Is Direct Song dead? Request for help

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

I wonder whether anyone can help me by trying to access the Direct Song server to download some of the extra GW music?

I have just returned to GW after three months without a PC. On my previous machine I had bought all the Direct Song packs, and I still have downloads and licences left, for my new machine.

After installing GW this weekend, I went to their site to get all the music that I have bought and paid for. I logged in and ran the downloader; Vista asked me whether to Allow the program, which I did, but then I got the message:

"The DirectSong server could not be reached.
Please check your internet connection and try again.
Error Message - 11010 ( ip req timed out ) - This error means that you either have lost your internet connection or that you are behind a firewall."

I switched off windows Firewall and disabled my AntiVirus protection (Kaspersky). I tried again and got the same message. So, I rebooted my router and used a DMZ, i.e. placing myself outside the firewall and still I got the same message.

Previously I have managed fine to download DS music onto previous machines, using the same router, and Vista, and with Windows Firewall and Kaspersky running anyway. Last time I successfully accessed DS was about three months ago, when I was temporarily using another machine for GW.

As a last resort I went to use a completely different PC, in a completely different place with a different connection - logged in, tried to run the downloader and got the same message.

I raised a ticket with their support, which they are supposed to answer within 72 hours. They haven't - not a squeak.

So, in summary

Can't Access Server with many combos of PC/Firewall/Connection/Location
+ No Answer from Tech Support
= Server is down and no-one cares/Direct Song is dead

I sincerely hope this is not the case.

Has anybody managed to download music from them recently?

This is a real pain - I can copy the files from another PC but it's the DRM that's the killer. It has to come from Direct Song with its license certificate.

Wondering whether anyone knows about this or might be kind enough to go to their site, log in, and attempt to download from them.

Please?

-rightuos-

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

I still have a couple downloads left on the Sorrows Furnace pack but its a no go I got the same thing you did.

ele pl

ele pl

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2007

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I have all soundtracks from Direct Song, all gw and rest of the games. Even collector's editions (for GW), so my answer is no, DirectSong is not dead. If you cant receive answer from Tech support, try contacting Jeremy itself.

Madeentje

Madeentje

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Belgium

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I have same problem. Just tried it out (also have bought all soundtracks). Sucks kinda...I used to have the music on another computer but don't have those anymore. Not that I really care about the music, you can easily download it by other ways.

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Thanks to the 2-3 of you for trying. It seems that no-one can contact the download server. This is reassuring in a way; I don't have to start pulling apart my PC and router as the error message seems to imply.

IF ANYONE MANAGES TO DOWLOAD SUCCESSFULLY FROM DIRECT SONG PLEASE CAN THEY UPDATE THIS THREAD otherwise it should be regarded as an ongoing issue.

As suggested above I have emailed Jeremy Soule via his website in case that helps or provides info, although I am sure he's a busy guy.

In the meantime, can anyone suggest an alternative way to get the music and get it into the game, working? The problems seem to be

1) Digital Rights Management - a license must be obtained for each track, from Direct Song
2) Getting the game to recognize the music is there, and play it

Both are absolutely easy and automatic.... when you are able to use the DS server.

Is there another way? Obviously I don't advocate copyright theft or want to publicize a hack - but in my case I have bought this music and would like a solution.

KZaske

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

Direct Song is not dead, however I also got the same error when I attempted to download the music. I went around the downloader. DirectSong provides an alternate method for downloading the music. You can dowload the music in zip files by going to http://www.directsong.com/zip. You will still need to register the music, but at least you will have it.

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Thanks - is there any clear explanation available of what files to download, where to put them and how they are used?

Basically a step-by-step guide for using this method?

Also, I don't get how this works - how do you acquire the certificates for these if you are not signed into their server?

KZaske

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Torqual View Post
Thanks - is there any clear explanation available of what files to download, where to put them and how they are used?

Basically a step-by-step guide for using this method?

Also, I don't get how this works - how do you acquire the certificates for these if you are not signed into their server?
The site has no clear and easy to follow explaination of how use the files. I had to wing it today. To start things off, those files where the name starts with "directsong" will create a "directsong" folder when extracted. These "directsong" files should be extracted to whatever folder you want to put them into. For me I extracted them into the "My Music" folder. It created the rest of the path.
For those files that do not start with "directsong," there is a batch file (I did not use it) in each archive that should create the correct folder and move the files into the correct folder. Extract these files into the "directsong" folder then locate the bat file to move the wma files into the correct folder. If prompted always over wright existing files.

