GW2 items

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

I think its a reasonable sugest that for GW2 to have any longevity then Anet will need a better source of income than just initial sales of the game.

So if you could buy items for GW2 at the Online Store, what would you buy and how much would you be willing to pay?

For myself I think if they only had items like summoning stones and weapons I would likely not buy any.

However if they had armor that you could customize, I mean really customize with a paint program or even model manipulation, then I would easily purchase something like that. Depending on what level of customization was permitted I could see myself spending $5-$15 for such upgrades.

Scythe O F Glory

Scythe O F Glory

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

New Jersey

League of Elite [LoE]

D/

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........
no.

fusa

fusa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

I would buy new content (dungeons, missions etc) but not items. If they did sell items in their store, I wouldn't even buy GW2.

If they are hurting for money now (who isn't) then its from no new expansions being released. Originally their plan, if I remember correctly, was to release a new expansion every 6 months, to get people to continue paying to play their game. But for the past year they haven't had a major source of revenue from already existing customers.

I doubt custom crafting to the extent you stated would be feasible since every player would need your new model and artwork. If its done for only yourself, then their is always textmod.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

NCSoft is not EA.

(yet.)

caballo_oscuro

caballo_oscuro

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

Aura

Ok, so you're suggesting that people be able to have customised artwork? YAy! take the designers work and turn it into something which doesn't fit into the lore of the game...

If they allowed you to apply dye from within the game in a way that makes armours already available in-game custom paint-jobs, perhaps to some extent this would work, but i don't see it as a means of making money.

People wouldn't pay cash for this type of game mechanic. It's as bad as adding high-powered items to the store. Terrible.

/unsigned

Owik Gall

Owik Gall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guardians of the Light

W/Mo

This sounds something I'd see in games like WoW. Gimmicky, and over rated. Why do you care more about Anet's finances than your own? Do you want to promote features that will cause many players to waste their budget money? Do you?...

By the way, /unsigned.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Owik Gall View Post
This sounds something I'd see in games like WoW. Gimmicky, and over rated. Why do you care more about Anet's finances than your own? Do you want to promote features that will cause many players to waste their budget money? Do you?...

By the way, /unsigned.
The difference is that WoW's gimmicky features which you have to pay for, like Name changes or server transfers, have an actual use.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale View Post
So if you could buy items for GW2 at the Online Store, what would you buy and how much would you be willing to pay?
Only "items" I would like to see (for other people's uses) would be character slots, name changes, and appearance changes. However, the name and appearance changes are more things that belong in-game and a money sink in-game.

IMO, the online store is fine how it is. Only "items" (meaning weapons/armors/cons) that deserve to be put up there are the special weapons (like the GotY weapons, EN preview weekend weapons, etc) which are not that good but are perfect for "basic" weapons of usage for heroes and new characters and the like.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

If you could buy GW2 items from an online store I may not buy the game at all!
What a terribly retarded idea, I'd much rather play a subsription based game then, one thats fair for everyone.

They should make money by releasing big high quality content packages regularily. That's the best business model imaginable.

Miss Persephone

Miss Persephone

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

I think the OP has a valid point, ANet had to abandon the campaign model in GW1 so its reasonable to expect that they won't rely soly for revenue on new chapters/expansions for GW2.

Having said that, I think you do need to be careful not to end up having a huge in-game store that offers the coolest weapons and armors because you lose the incentive to play the game if you can just buy everything for real world cash.

Useful game additions, like more storage would be nice. I'll be happy to pay for more character slots as we do now. Some new Guild Hall designs (purely for aesthetics and not for GvG use) would be sweet. If they go ahead and remove the lvl 20 cap then I think there is a case for paying for name changes, like in WoW. All out of inspiration now.

Lord Armotag

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2007

Push The Button[BOOM]

E/Me

books based on the lore anyone?

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

LOL at all the people going "a.net would never sell weapon skins for money."

They already have.

It's called the BMP.

Cale Roughstar

Cale Roughstar

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

Canada

Guy In Real Life [GIRL]

W/E

No.

However, if they had things like more character slots and more storage (at cheaper prices than now) I would think about it.

Veripare

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada, Ontario

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cale Roughstar View Post
No.

However, if they had things like more character slots and more storage (at cheaper prices than now) I would think about it.
Cheaper prices than now? A character slot is only 9.99$

Yang Whirlwind

Yang Whirlwind

~ Retired ~

Join Date: Nov 2005

Copenhagen, Denmark (GMT +1)

E/

I would buy the game and any following expansions they published,- just like I did for GWI.
Anything else: no thanks!

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

It's safe to say they will not be following the model of GW and releasing new chapters/expansions as the sole means of money.

Since we know they are not planing, at this point, in having a monthly fee then the only other source of money would be to sell game items/features in the online store.

So what would be a reasonable item/feature for them to sell?

So far I have heard :
Storage,
Character Slots,
Guild Halls,
Name changes

Would a mini-pet be worth real money to anyone?
What other game features/items/ect could they sell without disrupting the games playablity?

vandevere

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Great State of Denial

W/Mo

I would pay for extra character slots and extra storage. I'm not too sure about anything else though...

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth View Post
If you could buy GW2 items from an online store I may not buy the game at all! .
Ditto.
If theres one thing I really hate its those games where you can buy your way to the top. (no im not counting gw goldsites, i mean legally)

aTT!kus

aTT!kus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

U.S.

