > Environment Variables button
The bottom half of the window that pops up is labeled "System variables". Find the variable "PATH" and edit it (Edit button at the bottom). You will need to add the path to your Java executable (java.exe) at the end of the variable "PATH" so Windows knows where to find it (the installer doesn't do this automatically). First, add a semicolon to the end of whatever is already there (different entries are separated by semicolons). Then, add the appropriate path. For example, if you installed Java to "C:\Program Files\Java" (default location?), you need to add "C:\Program Files\Java\bin" after the semicolon. You'll have to logoff/restart (don't remember off the top of my head) to make Windows load the new settings.
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@Fril Estelin- Just set it up for all 8 accounts, thanks for your help too
This is so nice, all i have to do is double click an icon once a month and i get lots of free money.
Evil Neato
Here's what it says atm for the lazy/incompetent/paranoid.
1v1:
Russia F T W 3.0,
Teh Mister Unknownz 5.0,
Hadshi Teh Ranger 5.375,
Assel No Lifer Haha 6.0,
Oo No Chance Oo 9.0,
K M T 10.5,
My Stef 12.5,
First Time Or Not 16.0
GvG:
Vent Rage 3.0
Team Paradigm 5.0
Rebel Rising 5.3125,
Dangerous And Moving 6.0,
Steel Phoenix 7.0625,
Virtual Escape 7.5,
Dangerous Pumpkins 7.75,
Anonymous Amateurs 9.0,
The Bouncers 10.0,
Pandas For World Domination 10.5,
I Disposable Heroes I 10.5,
No Mercy For Ducks 12.0,
Coloring Book 13.0,
Fish Sphere 15.0,
Big Bomb 16.0
1v1:
Russia F T W 3.0,
Teh Mister Unknownz 5.0,
Hadshi Teh Ranger 5.375,
Assel No Lifer Haha 6.0,
Oo No Chance Oo 9.0,
K M T 10.5,
My Stef 12.5,
First Time Or Not 16.0
GvG:
Vent Rage 3.0
Team Paradigm 5.0
Rebel Rising 5.3125,
Dangerous And Moving 6.0,
Steel Phoenix 7.0625,
Virtual Escape 7.5,
Dangerous Pumpkins 7.75,
Anonymous Amateurs 9.0,
The Bouncers 10.0,
Pandas For World Domination 10.5,
I Disposable Heroes I 10.5,
No Mercy For Ducks 12.0,
Coloring Book 13.0,
Fish Sphere 15.0,
Big Bomb 16.0
MarlinBackna
Very nice tool! I don't really follow GvG or 1v1, so these choices are probably better than the ones I would ever make, as the last time I tried Xunlai, I got 0 tickets. :P It was pretty simple, I must say, but I have programming experience, so I knew how to work the command prompt. GUI is for noobs, anyway. 
Thanks.
Thanks.
Junior Gong
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Here's what it says atm for the lazy/incompetent/paranoid.
GvG: Vent Rage 3.0 Team Paradigm 5.0 Rebel Rising 5.3125, Dangerous And Moving 6.0, Steel Phoenix 7.0625, Virtual Escape 7.5, Dangerous Pumpkins 7.75, Anonymous Amateurs 9.0, The Bouncers 10.0, Pandas For World Domination 10.5, I Disposable Heroes I 10.5, No Mercy For Ducks 12.0, Coloring Book 13.0, Fish Sphere 15.0, Big Bomb 16.0 |
Nice joke, either that or there is something seriously wrong with this program, and no KMD is bad they are usually always a lock for a silver, and oh yea not including the winner of last months MaT and most likely winner of this month's MaT is bad too. The day 4 American guilds take top 4 is the day that.....well it'll never happen.
zwei2stein
I forgot to ask right after ponits were awarded: how much points did you get?
I got 55 myself
Thanks for feedback.
Winner of Last MAT should be predicted pretty high, unless they sucked really, really bad in past. Maybe they did not qualify yet? This will not predict for unqualified guilds because it is kinda pointless.
I got 55 myself
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Nice joke, either that or there is something seriously wrong with this program, and no KMD is bad they are usually always a lock for a silver, and oh yea not including the winner of last months MaT and most likely winner of this month's MaT is bad too. The day 4 American guilds take top 4 is the day that.....well it'll never happen.
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Winner of Last MAT should be predicted pretty high, unless they sucked really, really bad in past. Maybe they did not qualify yet? This will not predict for unqualified guilds because it is kinda pointless.
Yarly
I like how much effort you've put into this mate.
But i also can't help laughing at what your program predicts. Its really bad at its job.
But i also can't help laughing at what your program predicts. Its really bad at its job.
Nightow
How do we find out who won the last MAT?
EDIT: Yes, picked up 55 points in the end.
EDIT: Yes, picked up 55 points in the end.