Extraction order, oldest to newest. Proph, Factions, NightFall, GWEN. Below is a list of file names and the chapter they belong to and the order in which you want to extract them:
DirectSong-GuildWarsSpecialEditionSoundtrack.zip
DirectSong-Sorrow's_Furnace_Mini-Pak.zip
DirectSong-GuildWarsBattlePakOne.zip
GWF101.zip - (Guild Wars: Factions)
GWNF101.zip - (Guild Wars: Nightfall)
GWEN101.zip - (Guild Wars: Eye of the North)

It is impartive that GWEN101 be the last archive extracted as this is the only one that has the current guildwars.ds file in the archive.
Once you have extracted and moved all the music to the correct folders run the file named "RegisterDirectSongDirectory.exe" once it makes the correct registery enteries it will pause for ten seconds then close itself.
Launch media player (no not attempt to play a song), double check to make sure you have cookies enable in media player. Close Media Player. If Media Player is not properly configured, you will waste an install.
In the same order you extracted the music files select a song (it does not matter which one) and attempt to play it. You should see a sign in dialog box, log into Directsong, select the type of install (perm or temp) then click play. Close the Directsong log in window. Close media play and proceed to the next folder repeating the steps above by selecting a single song and attempting to play it. Repeat this cycle until you have played one song from each of the folders you have payed for.

In spite of what some people will tell you, you do not need to play every song in each folder. The License is for the album, not the single.

To check to make sure everything is properly registered, launch guild wars. No need to select a toon, press F11 and go to the sounds folder. If you did it right, you will see the yellow outlined musical note.

That is the quick version of how to do it. Did I miss anything important?

PS: I tried to download the files and install them via the exe again today, failure. I was however able to aquire the license today. The download server used by the exe is not working but the license server is.

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

That's really helpful thanks - but can you open http://www.directsong.com/ today?

The whole site has gone.

I think they really ARE dead now?

TheGifted

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Macon, GA

LF guild of traders/farmers

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the site sems to be down .

i have a quick question on this, does the process outlined above change if you have the original soundtrack disc that came with the Collectors edition?

Snograt

Snograt

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Join Date: Jan 2006

London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST

[GURU]GW [wiki]GW2

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DirectSong
Question:
The downloader says it can't connect to the internet. I'm definitely connected to the internet, so what's the problem?

Solution:
This occurs relatively rarely and most often to people who never use Internet Explorer. It means you have a setting somewhere in IE that is preventing the downloader from connecting to our servers with the right protocol.
How very informative of them :/

(The site works fine for me, by the way)

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snograt View Post
(The site works fine for me, by the way)
Sorry to ask again but are you certain that you can access www.directsong.com right now and you're not just reading cached information?

Because as far as I can see, all trace of it is gone.

KZaske

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

I just checked the site, it is coded as Forbidden; error 403. I am not sure what is going on with the site, his (Jeremy Soule) lease does not expire until 22 August 2009, but the whois shows an update on 15 Jan 2009 at 23:16:35 EST. The support site is still up. Yesterday afternoon I was able to procure licensess for all my music. Did you already download the music?

If you feel you need to, give me a shout on X-Fire: same user name.

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Torqual View Post
Sorry to ask again but are you certain that you can access www.directsong.com right now and you're not just reading cached information?

Because as far as I can see, all trace of it is gone.
Site loads fine for me as well. Can't re-download my SF music though, I get the same timed out error as in your first post.

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

This is strange - the site is back from the dead to the semi-dead state.

The downloader still does not work, and is giving the error message as per my original post.

The FTP site is back up, but I am not able to download media usage rights successfully, despite having licenses remaining.

Strangely enough, I think I was around at the exact moment of the death of the DRM server.

The other night, after reading the instructions above, I downloaded the six different packs of music that I purchased previously. I had the registerdirectsong.exe file ready for use and all I needed was the DRM licenses. I went to play a track from the SF mini pak, and a window opened asking me for the Direct Song username and password. I was able to download media rights for:

GW103
GW101
GW102m
GWF101

...and can now play these in Media Player.

