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10 Jan 2009 at 08:59 - 41

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Originally Posted by Fates Monk

Really? Please show me that quote.

You are quite correct. This is all we have to go on:

From the official guildwiki:

Game Release and Beta Testing

Beta testing was originally set for late 2008, but has since been postponed to a date closer to the game's release. The game is thought to be released in late 2009 or early 2010; however, this is yet to be officially announced. If you would like more information on the Guild Wars 2 beta testing and/or the game's release, please see the Guild Wars 2 FAQ page.

From the official FAQ on the GW website:

When is Guild Wars 2 going to be released?

When it's finished. Seriously though, we haven't announced a specific release date yet, but when we do you can get those details and more right here on the official website.

People, don't assume. There is so little known at this time, there really is nothing to be mentioned by IGN.

Thalador Doomspeaker

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13 Jan 2009 at 18:58 - 42

Anet will have to make an awesome GW2, or else they will fall.
Lucasarts' SW: ToR, Stargate Worlds, D3... we are living in the age of MMOs, so a good marketing could help the current situation a little. These are my personal thoughts, so it's possible that I'm wrong, but this silence about the game is rather annoying for us players.

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13 Jan 2009 at 19:06 - 43

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Originally Posted by Thalador Doomspeaker

Anet will have to make an awesome GW2, or else they will fall.
Lucasarts' SW: ToR, Stargate Worlds, D3... we are living in the age of MMOs, so a good marketing could help the current situation a little. These are my personal thoughts, so it's possible that I'm wrong, but this silence about the game is rather annoying for us players.

so what you are saying is have anet spill the beans to satisfy yourself and others? so they spill the beans, then what fun is it. i think its good to keep it all a secret for now. so unless you are in the sales marketing field, be patient.

imo if i was anet i would keep everything a secret till the very last moment then market it. why all the hate against anet? tryin being in anets shoes. i think anet is hilarious and has a great sense of humor

Keep it a secret anet

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13 Jan 2009 at 19:18 - 44

I dont think any informed player was expecting GW2 in 2009. As far as I am concerned GW is vaporware till I see a screen.

R.Shayne

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13 Jan 2009 at 21:12 - 45

I could care less about the hype most games put out - a good example is Age of Conan. The only problem is that the customers ANET has to impress do care about the hype and do want to see concept art, screen shots, game play videos. With this economy I would not expect much from impulse buyers.

If it is released in 2009, 2010, or 2011 it will still have to go up against stiff competition from announced games that have already started their hype engines. ANET lack of funds may mean they will have to advertise hard right before the game is released.

The statement of Beta close to release has me worried. Sounds like a beta I was on were we told them parts were broken and nothing was done about it.

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15 Jan 2009 at 04:48 - 46

I think due to all of the high profile shut-downs of many released MMOs (AoC, Hellgate, Tabula Rasa, etc.), ANet is going to play publicity about GW2 very safe. By safe, I mean they will not release any new information about GW2 in until 9 or possibly 6 months away from launch. Let me explain.

Let's look at another AAA MMO coming out soon: Star Trek Online. When was it announced? In its current sure-fire form, August 2008. When will it be released? Definitely by the end of year. This isn't another half-assed MMO either: it carries the weight of one of the most popular and direhard fanbases in scifi, and the features that I have seen are very sophisticated, like automatic planet and species creation for people to discover computer-generated planets with life in the galaxy along with all of the canon star systems and species in place.
Now the Trekkies are much more....vehement fans than GW players are. The continual release of information by Cryptic has been pretty much satisfactory so far, but many fans are upset by some of the decisions they are making about the game. Still more believe that Cryptic won't stick close of enough to canon for the game to be a true Star Trek game. The STO board is often on fire, so much that I don't even look at it anymore.
Even in the light of all this info they are releasing (unlike GW2), the game is still launching ~1 year after its announcement. The time between announcement and launch is shrinking, and I simply think ANet is taking it to the next step. While there is no real proof that they are working on GW2 besides the fact they say they are, wouldn't you want to think they are working on something due to the lack of real work on GW1?....

Just my 2cents.

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ANET lack of funds may mean they will have to advertise hard right before the game is released.

