Is it too expensive? Do you think it will go down and by how much? Is it ugly? Discuss the BDS.
Also for clarification purposes BDS=Bone dragon staff.....although I will permit you to talk about blue dragon swords...
BDS overpriced?
l Rainy l
Zinger314
BDS. You'll never find a more wretched item of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.
Abedeus
And BDS is...?
aapo
I voted BDS off, but the admins didn't like the idea.
Pleikki
Meh Ugly skin, nec is prob only that looks good with it, i can understand why ppl pay so much for ugly skins like bds and Frog scepter etc
kostolomac
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Originally Posted by Abedeus
And BDS is...?
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Winterclaw
I think he's talking about the blue dragon sword.
I farmed one, very cheap that way.
I farmed one, very cheap that way.
BJuno
Bone Dragon Staff any1???
byteme!
BDS = Bone Dragon Staff
Overpriced? It's a player driven economy. Tell that to the horde of rich idiots who are "willingly" paying obscene amounts for something that can be farmed as easily as Cathedral of Flames. We all know how pitiful the value of drops is in that run.
Overpriced? It's a player driven economy. Tell that to the horde of rich idiots who are "willingly" paying obscene amounts for something that can be farmed as easily as Cathedral of Flames. We all know how pitiful the value of drops is in that run.
Fates
wtf is a blue dragon sword?
BJuno
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Originally Posted by Fates Monk
wtf is a blue dragon sword?
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anywat an ugly staff with some sort of a rotten heart with a dragon head, and apparently it has an animation with droplets of blood
Its a Design-A-Weapon Contest Winner item.
Squiffy
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Originally Posted by Fates Monk
wtf is a blue dragon sword?
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Jensy
Won't be, as more people start farming SoO. They'll be like the booby prize of CoF (the damn green hammer) 
E-Peen of the moment, I suppose.
E-Peen of the moment, I suppose.
Shadowmoon
Players get items for their rarity instead of there beauty, perfect example is the fugly crystaline sword.
BDS are a VERY rare drop from a 3 lvl dungeons that even expereinced runners take 30-40 minutes to run under optimal settings. To add to that, it can come in 21 different attributes it can drop in, then they range from req 9-13. So this just makes specific popular attribute q9's (currently most popular is prot) very rare and worth alot of money. I'd say the current price may be high, BUT all high end items are getting highers.
BDS are a VERY rare drop from a 3 lvl dungeons that even expereinced runners take 30-40 minutes to run under optimal settings. To add to that, it can come in 21 different attributes it can drop in, then they range from req 9-13. So this just makes specific popular attribute q9's (currently most popular is prot) very rare and worth alot of money. I'd say the current price may be high, BUT all high end items are getting highers.
Siirius Black
Bone Dragon Staff
And I think he refers to BDS = IDS
And I think he refers to BDS = IDS
makosi
An item is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. That's the objective answer.
The subjective answer is that it's fairly ugly although impressively sized. It's even more ugly in the context of a monk, one of Dwayna's holy, life-giving servants who doesn't suit a giant, boney, evil-looking staff of death.
I'd like on for my necro but I won't pay current prices.
The subjective answer is that it's fairly ugly although impressively sized. It's even more ugly in the context of a monk, one of Dwayna's holy, life-giving servants who doesn't suit a giant, boney, evil-looking staff of death.
I'd like on for my necro but I won't pay current prices.
Martin Alvito
People want rare stuff. In particular, people want rare stuff that other people find desirable/envious. The Bone Dragon Staff happens to be popular at the moment.
Ectos have been ridiculously easy to farm for quite some time now.
A Bone Dragon Staff of a specific attribute is much rarer than items with similar drop frequencies from similarly difficult dungeons (eg: Emerald Blade, Kathandrax).
Upshot: many people have lots of ectos with which to compete to buy these scarce, desirable items. It follows that the item has a high price.
Ectos have been ridiculously easy to farm for quite some time now.
A Bone Dragon Staff of a specific attribute is much rarer than items with similar drop frequencies from similarly difficult dungeons (eg: Emerald Blade, Kathandrax).