[FluX]

W/

any special items or skins should ONLY be available in game for in game money. char slots, name changes, or collectors edition things i could see paying $5-$10 for though in the store

Scythe O F Glory

Scythe O F Glory

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

New Jersey

League of Elite [LoE]

D/

Even if you could buy items in the store, they would have no value as a vanity item. It doesn't show skill or experience (or time spent farming) to have an item that can be bought. All it shows is that you have RL money to waste. And then there's the other 10% of GW that buys things for their looks. Those would be the only people to buy the items, and that's not nearly enough to make a profit.
So, /unsigned.

Apollo Smile

Apollo Smile

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

[LORE]

E/Mo

Absolutely not. I would be pissed if Guild Wars was like those "FREE TO PLAY" Korean cash shop games.

the savage nornbear

the savage nornbear

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Raging Cadavers [rage]

R/

Worst. Plan. Ever.

psykick5

psykick5

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Salt Lake City, Utah

W/Mo

if i have to physically BUY something really good instead of have a small chance to get it in the game for free, i would just get it ingame, i am not going to pay for virtual crap. thats it. let EA do that crap, if ANet starts to do this, i won't play guild wars.

/unsigned

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Wait... buy items for the game before I know at least more than 10% of the game content itself?

Sorry, no thanks.

Lady Syve

Lady Syve

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

PWNZILLA team

X Legion Of Doom X [LOD]

I wouldn't mind a cash shop as long as the items sold there were not something that could give a player an advantage ingame. Unique weapon/armor skin unlocks, emotes, BMP type missions, name changes, appearance changes, character slots... stuff like that.

I would not like it if the cash shop offered things like TEH UBER SWORD OF PWNZOR that could kill any boss in one hit. A player should be able to obtain any statistic for an item (whether it is armor AL, weapon damage, etc.) through game play only, and nothing in a cash shop should have better statistics than something found through playing the game.

Rak Orgon of Beowulf

Rak Orgon of Beowulf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

just chillin

Omg Gwen Is Legal [EotN]

arenanet has already announced that they wanna do books about the 250 years between 1 and 2.

so theres some. and like they have also said, expansions and mini-expansions are likely buisness model for GW2.

edit:
/notsigned.
bad ideas that level of customization gives us the warrior wyvern/ascalon/obby mixes i loathe so incredibly bad.

the savage nornbear

the savage nornbear

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Raging Cadavers [rage]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Syve View Post
I wouldn't mind a cash shop as long as the items sold there were not something that could give a player an advantage ingame. Unique weapon/armor skin unlocks, emotes, BMP type missions, name changes, appearance changes, character slots... stuff like that.

Bold is good. The last thing we need is more noobs with emotes and spiky armor.

viper11025

viper11025

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

02/18/05 (Pm me with the place, its a riddle)

A/

If I could possibly buy a starter kit of greens with varible atts, based upon /bonus, and they would NOT be sellable, and would only come with buying a digital copy of gw2, then OK.
But no, not in the shop as a seperate product.

Antares Ascending

Antares Ascending

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

E/

I'd gladly support the game and buy the handy items. Char slots,storage, expansion packs with basic weapon sets (nothing special) name changes..meh and anything that added content. This would help keep the game profitable with free online time. The free aspect is to often taken for granted

If any items on sale gave a real advantage I wouldn't buy them or play the game.

Ant

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

The only things I'd ever want to see ANet sell in an in-game store would be junk that would have no effect on gameplay: the equivalent of minipets, weapon skins, or special armors.

Everything else would be an extremely bad idea. In fact, anything at all is already a very bad idea.

And, of course, I wouldn't buy any of it.

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scythe O F Glory View Post
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........
no.
2nded and agreed this is one of the things that ruined GW is this buying of stuff instead of earning it within the game. Those PVP paks should have never been offered. So, if you want it EARN it no buying anything other than the game world.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314 View Post
NCSoft is not EA.

(yet.)
I can see it now.
New store item: Filled book collection $5.99.
note this item is obtainable through normal gameplay

Anyway, I would never buy any items from the store. GW:EN preorder doesn't count because that came off the full game price

(WTB new campaign )

afya

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

buyable items = rich guys own the game = imbalance = absolutely no!

Banane-O-Man

Banane-O-Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314 View Post
NCSoft is not EA.

(yet.)
Lol best reply.

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

Ok, so how many of the people that are against items in the online store are willing to plunk down hard cash every month to play the game?

Would you play GW2 if it had a monthly fee?

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms View Post
LOL at all the people going "a.net would never sell weapon skins for money."

They already have.

It's called the BMP.
We didn't know what we would get when we ordered that, initially. Tons of people, myself included, bought it for the lore, and the awesome missions.

You have a point though, they have sold weapon skins for money: the GotY upgrade pack.

Anyway, a big no thanks to the OP. I'll pay for content, or for character slots and the like, but I'm never going to pay for just a cool weapon; that's why I have the BMP, but not the GotY upgrade. If they ever sell weapons that are actually better than max in the ingame store, I will even start trumpeting the death of GW.

And hell no, I wouldn't pay a monthly fee. That's their entire business model: pay for the game, play the game, put it down for a while if you want, or buy the expansions/upgrades if you want.

afya

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale View Post
Ok, so how many of the people that are against items in the online store are willing to plunk down hard cash every month to play the game?

Would you play GW2 if it had a monthly fee?
one of my initial motive of playing GW is the play-once-no-more system. i'll still consider paying every month if its well balanced and fun

Kyp Jade

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

USA

Lack of Talent [Luck]

P/

Bad thread is bad

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Id buy life vs. my gw1 accounts

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crom The Pale View Post

However if they had armor that you could customize, I mean really customize with a paint program or even model manipulation
OMG my eyes would bleed! Imagine all the idiots who would make some disgusting flashy, multicolor, deformed armors

As for paying for in-game armor skins, weapon skins, skills.. I am 100% against that. Please don't make GW a 3D version of maplestory.