I believe I'm correct in saying that they had over $50 million invested in GW2. NCSoft isn't going to be cheap with one of its best selling producers.

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15 Jan 2009 at 05:02 - 47

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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

GW2 wassn't mention because of various reasons:

1) Diablo 3 and Blizzard's "unknown MMO" take the cake. Anyone denying this clearly has blind faith in Guild Wars and ANET.
2) Aion is a fairly recent buzz, correct me if I'm wrong, compared to GW2. It looks pretty and flashy.

and this next one is a doozy guys...

3) Anet has released jack SQUAT about GW2 other than some backstory and title logo. Aion has screens and photos, D3 has a huge teaser video, and a "unknown blizzard MMO" is enough teaser as it is. Hell, if the staff of Anet haddn't confirmed GW2 of being real, this could all possibly be some elaborate thrown together history and lore, with a photoshopped title logo!

Anet is getting JUST what they ordered. If they don't market it, no one will care. period. At this rate, a majority of it's fan base has lost hope in GW2, or has at least lost most interest at it, and it certainly hassn't generated buzzworthy news.

Trust me, by the time GW2 comes out, a lot of people who have played GW won't care, and it'll be so completely overshadowed by other games, that it won't generate any new fans.

Please, tell me I'm wrong.

You are totally WRrright. i couldnt say it.

The following scenario is what will lead to the fall of ANet and the fizzle of GW2.

"Hello, i am the average MMO addict. I have been playing Guild wars since its release 4 years ago and honestly i feel that i have done just about everything worth doing. And the game seems to be dying more and more day by day.

I feel like playing a more modern MMO, never liked WoW but it looks like there are lots of nice ones on the horizon. This Star Wars one is getting a lot of positive responses. I may try that one, and who knows, if its fun i might end up addicted to it for the next 4 years. Sorry ANet you missed the boat.

I did hear something about a sequel to guild wars called Guild Wars 2 but the carrot that they dangled is beginning to rot and i am growing impatient. I wonder if any other MMOs dont charge a monthly subscription. Because when it comes down to it, that is the only reason i bought GW 4 years ago."

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15 Jan 2009 at 05:56 - 48

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Originally Posted by MarlinBackna

While there is no real proof that they are working on GW2 besides the fact they say they are, wouldn't you want to think they are working on something due to the lack of real work on GW1?

They really are working on something, or else a company wouldn't pay that much money on 100+ staff (which is where the bulk of the money is, and we're talking 120 to 170 people here). Let them work while we either play GW1, or don't. Judging them at the light of other companies PR strategy won't help one bit, they're not in competition with Activision Blizzard due to their business model.

I was re-reading the PCgamer GW2 special recently and enjoyed it, while I guess it makes some people impatient. The problem does not lie with Anet (yes they made a mistake of releasing this too early) but with people being impatient on this board. Given it's a tiny part of a tiny population, it doesn't matter really. Anet will be judged on what they'll release, not what they say they'll release or even show.

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15 Jan 2009 at 06:46 - 49

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because they will have to choose - GW 2 or D3 - and I know what will be my choice

Okay, now this is a mindset I don't understand. If there's two good games coming out, why do you have to choose just one of them? Why not just get both? Because I know that's what I'll be doing - playing D3 and GW2, whenever they come out.

Also, where on earth did this "Diablo is an MMO" thing come from? It's not. It never has been. Just because you can play a game online doesn't automatically make it an MMO.

Abedeus

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15 Jan 2009 at 07:03 - 50

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Originally Posted by Verene

Okay, now this is a mindset I don't understand. If there's two good games coming out, why do you have to choose just one of them? Why not just get both? Because I know that's what I'll be doing - playing D3 and GW2, whenever they come out.

Sorry, I'm not sitting on a pile of money and my allowance is under $200. A lot under $200. More like $15. Some day you'll understand, that you can't have everything you want.

Besides, how can you say if GW2 is a good game if you haven't seen or heard anything about it except for "plot", which usually means nothing in MMOs? You don't know ANYTHING about the game. If you do, you are lying, because nobody ever has heard about it anything.

