I think the only titles that should have ever been added were the PvP, to show experience. The exploring, protector, guardian, skill capturing, abd survivor. LDoA because it's cool. I think anet took something they knew that a bunch of people would shit bricks over and milked it hard core. I forgot to add... the wisdom and treasure hunter are good to. Did anybody honestly buy the game so they could click a stack of sweets to get some text? No, they did not.
One could argue that if you don't like titles then ignore them and that is very true. But seriously I kind of like titles, but this game in the beginning has always been skill > time, I expect skill > money as well. If you agree with that statement right there then you should agree about my titles suggestion. It should take skill to get titles, not money. All this does is influence greed. Anybody who notices that anet made 1k armor the same stats as 100k or 1mil will believe that this game is truly skill > time.
I love the way they were thinking in the beginning, but they began to fall into the typical MMO category where you grind away at meaningless tasks to make you feel better.
Another note; 1 title showing you maxed more than 1 title is enoguh recognition. I believe there is no purpose beyond Kind of A Big Deal, unless the next title is A Big Deal and end it there.
Remove Titles
Tetrazon
Puebert
/not signed
Dumb suggestion.
Titles are here for good.
And they don't do a damn thing other than let you wtfpwn Margonites and show off your epeen.
Dumb suggestion.
Titles are here for good.
And they don't do a damn thing other than let you wtfpwn Margonites and show off your epeen.
The Lost Explorer
/notsign
soooo you want everything ppl put some effort in to get erased? thats not a smart idea, yeah titles aren't the best thing to happen to GW but what will ppl do if there wasn't any titles? not everyone likes PvP and its nearly impossible for someone new to get involed in it, titles should be left alone. so what if someone has a PvE or money sink title, are you to jealous of it that you want them erased? ANet will never get rid of titles its too late, waaaayyyyy to late
soooo you want everything ppl put some effort in to get erased? thats not a smart idea, yeah titles aren't the best thing to happen to GW but what will ppl do if there wasn't any titles? not everyone likes PvP and its nearly impossible for someone new to get involed in it, titles should be left alone. so what if someone has a PvE or money sink title, are you to jealous of it that you want them erased? ANet will never get rid of titles its too late, waaaayyyyy to late
guildwars hero22
titles are dumb. anyone can grind through them nothing hard. just shows how much of a life you have or dont have.
dasmitchies
Get a real cause.
Razorblade Monkey
/notsigned
One of the dumbest ideas I have seen in aaaaages... Thats basically saying "I personally don't like those cash titles, so EVERY OTHER PLAYER SHOULD MISS OUT!" Yeah, real, umm... clever... -.-
End of the day: You don't like them? Don't attempt them, simple. If anything, it sounds like jealousy, which you can deny if you wish, but there isn't much else that would spawn this kind of request. Don't expect the many, many players who happen to like title hunting (regardless of method of aquisition) to agree with this silly suggestion.
As mentioned above, PvP is not for everyone, and especially for newcomers, they would get ANNIHILATED in PvP against players that have been doing it for years, so PvE gameplay/titles is more suited to the less hardcore just want some fun instead of getting whipped in PvP so bad it could make newcomers uninstall. Anet have stated many times their goal is to cater for players of ALL skill levels, not just YOUR skill level. So if players suck at PvP, let them click their sweets etc if they wish and leave them alone! Your skill > time thing is your own personal preference, and for some people they would like that also, but Survivor isn't as easy for some as it is for others, same as finishing a campaign, so they may want to work on a cash title instead, but you'd rather deny them of that for what? Want them to come and ask for the titles YOU like to be removed? No? Then stick to your game and leave others that aren't bothering you alone. The cash titles they earn can do absolutely nothing to you other than, as I said before, make you jealous. So deny if you will, but it just seems like someone is upset his epeen isn't as big as players with GWAMM etc...
So flame me if you want, but just think about your suggestion... Like REALLY think... YOU want EVERY player to miss out because YOU don't like something... That's fair... -.-
One of the dumbest ideas I have seen in aaaaages... Thats basically saying "I personally don't like those cash titles, so EVERY OTHER PLAYER SHOULD MISS OUT!" Yeah, real, umm... clever... -.-
End of the day: You don't like them? Don't attempt them, simple. If anything, it sounds like jealousy, which you can deny if you wish, but there isn't much else that would spawn this kind of request. Don't expect the many, many players who happen to like title hunting (regardless of method of aquisition) to agree with this silly suggestion.
