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Horace Slughorn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2008

Experientia Docet [OHX], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA], We Gat Dis [HRUU]

W/

06 Dec 2008 at 02:04 - 1

Hey ya'll,

It's about 9pm (est) here and I just got the "new build" message. Checked wiki and gw.com, didnt say anything. Anyone know what this may be?

*prays for new tonic*

Chronos the Defiler

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

W/

06 Dec 2008 at 02:06 - 2

they don't have the update notes up that fast...be patient and next time, don't make a new thread about it.

+1

afya

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

06 Dec 2008 at 02:10 - 3

some1 is going to post it here, just wait

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

N/

06 Dec 2008 at 02:12 - 4

...................+1 yeah otherwise my bet is on a minor pvp skill update ~5 skills and new tonic maybe points for MAT and ummm nerf to a few stupid skills

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

06 Dec 2008 at 02:19 - 5

swing nerfbat swing
[Visions of Regret]

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

06 Dec 2008 at 02:54 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horace Slughorn

*prays for new tonic*

Tonic comes out the same time the monthly update + rewards points come. Which is 2 weeks after the mATS. 2nd week of each month.

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

06 Dec 2008 at 03:10 - 7

They do their main build releases on thursday so it was probably a bug or exploit fix.

Masseur

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Southern California

R/Mo

06 Dec 2008 at 03:26 - 8

Still no notes from one of the last updates they had.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

06 Dec 2008 at 03:45 - 9

Gotta love the 3 latest stealth updates. Makes me think there are serious issues being worked out that they don't want the general public to know about.

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

06 Dec 2008 at 03:47 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puebert

swing nerfbat swing
[Visions of Regret]

lmao, no kidding

Shadowmoon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/A

N/

06 Dec 2008 at 03:54 - 11

Heard form Alliance chat, another cons stealth nerf
Grails of Might no longer give +1 to skills.

Edit: tested, not true, like i said, i heard from alliance chat, reminds me that i should keep it off.

Horace Slughorn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2008

Experientia Docet [OHX], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA], We Gat Dis [HRUU]

W/

06 Dec 2008 at 03:59 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowmoon

Heard form Alliance chat, another cons stealth nerf
Grails of Might no longer give +1 to skills.

Rofl, i just did a UWsc run and grails were as normal.

Troll attempt quashed.

Thanks for the real posts above

Jensy

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2007

Phoenix, Arizona

Blinkie Ponie Armie [bpa]

N/Mo

06 Dec 2008 at 04:49 - 13

Haven't noticed a difference in VoR, what's the real story here? o_o

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

06 Dec 2008 at 05:00 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by pansy malfoy

Haven't noticed a difference in VoR, what's the real story here? o_o

No one knows as of yet.

We have not made enough sacrifical offerings to the dev-err gods(!) for them to grace us with update notes. Quick! Trash your minipets!

Haxor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2008

Legion of the Feng Huang [ASH]

06 Dec 2008 at 05:07 - 15

Preparation for wintersday, perhaps?

Lyynyyrd

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2008

Aussie Trolling Crew - Spah!

06 Dec 2008 at 05:30 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puebert

swing nerfbat swing
[Visions of Regret]

Elite skill update is planned for this upcoming Thursday, according to Izzy @ the balance forums.

Mystica

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Germany

[金金金金]

Me/W

06 Dec 2008 at 05:47 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyynyyrd

Elite skill update is planned for this upcoming Thursday, according to Izzy @ the balance forums.

I'd laugh if it hits SF too

Crunk N Monkey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Bellevue Nebraska

The Mystic Tokers

R/D

06 Dec 2008 at 06:36 - 18

actually every monthly tonic has come out on the first week on each month, or within 10 days. and its always on a thursday, with the exception of one month it was wednesday. with the time so close to the midnight and it almost being the 6th, maybe its a timed thing and wont start dropping until the 6th PST.

Masseur

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Southern California

R/Mo

06 Dec 2008 at 06:57 - 19

tonics always come out on the 2nd thursday of the month, at least the last many months it has.

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

06 Dec 2008 at 07:04 - 20

Instead of asking Anet to nerf VoR, why not ask your monk to remove the hex?

Crunk N Monkey

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Bellevue Nebraska

The Mystic Tokers

R/D

06 Dec 2008 at 07:06 - 21

november it came out on the first thursday, october was the second.

"In the first scheduled update of every month, one new flavor of the ever-popular transmogrifier tonics will be added to the Zaishen Chest, replacing the tonic from the month before."

that is straight from their site, THE FIRST SCHEDULED UPDATE OF THE MONTH.

http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...ishencalendar/

xDusT II

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Melbourne

06 Dec 2008 at 07:22 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Instead of asking Anet to nerf VoR, why not ask your monk to remove the hex?

Using your logic, hexes can no longer be overpowered because they can be removed. Also removing VoR becomes a lot harder when the monk has VoR and Backfire on them, Empathy on your frontline and your veils accidentally remove Wastrel's instead of the hex you wanted. Fast casting also makes it moderately harder to interrupt.

Cobalt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

06 Dec 2008 at 12:33 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystica

I'd laugh if it hits SF too

Funny you mentioned that, because I heard in game chat just yesterday that both SF and Cry Of Pain are next on Issy's chopping block. This would be SOP for Anet because their track record has shown that anything that makes the game easier or more fun than they think it should be gets taken away in one form or another.

fowlero

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

England, UK

We Are The One And Only [rR]

06 Dec 2008 at 13:33 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Instead of asking Anet to nerf VoR, why not ask your monk to remove the hex?

Because their team has other hexes too, and you have typically 1 or 2 veils and possibly a spotless.