Oh, and while there is a proof that Diablo 3 exists and it's doing really well, there is no way to tell where is A.Net's game. Or if it IS, at all.

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Also, where on earth did this "Diablo is an MMO" thing come from? It's not. It never has been. Just because you can play a game online doesn't automatically make it an MMO.

Who said Diablo is an MMO?

Funny you mention that "just because you can play a game online doesn't make it an MMO". Then how would you classify Guild Wars? You can't meet other parties outside of server-based towns, and in PvE, 8-12 players in a dungeon/quest is hardly Massive Multiplayer (Diablo 2 had 8, while Neverwinter Nights a year later could support even 32-64 players, up to 98, but connection had to be flawless).

Snow Bunny

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15 Jan 2009 at 07:22 - 51

GW2 is vaporware as far as I'm concerned. For more references: Duke Nukem Forever

Bryant Again

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15 Jan 2009 at 10:15 - 52

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

I was re-reading the PCgamer GW2 special recently and enjoyed it, while I guess it makes some people impatient. The problem does not lie with Anet (yes they made a mistake of releasing this too early) but with people being impatient on this board. Given it's a tiny part of a tiny population, it doesn't matter really. Anet will be judged on what they'll release, not what they say they'll release or even show.

Lose-lose on ANet's part.

No GW2 announcement: "Hay, where's all my new GW1 content!?"

With GW2 announcement: "Hay, where's my GW2!?"

360??

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15 Jan 2009 at 10:20 - 53

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO off with the vaporware comments. Srs.

Killed u man

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15 Jan 2009 at 10:32 - 54

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Originally Posted by trankle

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But you missed my point. It's too little too late.

WHAT will be left in the MMO market, after all these other promosing titles have come out? Nothing...

If nobody knows about GW2, nobody's going to wait for it. They barely got what, a few 10,000 people left actively playing this game? Even then, how much of those are still going to stay till GW2 come?

It's not a question of Anet not marketing, or GW2 not being a good game, it's a question of competition. In a world where Blizzard rules the MMO-scene, and you got your hands on a prosporous title (GW), you want to let people know a sequel is comming, BEFORE all the other games/expansion release that is.

How many people will still buy GW2 after they have already set their minds on: The next wow expansion, the next Blizzard MMO (D3), ...
Not many. Especially not with the current crisis going on, it souns cliche, but I don't think people will throw away money just for the sake of it. Hey, GW2 came out, let's spend ANOTHER 50$ on it, even tough we already bought 2 other MMO's...

Won't happen...

Fril Estelin

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15 Jan 2009 at 13:07 - 55

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Lose-lose on ANet's part.

No GW2 announcement: "Hay, where's all my new GW1 content!?"

With GW2 announcement: "Hay, where's my GW2!?"

You know fully well that given the nature of the community (partly due to the GW business model) they'd end up like this in pretty much 75% of the situations. We've seen it recently with MPB, hats, etc. But we've seen it for 3 years+, the community has a lot of diversity and richness (which is also poorness when you take the bad interaction into account, see for example the PvE-PvP divide). Anet gives, people want.

The thing to remember is that they'll loose people, those that are too impatient or angry, those that will only play one of the big coming games due to the lack of time/money, those that want to make them pay, those that don't trust them anymore. But I believe that not only they'll have the majority of the fanbase buying GW2 when it's out whatever happens between now and then (this is much more people than the active GW player, because a lot of people adapted to the nature of the game, playing it and then leaving it for a while, since they don't have to pay to come back), but there'll be plenty more people coming, attracted by the no-monthly-fee (are D3 and SC2 going to be like D2 and SC as business models?), awesome graphics (and art) running on all PC config, and friends. I'm convinced (don't trust me on this) that they're going to rock the MMO boat, although GW2 will not be what GW1 was when it was released.

No one outside of Anet-NCsoft can predict what will happen, surely not (ex-)fans that only see the tiny tip of the iceberg. I don't care if they haven't showed us anything since May 2007 (19 months), I don't care if Activision Blizzard has D3 and SC2 in the pipe (Wired magazine puts SC2 in its vaporware list, I think it's as unfair as treating GW2 of vaporware), not even if STO, SWKOTOR-MMO, or whatever-cool-MMO comes out in the meantime and takes 95% of the market shares (and media attention). I'll be here for GW2, when it arrives, because I know that it'll be great.