As mentioned above, PvP is not for everyone, and especially for newcomers, they would get ANNIHILATED in PvP against players that have been doing it for years, so PvE gameplay/titles is more suited to the less hardcore just want some fun instead of getting whipped in PvP so bad it could make newcomers uninstall. Anet have stated many times their goal is to cater for players of ALL skill levels, not just YOUR skill level. So if players suck at PvP, let them click their sweets etc if they wish and leave them alone! Your skill > time thing is your own personal preference, and for some people they would like that also, but Survivor isn't as easy for some as it is for others, same as finishing a campaign, so they may want to work on a cash title instead, but you'd rather deny them of that for what? Want them to come and ask for the titles YOU like to be removed? No? Then stick to your game and leave others that aren't bothering you alone. The cash titles they earn can do absolutely nothing to you other than, as I said before, make you jealous. So deny if you will, but it just seems like someone is upset his epeen isn't as big as players with GWAMM etc...
So flame me if you want, but just think about your suggestion... Like REALLY think... YOU want EVERY player to miss out because YOU don't like something... That's fair... -.-
Hailey Anne
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One of the dumbest ideas I have seen in aaaaages...
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OT I would sign but its the only I have left to do in game other wise I would just stop playing.
Konig Des Todes
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Did anybody honestly buy the game so they could click a stack of sweets to get some text? No, they did not.
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If any titles get removed, it should be grind titles. This includes:
Champion
Gamer
Gladiator
Hero
Lucky
Unlucky
Zaishen
Treasure Hunter
Wisdom
Drunkard
Legendary Defender of Ascalon
Allegiance (Kurzick/Luxon)
Commander
Lightbringer
Sunspear
Asura
Deldrimor
Ebon Vanguard
Norn
Note: I do not count Sweet Tooth and Party Animal as grind because they are more of money sinks. Drunkard however, requires 10k minutes, instead of just instantly clicking anything. I count PvP titles are grind because, lets face it, any one form of PvP is doing the same thing over and over, same areas, same goals (different arenas have different goals somewhat), and the title have high numbers (takes three years to max Hero afterall).
Tetrazon
I did same "Remove Titles" very vaguely, but I don't think half the people listened to me. Not all of them are bad. The money sink titles are. Why would I be jealous that someone wasted 10,000 minutes clicking something? This is a suggestion forum and that means obviously a lot of things were here to stay. It doesn't mean they can't be modified.
Worst argument I ever heard. How long have you been playing Guild Wars? There's been lots of things people put effort into and lost. A prime example would be the wisdom and treasure hunter situation. I'm sure there's plenty of people who got grandmaster on one character and then did it on another character.
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soooo you want everything ppl put some effort in to get erased? thats not a smart idea, yeah titles aren't the best thing to happen to GW but what will ppl do if there wasn't any titles? not everyone likes PvP and its nearly impossible for someone new to get involed in it, titles should be left alone. so what if someone has a PvE or money sink title, are you to jealous of it that you want them erased? ANet will never get rid of titles its too late, waaaayyyyy to late |
crazybanshee
What, you don't like em? Don't get em. Plenty of people already have em. Stop trolling the boards with stupid threads. Didn't you just have a thread about losing 4 accounts or something?
Neo Atomisk
/notsigned
Tbh, nearly every title is just a luxury thing. The 8 alliegence/rep titles have the only impact on play, and with no ursan, they don't really do too much. Titles are really the center of gw. Simply put, removing titles would ruin gw.
Tbh, nearly every title is just a luxury thing. The 8 alliegence/rep titles have the only impact on play, and with no ursan, they don't really do too much. Titles are really the center of gw. Simply put, removing titles would ruin gw.
Shayne Hawke
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If any titles get removed, it should be grind titles. This includes:
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@ OP: Your idea ultimately fails, because one of the biggest points in the HoM is a transfer of GW titles to GW2 rewards. Nevertheless, I do agree with you.
Money titles (Sweet Tooth, Drunkard, Party Animal) can all be shot. Free titles (Legendary Skill Hunter, Legendary Guardian, etc.) should all drop from counting from the maxed titles track. LDoA and LS get fixed, or dropped. Zaishen gets reverted to what it should have been - a title showing max balth faction spent - or dropped.
PvP titles are only super bad because LOLBALANCE. Sunspear, LB, and the Factions/EotN titles are a joke because of PvE skills, but that's still functionality. If those skills get removed, which would never be the case, then you could drop all of those. Protector, Cartographer, Skill Hunter, etc. make sense. Treasure Hunter, Wisdom, and Lucky have functionality, and it'd be kind of ridiculous to have Lucky without Unlucky.
