Switching from Sabway to Discordway

Quote: We were on topic until Igor came in and posted that build of his. You probably notice by now that he likes to promote his pvx build as much as he can. That was when I had to say stop it, that build sucks.

Sorry, but if you see me arguing with Igor about discordway, it would most probably be around his build that suggests all character classes to play as a X/A caster. That's just wrong because not all character classes make good casters since every class is different.

Another problem is, many people still hold pvx builds as the standard build so since his build sucks for some classes, it is actually hurting the reputation of discord builds. Some people are starting to think that your character must hold that build template in order for discord to work.

To be fair to Igor, I think his build is not that bad for a caster (my own caster discordway version is similar only with minor changes) but generalizing it as an effective discordway for ALL the other character classes, including warriors, is ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Daesu Then why did you infer that Scythe Warriors use AP from your original statement? If you dont know how to word your posts properly there are many writing courses that you can take. I didn't infer, you assumed. I wasn't condoning warriors use staves, i was stating that it didnt matter where you stand as a warrior on the field. Just because You dont carry a shield doesnt mean you cant be on the front line. You inferred that if a warrior carries a staff then he better not be on the front line. And dont worry about my writing style, im sure that everyone else would be able to read it properly. I graduated college and i make great spare money writing advertisements for websites not to mention that i am constantly complimented on my writing style. The difference is sentence structure becomes less prominent when you are on a forum and you learn to just summarize. Daesu Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2008 23 Feb 2009 at 09:11 - 90 Quote: Originally Posted by daze Im sorry i assumed you were on topic. so i was explaining why a warrior probably is better off with sabway. Which is a statement that neither agrees with you or Igor. Since he is saying that warriors should take a staff.

LOL if i took anything "personally" that you posted, then i would have to rethink my life priorities. I dont know, I was starting to think you two maybe related or something. Well,...even if you were absolutely clear and I knew for sure that you were referring to a staff warrior, it still doesn't address the point that I mentioned before that warriors make the worst casters. For his build to work well, the warrior probably needs a staff, and without a shield, he would probably not be holding the frontlines and therefore his high armor is wasted. You are only using the warrior at the abilities that he is weakest in, of all the character classes, as a caster. No matter how I see it, I dont see how this build is better than sabway for at least some of these non-caster classes. I bring up the warrior class because it is the most obvious example. I bet if I take sabway as it is, change all the heroes elites to discord with some points to death magic, and use an effective melee warrior build to go along, it would still be stronger than his W/A caster. Especially if his AP gets removed by a hex removal, his W/A caster would be wanding for quite a while waiting for his 2 pips energy regen to catch up. Lourens Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 23 Feb 2009 at 09:28 - 91 [Malaise][Parasitic Bond][Suffering][Meekness] and [enfeebling blood] are nice to put on your necros as requirement for [discord] Quote: Originally Posted by daze Exactly, for what you are using it for, [spiteful spirit][jagged bones][weapon of remedy] > gimped [discord]. Just leave the [discord] for people who use it to its fullest potential. I mean jeezus if you are going to give all your heroes the same elite skill, you should at least try to take full advantage of it instead of using it for "support damage" as you stated. Exactly Synergizing Heroes For The Win , Discord is Mediocre daze Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2008 In my own mind The Dragon Exchange E/ 23 Feb 2009 at 09:32 - 92 Well in order to avoid people who take wiki as gospel from getting the wrong impression Igor Probably should have qualified his submission with something like this: "If you play as a warrior profession and you want to run an AP caller build and you want to use discord, then you may want to bring a staff to help you have the energy needed to spam AP and YMLAD. However, discordway in its entirety is better suited for the casting persuasion." i wonder if that quote would have prevented an eternal argument spanning multiple threads and closing multiple threads. Daenara Bad Romance Join Date: May 2006 Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Grand Matron Mo/ 23 Feb 2009 at 10:14 - 93 Quote: Originally Posted by daze "If you play as a warrior profession and you want to run an AP caller build and you want to use discord, then you may want to bring a staff to help you have the energy needed to spam AP and YMLAD. However, discordway in its entirety is better suited for the casting persuasion." i wonder if that quote would have prevented an eternal argument spanning multiple threads and closing multiple threads. I agree. I can't see this thread going anywhere further. I'm sure the OP has had his questions more than sufficiently answered.