Fril Estelin
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I forgot to ask right after ponits were awarded: how much points did you get?
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Its really bad at its job.
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How do we find out who won the last MAT?
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http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...08/default.php
Abedeus
A piece of advice - don't check the source with Google Chrome. Only Firefox/probably Opera will show your user_id...
Div
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GvG:
Vent Rage 3.0 Team Paradigm 5.0 Rebel Rising 5.3125, Dangerous And Moving 6.0, Steel Phoenix 7.0625, Virtual Escape 7.5, Dangerous Pumpkins 7.75, Anonymous Amateurs 9.0, The Bouncers 10.0, Pandas For World Domination 10.5, I Disposable Heroes I 10.5, No Mercy For Ducks 12.0, Coloring Book 13.0, Fish Sphere 15.0, Big Bomb 16.0 |
1) This completely misses guilds that aren't qualified yet (fix: run this on the last day)
2) Terrible teams that play a lot are ranked high. Vent rage being highest by a large margin? pd second? Are you serious? They'd be lucky if they got top 8. (fix: weigh this with actual predictions made by Mitch/me/Asp)
People just need to make the extra effort (5 minutes maybe?) of going to the thread and looking at what predictions others are making. I generally get 100 or more RPs predicting this, with 80 being the lowest I've gotten. That's at least 5 zkeys more than what this set of predictions gives you, so I'd say 5 extra minutes spent for 5+ more zkeys is worth it?
Nightow
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Check each month here (that's what the program is doing!):
http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...08/default.php |
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Well since the program's job is not to optimise the predictions but rather give a very fast and not totally dumb prediction, it's doing the job perfectly fine.
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I'd do better just picking the 8 highest ranked guilds (rawr, KMD, DM, sup, NOW, AA, WWF, vE) than a list with vent rage and team paradigm. In fact, my predicted top 8 based on actual team skill (and of course it'll be off depending on matchups in elims) contains 6 guilds in the "top 8" list, versus 4 in the generated list.
Fril Estelin
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People just need to make the extra effort (5 minutes maybe?) of going to the thread and looking at what predictions others are making.
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But your idea of looking at the guild ladder directly is interesting...
P.S.: I used to observe and check the Guru threads (including your posts), but came to a point where I didn't have the time; that's where this tool comes in handy. I know that the balance time/benefit doesn't have to change much, yet sometimes time is of essence.
P.S. 2: this month, I'll try automated prediction on 1account and gather info from Guru thread to have a feel of the difference.
zwei2stein
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I'd have to argue against the "not totally dumb prediction"
I'd do better just picking the 8 highest ranked guilds (rawr, KMD, DM, sup, NOW, AA, WWF, vE) than a list with vent rage and team paradigm. In fact, my predicted top 8 based on actual team skill (and of course it'll be off depending on matchups in elims) contains 6 guilds in the "top 8" list, versus 4 in the generated list. |
For next prediction, I will have modified algorithm, so we will see about quality by then, but it will not be anywhere as good as human with inside info.
Fril Estelin
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As said before somewhere else, if you are willing to supply RSS feed or something similar with your, better, predictions, then we can make this tool use your predictions instead of robotic ones.
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P.S.: I'll help with coding in 2009 if you want.
Hara Makoto
it's not working for me, what predictions are you guys getting on this?
Bobulation
New predictions, seems better than before, but still has some bad guilds in the top...
Whats Going On
Vent Rage
We Want Cookies
Team Paradigm
Rebel Rising
Dangerous and Moving
Steel Phoenix
Virtual Escape
Whats Going On
Vent Rage
We Want Cookies
Team Paradigm
Rebel Rising
Dangerous and Moving
Steel Phoenix
Virtual Escape
sykoone
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New predictions, seems better than before, but still has some bad guilds in the top...
Whats Going On Vent Rage We Want Cookies Team Paradigm Rebel Rising Dangerous and Moving Steel Phoenix Virtual Escape |
Bobulation
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Only three of those guilds made top 8, so it seems a bit off. Looks like about 7 pp, so 50 rp. No offense, but you'd probably have better luck just cramming 8 guilds from the first page at random in the list.
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Yu Gi Oh Wtf Oo
Russia F T W
Teh Mister Unknownz
Hadshi Teh Ranger
Tsu Le Cordonbleu
Assel No Lifer Haha
The Lucky Pig
Oo No Chance Oo
Ive never followed HB so i have absolutely no clue on these..
Div
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As said before somewhere else, if you are willing to supply RSS feed or something similar with your, better, predictions, then we can make this tool use your predictions instead of robotic ones.
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1) for someone not actively aware of the GvG scene, there are lots of private jokes and references you can't get unless you're in the know; 2) posted predictions on the thread have a lot of conflicts, even for those we know (well, that's the job you have to do to make it a "prediction", after a while you pick a few people you trust and weight their opinion higher);
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