Ultimately though, titles seem to have been the one major push that warped the game out of a Skill>Time mindset, and nothing yet has come by, as far as I know, to bring GW back in that direction.
tl;dr - Titles are stupid, but they're not going to go, no matter how much and how many people complain.
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Rakim B
hello
skill>time
titles =/= skill
taa daa!
skill>time
titles =/= skill
taa daa!
Neo Atomisk
And there wasn't too much to do back then, iirc
I'd estimate 90% of the gw community plays for titles.
I'd estimate 90% of the gw community plays for titles.
Kook~NBK~
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They threw in titles such as party, drunk, and sweet tooth as filler for gaining the GWAMM title. Without them, maxing out the KoaBD title track would be extremely time consuming, putting it out of reach for even moderately avid GW players.
And the skill > time arguement may have had validity back in the day. But as GW has aged, more and more people have gotten as skilled as they're ever going to get, have played through each campaign with several different characters, and have done the elite areas to death. So all that's left for the long-time player is grinding out titles & helping out the occasional newbie.
They threw in titles such as party, drunk, and sweet tooth as filler for gaining the GWAMM title. Without them, maxing out the KoaBD title track would be extremely time consuming, putting it out of reach for even moderately avid GW players.
And the skill > time arguement may have had validity back in the day. But as GW has aged, more and more people have gotten as skilled as they're ever going to get, have played through each campaign with several different characters, and have done the elite areas to death. So all that's left for the long-time player is grinding out titles & helping out the occasional newbie.
Konig Des Todes
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Neo Atomisk
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They threw in titles such as party, drunk, and sweet tooth as filler for gaining the GWAMM title. Without them, maxing out the KoaBD title track would be extremely time consuming, putting it out of reach for even moderately avid GW players. And the skill > time arguement may have had validity back in the day. But as GW has aged, more and more people have gotten as skilled as they're ever going to get, have played through each campaign with several different characters, and have done the elite areas to death. So all that's left for the long-time player is grinding out titles & helping out the occasional newbie. |
realtalk916
i dont think a single person has agreed with u lol
its an mmo, it has to have some sort of achievements
its an mmo, it has to have some sort of achievements
subarucar
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If any titles get removed, it should be grind titles. This includes:
Champion Gamer Gladiator Hero Zaishen Allegiance (Kurzick/Luxon) Commander ........ |
warrior running
Titles are what make me want to keep playing without them this game would be nada
shoyon456
I agree, this is what concerns me about gw2. The game is dead in stone though, and that is the only place anet can rectify this.
scrawlerthebrave
If you dont like titles, then just dont use them.
Alex Dimitri
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@OP
O man that`s just ridiculous, the only thing that keeps people playing game is those titles ! I mean i did all missions and finish game on numerous chars what is exactly there for me to do in GW ???
Play PvP ? No thank you i don`t like PvP that much, besides that is grind too have u seen requirements for titles there.....amazing, plus everytime some new "uber' build shows up everyone plays it.It`s like the clone wars just without SW.
Titiles are only thing that keeps this game goin at this moment i just hope GW2 comes in resonable amount of time !!!
@OP
O man that`s just ridiculous, the only thing that keeps people playing game is those titles ! I mean i did all missions and finish game on numerous chars what is exactly there for me to do in GW ???
Play PvP ? No thank you i don`t like PvP that much, besides that is grind too have u seen requirements for titles there.....amazing, plus everytime some new "uber' build shows up everyone plays it.It`s like the clone wars just without SW.
Titiles are only thing that keeps this game goin at this moment i just hope GW2 comes in resonable amount of time !!!
Nessar
/not signed
I didnt grind hours of my life away to get titles just to see them removed -.- And the only reason I play now is to max kurz. How many players would quit if titles were removed? Prolly a ton. Game is already dead. Dont need to make it dead-er >.>
I didnt grind hours of my life away to get titles just to see them removed -.- And the only reason I play now is to max kurz. How many players would quit if titles were removed? Prolly a ton. Game is already dead. Dont need to make it dead-er >.>
Xsiriss
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I never said to remove those titles, just that if titles were to be removed (which they won't) then grind titles would be removed. And Gamer=grind (but probably the funnest grind title).
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MithranArkanere
Once added, while people use it, you can only change it, never remove it.
Once it's useless or something better is found to replace it, you can remove it.
If you remove titles there would be no substitute for them.
Once it's useless or something better is found to replace it, you can remove it.