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Originally Posted by 360°

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO off with the vaporware comments. Srs.

Don't feed the trolls (yes I'm also fed up with this non-sense, but saying so adds more fuel to the fire)

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15 Jan 2009 at 14:59 - 56

Guild Wars will probably not be here until LATE 2012.

Neither will Blizzard's new MMO. The're not going to start a new game when they have over 10mil player's all aging for new content.

Blizzard will probably wait till Aion and other new MMO's are released to see what they offer. Once the WoW fanbase starts to drop(which isn't going to happen anytime soon). They will start on a new MMO.

Lykan

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15 Jan 2009 at 15:30 - 57

Proabably because like us they don't know sweet FA about it.

Shemsu Anpw

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15 Jan 2009 at 16:56 - 58

Talk about throwing money away cause your on an 'allowence.' What do you think your doing on a $15 a month subscription? Basically buying a new game every 3-4 months during a subscription. I object to that bussiness model on the concept I have already bought the game, and refuse to keep buying the game. I'll play GW 2 when ever it comes out either way, I hope sooner rather then later though.

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15 Jan 2009 at 18:31 - 59

I still think there a good amount of people who once they buy a game they like, they don't keep playing the game even if a better game might be out there because they already know they like what they got.
I played gw since factions reason and nothing else because i liked the game. Prior to that i played WoW until the patch 1.10 "raid or quit" patch that ended up being the last straw. Gw had already been out for a year, but i never played it because i was content with WoW, until its devs took of dump on my chest.
I think there are alot of people like me who didn't try all the new ARPGs and MMO-like game that come out over the years because they are content with gw. I would like to know progress is being made, because games can fizzle out no matter the publisher (starcraft:ghost anyone?) otherwise if a new game come out that interests me, i'll get that product and play the mess out of it for 2+years.
Their silence make me worry think major problem came out, and them saying nothing only comfirms that feeling.

Verene

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15 Jan 2009 at 18:44 - 60

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

Sorry, I'm not sitting on a pile of money and my allowance is under $200. A lot under $200. More like $15. Some day you'll understand, that you can't have everything you want.

Besides, how can you say if GW2 is a good game if you haven't seen or heard anything about it except for "plot", which usually means nothing in MMOs? You don't know ANYTHING about the game. If you do, you are lying, because nobody ever has heard about it anything.

Oh, and while there is a proof that Diablo 3 exists and it's doing really well, there is no way to tell where is A.Net's game. Or if it IS, at all.

Who said Diablo is an MMO?

Funny you mention that "just because you can play a game online doesn't make it an MMO". Then how would you classify Guild Wars? You can't meet other parties outside of server-based towns, and in PvE, 8-12 players in a dungeon/quest is hardly Massive Multiplayer (Diablo 2 had 8, while Neverwinter Nights a year later could support even 32-64 players, up to 98, but connection had to be flawless).

Kiddo, if you're still getting allowance, then I've understood "you can't have everything you want" longer than you've been alive, most likely. Man, I'd LOVE to have an allowance (never got one as a kid).

My point is, there doesn't necessarily need to be a choice between two games. That doesn't mean you have to get both at the same time. Especially as chances are both won't even be coming out at the same time. Most people aren't going to go "Hmmmm, this game should be coming out at this point, and this will come out at some point later. I can only get one!". They'll be like "Well, okay, I can get this one and then get that one later".

I didn't specifically say you referred to D3 as an MMO, but it has referred to one in this thread, yes.

And I wouldn't say that Guild Wars is a typical MMO, not in the least - which is a big part of what I like about it. However, the fact that it is an online-only RPG makes it one.

What I don't understand - why worry about games that aren't going to be out for years? And would you rather have a good game that has taken a long time to develop or something that's crap because they rushed it because of people complaining about how long it was taking?

Abedeus

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15 Jan 2009 at 20:35 - 61

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What I don't understand - why worry about games that aren't going to be out for years? And would you rather have a good game that has taken a long time to develop or something that's crap because they rushed it because of people complaining about how long it was taking?