But then, when I tried to download the licenses for GWNF101 and GWEN101 the server stopped working, at the moment, and I couldn't get licenses any more. This was about midnight on Wednesday and I am wondering if I was on at the exact moment of DirectSong's demise, as the ftp site went offline shortly after, with the main site.

I can now get the main site and the ftp site open, but am still unable to download the licenses for Nightfall and Eye of the North. I am frustratingly close to having fixed this the hard way, I just need those licenses.

If anyone manages to acquire licenses for NF or GWEN soundtracks after reading this post, again, please can you say so?

It's weird because (guessing) it's almost like their Authentication Server is working but their DRM one is either not working or semi-working. When I click on a NF or GWEN track in Explorer a box opens me and asks for username/password, then telling me I have licenses remaining and asking whether I want a Permanent or Temporary one. I hit 'Permanent' and then 'Submit', then get a 'page unavailable' error.

At least I could register half of the music, if I want to, but I would really like to finish this job. Any ideas?

KZaske

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

I wish I had any idea other than wait for them to come back online.
Last I knew Microsoft managed the Windows Media DRM servers with information provided to that server from DirectSong's web site.
I had hoped you would be able to get it all. So what are GW102 & GW103? Were those the addational battle packs that were once available?

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

GW102m is the Sorrow's Furnace Mini Pak and GW103 is the Guild Wars Battle Pak One.

So annoying - it's still impossible to download media usage rights for Nightfall (GWNF101) and Eye of the North (GWEN101) - I also tried this on a friend's PC at a different location today and once again failed at the same stage.

I have asked him to try the Battle Pak to see whether it's a specific problem with the two packs or whether it's now impossible to obtain any media rights for Direct Song products. Will report back with details.

I guess that what annoys me (among other things) is that the Direct Song website is still promoting these packs and you could easily be fooled into handing over money, only to find that the downloader doesn't work and - even when you search the web for a solution and downlod the music from their ftp site - you still can't obtain the DRM to what you paid for. Their tech support is non existent, doesn't reply and overall it's totally unnacceptable.

Should this go on much longer I may well raise the issue with GW/ANet customer support and see whether there is any information they can give about what is going on at Direct Song.

I actually wonder how long this has been going on before I tried, then created this thread.

StormLord

StormLord

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

League Of Friends [LOF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Torqual View Post
Should this go on much longer I may well raise the issue with GW/ANet customer support and see whether there is any information they can give about what is going on at Direct Song.
This sounds like a very good idea. DirectSong selling broken stuff with the GuildWars name on it is certainly not in ANets best interest, so they should be willing to put some pressure on DirectSong.

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Well the DRM server seems to be working again, so I managed to get licences for Nightfall and EOTN soundtracks today. I have now put them all into Guild Wars/DirectSong and used the RegisterDirectSong.exe app which found them OK.

I therefore think that I have managed to complete the install of all my DS music the hard/long way. The only problem with this method (and not using the downloader) is that you don't get the symbol in the Sound menu inside GW that shows it's playing the music from Direct Song. Am I looking in the right place for this icon?

The downloader is, of course, still broken.

KZaske

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

Glad to hear that you are fully reinstalled, now is the time to zip up your licences and put them away. As long as you don't reinstall windows or make ANY hardware changes you should be when and if it happens again.

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Erm, any links on how to back up licences?

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

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Vel

Vel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

I had no response from their tech support after trying for several months. Almost a year now. I needed to reset the license number as I upgraded my computer and some of the packs don't have the license left. They asked to email them if I faced this issue and they would reset. But, never got any response back.

Torqual

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

If you have the music files on your PC, it should be possible to get the licenses through Windows Media Player - I had the first success yesterday and I believe it has been fixed.

Maybe give it a try and tell us what happens?

KZaske

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

While I am sure you allready have the address of support; here it is again: [email protected]. Just tell them what happend then check your account on line. I can not say I have ever gotten an emailed reply from them.
As for what to zip up: There is an article on thier support site that covers what files to zip up, however the article was written for XP and it did not work for me. Here is a link that works if you are using any media player prior to 11. http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/0...-usage-rights/ The method listed here will normally work, but I prefer this method: http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/0...license-error/ which is copying the files or zipping them up.

snoozlebugg

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2009

i was easily able to download the zip files, but am still unable to retrieve a license to play them. i've updated software, read just about everything i cna, and still it says i don't have permission to use it. i feel like i've been robbed!