Better to keep your warriors/ranger clean so you can actually kill/interupt stuff and just spirit bond it until you run out of energy or manage to get it shutdown.

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

06 Dec 2008 at 19:40 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Instead of asking Anet to nerf VoR, why not ask your monk to remove the hex?

Because [Purge Signet] removes all their energy and is the the only way to get through WW, and Backfire safely?

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

06 Dec 2008 at 19:43 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

Instead of asking Anet to nerf VoR, why not ask your monk to remove the hex?

Sorry, forgot the monk wasn't hexed with [wail of doom][backfire][diversion], and that my own personal hex stack is [visions of regret][empathy][faintheartedness][parasitic bond]

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

06 Dec 2008 at 20:05 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Sorry, forgot the monk wasn't hexed with [wail of doom][backfire][diversion], and that my own personal hex stack is [visions of regret][empathy][faintheartedness][defile defenses]

I do believe the common hex used over Parasitic is Defile Defenses. I think you're talking about TA anyway, really can't be bothered reading.

Mystica

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Germany

[金金金金]

Me/W

06 Dec 2008 at 20:25 - 28

Actually I haven't seen the "Don't get hacked" announcement on the login screen til today. Might have missed it though. When did it replace the "Account security bla" message?

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

06 Dec 2008 at 22:32 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystica

Actually I haven't seen the "Don't get hacked" announcement on the login screen til today. Might have missed it though. When did it replace the "Account security bla" message?

It has been there for quite a few days.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

07 Dec 2008 at 01:54 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunk N Monkey

november it came out on the first thursday, october was the second.

"In the first scheduled update of every month, one new flavor of the ever-popular transmogrifier tonics will be added to the Zaishen Chest, replacing the tonic from the month before."

that is straight from their site, THE FIRST SCHEDULED UPDATE OF THE MONTH.

http://www.guildwars.com/competitive...ishencalendar/

Bolded the important part. Yes this was the "FIRST" update of the month, but it wasn't the first "SCHEDULED" update. It was a small update that occured and was probablly thrown together at the last second to fix some minor bug or optimize the server code.

Seriously, people need to stop finding new ways to whine about EVERYTHING.

Owik Gall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guardians of the Light

W/Mo

07 Dec 2008 at 09:51 - 31

It's just a small, insignificant update. Don't worry about it.

Anon-e-mouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

@ Home

League Of Friends [LOF]

R/Mo

07 Dec 2008 at 13:07 - 32

35 files isn't that small. Bug fixes are usually 1 or 2 files... not 35.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

07 Dec 2008 at 16:59 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anon-e-mouse

35 files isn't that small. Bug fixes are usually 1 or 2 files... not 35.

And the vast knowledge of programming that allows you to back up that statement comes from...

Darmikau

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Pun Goes [Here]

P/W

07 Dec 2008 at 17:06 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anon-e-mouse

35 files isn't that small. Bug fixes are usually 1 or 2 files... not 35.

This, 35 is actually a fairly large update by Guild Wars standards. Once you hit 100 files you're already at game changing updates like introductions of new skills. IIRC, most monthly updates aren't even more than 10-20 files.

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

07 Dec 2008 at 17:10 - 35

You know that anet tends to preload files way before big updates to ease load on server, right?

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

07 Dec 2008 at 17:33 - 36

This would mean they preload files all the time. That would explain my constant 300ms ping, while games like City of Heroes/Warhammer have much lower ping. Not to mention all the FPS games, but they don't use bandwidth as much as MMOs.

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

07 Dec 2008 at 22:32 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

And the vast knowledge of programming that allows you to back up that statement comes from...

Well, everyone knows that the unit of change in a 3.5Go Gw.dat "file" is a set of "files" evenly distributed such that you can rate an update according to the number of "files". I mean, you know, the programming behing GW is fairly simple, collate together a bunch of .so, .data and .jpg that everyone can understand immediatly from how the game is played and you're done. (note to self: don't push the sarcasm too far; you should fight the Guru effect that's making you so cynical)

I imagine (I say "imagine" because this could never happen) a dev looking at comments like these and thinking "how could they say things like that?".

zwei2stein: I actually noticed pre-loading only a few months back (I always -image my game before loading it), is this something they've been doing long before?

Earth

Always Outnumbered

Join Date: Jul 2006

07 Dec 2008 at 23:05 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

And the vast knowledge of programming that allows you to back up that statement comes from...

Looking how many files are added when GW is updated, probably.

What Now

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

08 Dec 2008 at 04:49 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by xDusT II

Using your logic, hexes can no longer be overpowered because they can be removed. Also removing VoR becomes a lot harder when the monk has VoR and Backfire on them, Empathy on your frontline and your veils accidentally remove Wastrel's instead of the hex you wanted. Fast casting also makes it moderately harder to interrupt.

Instead of asking for a nerf to VoR why not do something more logical.

There are hundreds of hexes some very painful in this game.

There are a few handfuls of hex removal, all with mildly high recharge in comparison.

Soooo, instead of nerfing one of those hexes why not buff hex removal?

Naw...that would be too logical...then you cant complain about WoD in the next topic...crap.

Anon-e-mouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

@ Home

League Of Friends [LOF]

R/Mo

08 Dec 2008 at 10:43 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

And the vast knowledge of programming that allows you to back up that statement comes from...

The fact that I always do -image when ever there's an update, and with 2 PC's running GW, I know when there's an update, so I specifically looked to see how many files were being updated.

If I did -image last update, and when this update roll around and it tells me there's 35 files to download, I fairly sure that I can state with fairly good authority that there was around 35 files in the update (and certainly not the normal 1 or 2 files for a bug fix update).

Please stop assuming everyone who plays GW is a retard.