Upshot: many people have lots of ectos with which to compete to buy these scarce, desirable items. It follows that the item has a high price.
Quaker
I had one of those - a req11 or 12 - I didn't know they were particularly rare. I think I merched it. 
A11Eur0
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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito
People want rare stuff. In particular, people want rare stuff that other people find desirable/envious. The Bone Dragon Staff happens to be popular at the moment.
Ectos have been ridiculously easy to farm for quite some time now. A Bone Dragon Staff of a specific attribute is much rarer than items with similar drop frequencies from similarly difficult dungeons (eg: Emerald Blade, Kathandrax). Upshot: many people have lots of ectos with which to compete to buy these scarce, desirable items. It follows that the item has a high price. |
It's ugly, it's poorly done(read: plain), and doesn't go with anything but a Male necromancer.
DJCoastal
bone dragon staff looks like a giant sea horse. lol... imo... its ugly... wasn't very impressed with how it didn't exactly look like the drawing of it... :<
romeus petrus
If you think it is too expensive dont buy it. It is not exactly that hard to get thru SoO, hell u can solo it if u like in HM with a 600 smite.
If you want a very specific attribute/req on a very specific skin, you should be ready to pay the price.
If you want a very specific attribute/req on a very specific skin, you should be ready to pay the price.
Shadowmoon
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Originally Posted by A11Eur0
I'ma call BOOLSHEEEEET on that one. Look in Ventari and see how many bone dragon staves are for sale, and compare that to how many emerald blades there are in there. There are fools with 5-6 BDS's and people still think they're worth 3-figure ecto prices. Ridiculous.
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nkuvu
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Originally Posted by DJCoastal
bone dragon staff looks like a giant sea horse. lol... imo... its ugly... wasn't very impressed with how it didn't exactly look like the drawing of it... :<
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I know the common response is "well they can only put so much detail in the game" or some such, but really. Compare the image to the in-game item. Then compare the Draconic Scythe to its art contest entry.
If someone paid me, I might take a Bone Dragon Staff off their hands. But no way would I ever pay for one.
romeus petrus
How it looks is a matter of opinion. You may choose to like it or hate it that's up to u. The drop rate on the other hand is not, it is a rare drop, and a desirable skin (to many), the reason ppl are selling for that much is coz there are others paying that much.
And as stated earlier, go farm for a r9 fire or healing, and let us know how long it took u to get one; then come back and say it's overpriced.
And as stated earlier, go farm for a r9 fire or healing, and let us know how long it took u to get one; then come back and say it's overpriced.
Ultima pyromancer
Theres 4 on the first page of the high end auction section...
But who cares? its ugly so only people who think e peen = skill will buy them
So keep the price up, i mean whos complaining that something actually has value in this game other than mini pets. And as SoO is easily done, its not particuarly hard to get one, its just gonna take a lot of time.
Let the elitists buy them at stupidly high prices i say
ooh and go go 10k each person for 600/smite run.. makes easy money for them too so i think its win win
But who cares? its ugly so only people who think e peen = skill will buy them
So keep the price up, i mean whos complaining that something actually has value in this game other than mini pets. And as SoO is easily done, its not particuarly hard to get one, its just gonna take a lot of time.
Let the elitists buy them at stupidly high prices i say
ooh and go go 10k each person for 600/smite run.. makes easy money for them too so i think its win win
CronkTheImpaler
1. its only gly to those that think it is.
2. e-peen really isnt even a factor. either you like it or ya dont.
3. if you think getting one is easy you are SEVERELY mistaken. ive farmed shards of bore for ages and have seen 1 drop req12 water if im not mistaken.
4 people want what they want. no one has the market cornered on the desire scale.
Cronk
2. e-peen really isnt even a factor. either you like it or ya dont.
3. if you think getting one is easy you are SEVERELY mistaken. ive farmed shards of bore for ages and have seen 1 drop req12 water if im not mistaken.
4 people want what they want. no one has the market cornered on the desire scale.
Cronk
glacialphoenix
There might be what seems like a lot of BDSes out there, but then again, not all of them are 'popular' ones. I mean, the price paid for a q9 prot is definitely going to be way more than a q11 spawning power, yes?