If you remove titles there would be no substitute for them.
Reverend Dr
Removing titles would be the single greatest update since the introduction of balth faction. The resulting outcry would be the most wonderful symphony ever written.
nightschroud
if u remove titels , you could just as well remove every effort most people made to get them
because some people like to show that they achieved something like guardian , vanquisher etc
but for other titels :
sweet tooth, drunkard , party animal , etc = titels that were made to be moneysinks to lower the amount of cash a certain person holds in the economy , bye trying to shift that money to more common players who farmed the items , all this to balance out the economy
only titel i dislike = zaishen titel , seriously they made a mistake with this titel , free zkeys every month if u just buy some extra accounts . screwening up the economy with this and the items u get from chest
u do know that those titels were available before GWAMM was even introdused to the game .....
besides u can get 30 titels easily without the use of these money titels
because some people like to show that they achieved something like guardian , vanquisher etc
but for other titels :
sweet tooth, drunkard , party animal , etc = titels that were made to be moneysinks to lower the amount of cash a certain person holds in the economy , bye trying to shift that money to more common players who farmed the items , all this to balance out the economy
only titel i dislike = zaishen titel , seriously they made a mistake with this titel , free zkeys every month if u just buy some extra accounts . screwening up the economy with this and the items u get from chest
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besides u can get 30 titels easily without the use of these money titels
Zahr Dalsk
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If you remove titles there would be no substitute for them.
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Real content would make a good substitute. Considering titles are a substitute for content in the first place, a lazy dev's way of keeping their game alive.
Mangione
/notsigned
Why there is this crusade against titles? (I see two threads with the same "title" now in Sardelac, "Remove Titles").
I don't like titles very much, but I don't ask for removal, I say leave them for players who enjoy this side of the game.
Why there is this crusade against titles? (I see two threads with the same "title" now in Sardelac, "Remove Titles").
I don't like titles very much, but I don't ask for removal, I say leave them for players who enjoy this side of the game.
Sephiroth Istari
Keep them. They preserve the game.
Skyy High
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Real content would make a good substitute. Considering titles are a substitute for content in the first place, a lazy dev's way of keeping their game alive.
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Seriously, why do people suggest s*** like this that is NOT HAPPENING, EVER, NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU WHINE ABOUT IT?
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How many times are people going to bring up that failure of a complaint, "skill > time"? Do you know what that was originally referring to? The fact that if you put the game down for a month or two and come back to it, you wouldn't be 40 levels below all of your friends and completely gimped in PvP (since, you know, that was kinda the point of the game back then). At no point, ever, did the devs say that that philosophy applied to pretty in-game shiny rewards, like FoW armor or rare weapons. Saying that the sweet tooth title goes against the "skill > time" philosophy is such a horrendously wrong take on the original game design it's become beyond absurd, and has long fallen into the realm of tiresome.
Kamakazi112
...take out titles...no gw2 simple as that
crazybanshee
soooooo /notsigned.
You don't like titles? Don't get em. Jealous because other people have em and you don't? Then go get em. QQing about how mean titles are is not likely to get you a lot of sympathy.
You don't like titles? Don't get em. Jealous because other people have em and you don't? Then go get em. QQing about how mean titles are is not likely to get you a lot of sympathy.
draxynnic
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How many times are people going to bring up that failure of a complaint, "skill > time"? Do you know what that was originally referring to? The fact that if you put the game down for a month or two and come back to it, you wouldn't be 40 levels below all of your friends and completely gimped in PvP (since, you know, that was kinda the point of the game back then). At no point, ever, did the devs say that that philosophy applied to pretty in-game shiny rewards, like FoW armor or rare weapons. Saying that the sweet tooth title goes against the "skill > time" philosophy is such a horrendously wrong take on the original game design it's become beyond absurd, and has long fallen into the realm of tiresome. |
Still, I agree with your main point - things that have no purpose other than to be shiny (elite armours, rare skins, most titles apart from allegiance titles) don't break the skill>time principle, since the only benefit they provide (over common stuff in the case of equippable items) is shiny factor.
MirkoTeran
"I don't have titles so noone else should have them."
/no
/no
JASON626
skill > money?
there aren't many titles left that you can't buy... you can buy fame and champ points..
there aren't many titles left that you can't buy... you can buy fame and champ points..
MMSDome
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PvP titles are the only ones that really mean anything and even they are demeaned.
PvP titles are the only ones that really mean anything and even they are demeaned.
Proff
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it's cool.
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Expherious
I just turn mine off lol.