Like releasing an add-on with reskinned armors and "new" content? OH WAIT, happened.

Also, you don't see a difference between not realising the game or a release date and releasing absolutely no info about the game whatsoever.

Fril Estelin

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15 Jan 2009 at 21:44 - 62

Regina just said a few hours ago:

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...as GW2 production continues to progress
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we have some developers who take time away from GW2 production...

So now, discuss! ...

trankle

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16 Jan 2009 at 00:29 - 63

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

But you missed my point. It's too little too late.

WHAT will be left in the MMO market, after all these other promosing titles have come out? Nothing...

If nobody knows about GW2, nobody's going to wait for it. They barely got what, a few 10,000 people left actively playing this game? Even then, how much of those are still going to stay till GW2 come?

It's not a question of Anet not marketing, or GW2 not being a good game, it's a question of competition. In a world where Blizzard rules the MMO-scene, and you got your hands on a prosporous title (GW), you want to let people know a sequel is comming, BEFORE all the other games/expansion release that is.

How many people will still buy GW2 after they have already set their minds on: The next wow expansion, the next Blizzard MMO (D3), ...
Not many. Especially not with the current crisis going on, it souns cliche, but I don't think people will throw away money just for the sake of it. Hey, GW2 came out, let's spend ANOTHER 50$ on it, even tough we already bought 2 other MMO's...

Won't happen...

No, I understood your point, I just disagree.

1. You're assuming that marketing a game has to be a mutli-year process. I'm telling you it doesn't. Anet can do all the marketing/hyping it needs to in the 4-6 months leading up to release. Because....

2. If GW2 is quality, it will sell. If it's not, that's a whole different story. But if he game is solid, and gets good reviews, and gets good word of mouth, it will sell. Just like D3 will sell if it's good. Don't get me wrong, there are going to be plenty of franchise buyers for D3, and for BlizzardX, but after that initial wave, if the games don't live up, they'll sink.

If you and your friends sit around and buy games because of their amazing two-year marketing campaigns, more power to you. A lot of the rest of us buy games based on reviews and demos.

GW2 needs to be quality to compete, no question. But if it is, that quality will sell the game in the long run. There's a big difference between opening night sales and sustained sales.

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16 Jan 2009 at 01:08 - 64

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

Regina just said a few hours ago:

So now, discuss! ...

Lack of screenshots is lack.

Codin The Great

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16 Jan 2009 at 01:12 - 65

i thought they wer releasing it in 09 but i found out it was 2010 and thats to long

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16 Jan 2009 at 21:40 - 66

Not suprising. Arenanet likes to fly under the radar at all times. I'm sure most fans will be super excited about GW2 but I'm not holding my breath for info anytime soon.

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16 Jan 2009 at 22:16 - 67

1 simple reason : GW sucks, why would GW2 be any better? NO ONE talks about Guild Wars, its all about the Warcraft and Warhammer. Plain and simple. I personally have come to despise Guild Wars.

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16 Jan 2009 at 22:26 - 68

Or it's maybe like this:

"Aim low. Aim so low no one will care if you succeed."

Ate of DK

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16 Jan 2009 at 23:15 - 69

With the past succes of the Diablo series we can assume what happens when Diablo3 gets released. Millions of people will play it. GW2 will have a hard time competing against it and I fear that ANet will lose if they don't have a very good product. Even with a good product they get a hard time...

Red Sonya

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17 Jan 2009 at 01:20 - 70

The infringement lawsuit will bring to an end the GW era. GW2 is likely not to see the light of day.

HawkofStorms

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17 Jan 2009 at 02:45 - 71

*chuckles at all the obvious trolls*

@ Risus, GW is still in the top 10 list for most played online games right now according to XFire. While a lot of people may talk about WoW (because its the 500 pound gorilla) and WAR (because it is trying to be the new 500 pound gorilla), GW1 was never designed or intended to be as successful as it is. It is a niche market. An MMO for people who don't like MMO mechanics (level grind, gear based gameplay).

@ Abedeus, nice Simpson quote. But the point still stands that the MAIN reason nothing has been released about GW2 yet is because NCSoft doesn't want GW2 to be in direct competition with Aion. Any GW2 hype would detract attention from another of NCsoft's products. It's just good business sense.