Also, IMO, it only looks good with necros.
(Mind, I'd like to have a q9 prot so I could sell it and get money for my titles. I definitely wouldn't pay for one though.)
Also, IMO, it only looks good with necros.
(Mind, I'd like to have a q9 prot so I could sell it and get money for my titles. I definitely wouldn't pay for one though.)
Esprit
I think it is an ugly skin myself. And to me it looks like a dead horse.
But I did not complain about the price when I sold it one that dropped for me.
But I did not complain about the price when I sold it one that dropped for me.
Rak Orgon of Beowulf
i think the idea of a Bone Dragon Staff was a cool one, and the drawing design was ok, but A-net scrapped it down even more and made it a really boring skin.
nothing in the game is worth 300e for me anyway. people who buy e-bay gold/ecto might think otherwise lol.
people pay for e-peen, bleh. the best lookin weap from that design a weapon is the dryad bow(come on its GoRedEngine-ing beautiful)
to cronk: e-peen is a HUGE factor. i was observing the MAT and in some guild in the top 10 or 15(cant remember which) the monks had matching elite armors matching dread masks, matching chaos gloves and matching BDS's dont tell me epeen isnt a factor
nothing in the game is worth 300e for me anyway. people who buy e-bay gold/ecto might think otherwise lol.
people pay for e-peen, bleh. the best lookin weap from that design a weapon is the dryad bow(come on its GoRedEngine-ing beautiful)
to cronk: e-peen is a HUGE factor. i was observing the MAT and in some guild in the top 10 or 15(cant remember which) the monks had matching elite armors matching dread masks, matching chaos gloves and matching BDS's dont tell me epeen isnt a factor
jaximus
guys guys guys, youre all very close on why its expensive, but this one is solely to blame on the designers. yes ugly, we agree. hard to get, not so much. but lets take a step back and do something totally not guild wars, lets look at functionality instead of looks? WAIT, WTF!! yup, thats why they are expensive.
GW:EN delivered some pretty sweet looking staves, and the updates in urgoz and the deep gave us inscribable versions of already neat existing ones, BUT, the problem here is req.
as a monk(my primary so i know best), you need certain equipment. 40/20 20% is the rage for monks, prot spec. the reason they are expensive is because you can get them in any attribute! so adept heads and that inscription that does the same can be used.
im not the only one that gets tired of torm/destroyer/MBP weps. look around and see what monks are using, very little diversity there. this staff, although horrid ugly, gives a tiny bit of variety.
GW:EN delivered some pretty sweet looking staves, and the updates in urgoz and the deep gave us inscribable versions of already neat existing ones, BUT, the problem here is req.
as a monk(my primary so i know best), you need certain equipment. 40/20 20% is the rage for monks, prot spec. the reason they are expensive is because you can get them in any attribute! so adept heads and that inscription that does the same can be used.
im not the only one that gets tired of torm/destroyer/MBP weps. look around and see what monks are using, very little diversity there. this staff, although horrid ugly, gives a tiny bit of variety.
You just got tomahawked
Yes. It is overpriced.
Ultima pyromancer
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Originally Posted by CronkTheImpaler
1. its only gly to those that think it is.
2. e-peen really isnt even a factor. either you like it or ya dont. 3. if you think getting one is easy you are SEVERELY mistaken. ive farmed shards of bore for ages and have seen 1 drop req12 water if im not mistaken. 4 people want what they want. no one has the market cornered on the desire scale. Cronk |
and the majority of people only buy this because its rare. Not because it looks nice. Its the same with most rare skins in the game.. So if people are buying them out of rarity, then i would say e peen is influenced.
Granted some people may like the skin, but imo it looks like a regular drop. If i saw one of these drop without knowing how much it was worth, then i would take 200g from the merchant and so would a lot of people tbh
Zidane Ortef
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Originally Posted by A11Eur0
I'ma call BOOLSHEEEEET on that one. Look in Ventari and see how many bone dragon staves are for sale, and compare that to how many emerald blades there are in there. There are fools with 5-6 BDS's and people still think they're worth 3-figure ecto prices. Ridiculous.
It's ugly, it's poorly done(read: plain), and doesn't go with anything but a Male necromancer. |
As he said they come in all caster req. and q9-13 so you figure there is, Monk, Mesmer, Ele, Rit, Nec. thats 21 different attributes and 5 different req. where as with drop as the emerald blade its just 1 attribute and 5 reqs. Yes your going to see Bone dragon staffs but your not going to see alot in a decent req. right now the only ones worth a good chunk of money are q9,prot,death, fire and dom. all the other req go down hill from there.
and not all BDS are triple ectos just some today i sold a Q10 channel and a q12 smite together for 102e so just to throw some prices out there. The chances of getting a good attribute and a good req together are very slim.
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Originally Posted by Rak Orgon of Beowulf
nothing in the game is worth 300e for me anyway. people who buy e-bay gold/ecto might think otherwise lol.
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I made 102e+ today just selling those two staffs and ive got a good chunk of plat from selling the 3 frog scepter from the week before having money doesnt make you a ebayer it makes you a player its not hard to make money in this game its ridiculously easy infact play the game and make money, run dungeons and make money, get lucky and make money any way you wanna look at it but saying people that have money are ebayers is inaccurate.
~Zidane~
Siirius Black
I'm sorry for been such a noob, but what is e peen?
Zidane Ortef
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I'm sorry for been such a noob, but what is e peen?
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e-peen = penis over the internet the common thing with alot of guys is they think they are manly because they have a big penis IRL so things that are big flashy and worth pixel money give people e-peens
Windf0rce
Matter of personal preference. If someone likes an item skin, it is fair to pay high amounts for it instead of farming it over 1,000,000 runs.
Might be overpriced, but sometimes it is worth overpaying to have something at hand faster, specially when you don't even have a lot to do with money.
Saying "the skin is ugly and a waste of money" is only a very personal view. Same matter as FoW armor; some people consider it ugly and a waste, but some really like it (I know I swear by Male Monk and Female Mesmer FoWs).
BDS dyed white looked pretty impressive on a female Ele last time I saw it; pretty large and very bright white.
Might be overpriced, but sometimes it is worth overpaying to have something at hand faster, specially when you don't even have a lot to do with money.
Saying "the skin is ugly and a waste of money" is only a very personal view. Same matter as FoW armor; some people consider it ugly and a waste, but some really like it (I know I swear by Male Monk and Female Mesmer FoWs).
BDS dyed white looked pretty impressive on a female Ele last time I saw it; pretty large and very bright white.
Loot Junkie
I will have to disagree with Sedona's disagreement with Martin Alvito(nevermind that martin is a fellow officer of mine lol) on the rarity of the BDS compared to the emerald blade. My guild was farming the emmy with a fair amount of success awhile back. I was never into dungeon farming so I was reluctant to go, but the one time I did go I got one too, even though my drops were badly nerfed from repetitive feather farming.
Stolen Souls
They are overpriced, but that's ok...I am making money off of the fugly things. Like all the other expensive stuff (voltaic, frog scepter, crystalline, etc), they have one of the ugliest skins in the game. It's interesting how the most expensive stuff is also the most hideous. xD
^i am well aware that's opinionated
But yes...they are overpriced. And so are SoO runs.
^i am well aware that's opinionated
But yes...they are overpriced. And so are SoO runs.
Dante the Warlord
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Originally Posted by A11Eur0
I'ma call BOOLSHEEEEET on that one. Look in Ventari and see how many bone dragon staves are for sale, and compare that to how many emerald blades there are in there. There are fools with 5-6 BDS's and people still think they're worth 3-figure ecto prices. Ridiculous.
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Lycan Nibbler
What kind of stupid thread is this?? Sellers + buyers = market price. That may be overpriced to some and a bargain to others but there certainly isnt any discussion to be had here.
If someone is asking more than you are willing to pay, then dont buy it. It does not add anything to your chars capabilities.
If someone is asking more than you are willing to pay, then dont buy it. It does not add anything to your chars capabilities.