@ Red Sonya. Even if that spurious World's.com lawsuit goes to trial and NCSoft loses, they will likely just be able to get awarded damages. They will not be able to shut down servers or prevent future product development. While a settlement would hurt NCSoft financial if they lose, they still have enough financial backing to continue to put out a game. Especially considering how long such a large lawsuit could take, not to mention any appeal. GW2 might be released before the litigation even ends.

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17 Jan 2009 at 07:11 - 72

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@ Abedeus, nice Simpson quote. But the point still stands that the MAIN reason nothing has been released about GW2 yet is because NCSoft doesn't want GW2 to be in direct competition with Aion. Any GW2 hype would detract attention from another of NCsoft's products. It's just good business sense.

Business sense? I don't think Aion matters. I don't recall City of Heroes being cancelled/moved because of GW and vice versa. Because those are two different games.

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GW2 might be released before the litigation even ends.

You can't honestly believe that. If NCSoft loses, GW2 will be pushed so far in the future, it's graphic system, ideas and engine will be so old nobody will buy it. Because MMOs make more money than "buy and forget" games.

Sure, GW is 7th most played game. Reason? No fee. You can even use it as a chat program. But it's beaten by Battlefield 2, CSS and even Warcraft 3.

HawkofStorms

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17 Jan 2009 at 07:17 - 73

OMG... GW is less popular then some of the best selling computer games ever. 111panic111

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17 Jan 2009 at 07:37 - 74

At least pretend you are not trying to troll, please.

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17 Jan 2009 at 07:42 - 75

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

At least pretend you are not trying to troll, please.

Your sarcasm meter is broken.

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17 Jan 2009 at 09:40 - 76

IGN missed GW 2 cause GW 2 said that if they released any info they would Perma Sin there ass..

wetsparks

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17 Jan 2009 at 22:35 - 77

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

At least pretend you are not trying to troll, please.

I think you should look into the mirror and say that.

Seriously though, some of the posts on here are just stupid. Arena Net doesn't have hardly any income coming in, and NCSoft isn't a super wealthy company. They aren't going to have 100+ people working on a project collecting paychecks without getting something in return. That return will be GW2, and if it gets rushed because stupid trolls on the internet can't find anything better to do than bitch, it will go the way of Age of Conan, Hellgate London, or Tabula Rasa. And wasting money on hyping up a game before it is even closely ready to release is even stupider.

It won't matter what other games are coming out, because the other MMOs that have been mentioned require monthly fees and people have a hard time justifying paying one of those, let alone two. But since GW2 won't have one, they can get it and play for a few hours a month while downloading the newest bug fix or while weekly maintenance is going on, just like people are doing with GW1, and Arena Net would get the same amount of money as someone who plays 100 hours a month. And if you seriously think that GW2 and Diablo 3 will release anytime close to one another, especially with Blizzard's policy of delay, delay, delay, you need to get yourself some mental help.

Obrien Xp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2009

Canada

The First Dragon Slayers [FDS]

19 Jan 2009 at 01:46 - 78

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Originally Posted by fenix

That's probably because ANet said they're releasing it in 2010.

But the beta...
Sides, there is zip info on w/e the stuck-up uncaring snobs at Blizz are doing.
Stargate Worlds 4thewin!

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

19 Jan 2009 at 05:44 - 79

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Originally Posted by wetsparks

Seriously though, some of the posts on here are just stupid. Arena Net doesn't have hardly any income coming in, and NCSoft isn't a super wealthy company. They aren't going to have 100+ people working on a project collecting paychecks without getting something in return. That return will be GW2, and if it gets rushed because stupid trolls on the internet can't find anything better to do than bitch, it will go the way of Age of Conan, Hellgate London, or Tabula Rasa. And wasting money on hyping up a game before it is even closely ready to release is even stupider.

Atleast those games had hype long before release.

Eragon Zarroc

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Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

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W/P

19 Jan 2009 at 06:02 - 80

the untitled, no realease date, of a mystery blizzard game beats out GW2.....not even a special mention.....