Havoc of PhoeniX

Havoc of PhoeniX

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

England, UK.

Don't Leave a Message After The [Beep]

R/E

Same thing is happening to me. I recently updated my account with a Nightfall collectors edition key and wanted to get the bonus tracks from Direct Song. Managed to find the right area of the site after some time and downloaded the tracks okay but after trying to play them and selecting either permanent or temporary license, there is only an error page.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Digital Rights Management Sucks.

TyrianFury

TyrianFury

Guest

Join Date: May 2006

UK

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I just built a new PC and re-installed GW and when attempting to get my directsong tracks going again I keep getting an error message when trying to acquire the licences via windows media player.

I contacted support two days ago but no response.

I hope I can get my licenses back, I hate this stupid DRM stuff.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ok. First of all, lets face it right now. DRM sucks (as I've said before). But we also need to face this: Every person who legally and rightfully purchased a license key for GW, to play GW, rightfully owns the soundtrack too. I'm sure Mr. Soule got his share from every copy of GW sold. Those mp3's sitting in your dat are yours, simple. They aren't as high quality as the ones on Direct Song, but they sound good. Now, ... as I've said you should rightfully own the music since you purchased the game as well, that shouldn't be a problem going out to a site like FFshrine to look for GW music? You should RIGHTFULLY own these piece of music. For god sake you can rip them from the dat or record them from the game. I don't endorse the ripping, recording or downloading from online, but I'm simply noting the options and your own rights, ffs.

That being said on the more steady path ... it is EQUALLY as easy to fork the cash out and go to ebay or half.com and look for the soundtrack CD's there too. Import them in iTunes as AAC or MP3 or Windows Media Player as WMA and enjoy, your choice. CD's are hard copy and you can rip them freely as many times as you want.

I think jeremy needs to also look into putting the Guild Wars soundtracks on iTunes. I also note there is NO DRM on iTunes anymore to date that I can find and the quality is fantastic.

KZaske

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by TyrianFury View Post
I just built a new PC and re-installed GW and when attempting to get my directsong tracks going again I keep getting an error message when trying to acquire the licences via windows media player.

I contacted support two days ago but no response.

I hope I can get my licenses back, I hate this stupid DRM stuff.
Edit: Deleted the previous message. DirectSong is BACK! If you go out and redownload each of the packs and follow the instructions included, DirectSong will work again. These new versions were uploaded on 6 April 2010.

Emily Diehl

Emily Diehl

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2010

ArenaNet Home Base

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by KZaske View Post
Edit: Deleted the previous message. DirectSong is BACK! If you go out and redownload each of the packs and follow the instructions included, DirectSong will work again. These new versions were uploaded on 6 April 2010.
Hi guys! I just noticed this thread. If anyone still runs into issues after this, post what's happening and I'll see if it's something we can help with. Even though we don't run DirectSong, we can still pass on questions about possible problems.

Keep the questions/reports on target, though. It's tough to pass on information if we're unclear about what's being asked.

KZaske

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

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Originally Posted by Emily Diehl View Post
Hi guys! I just noticed this thread. If anyone still runs into issues after this, post what's happening and I'll see if it's something we can help with. Even though we don't run DirectSong, we can still pass on questions about possible problems.

Keep the questions/reports on target, though. It's tough to pass on information if we're unclear about what's being asked.
Thanks for the help Emily. I am sure ANet put pressure on DirectSong to fix the issues. Any chance we will get Sorrow's Furnace back? It is the only one of the paks that is no longer available. No MP3 no DRM free WMA.

Emily Diehl

Emily Diehl

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Join Date: Apr 2010

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No problem, KZaske! I'm not sure about the Sorrow's question. I'll ask around tomorrow and see if I can find out.

TyrianFury

TyrianFury

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Join Date: May 2006

UK

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Thanks for getting on the case Emily, I really appreciate it so thanks. I see the Factions and Nightfall packs are now available again and DRM free which is great.

I also have the Sorrows Furnace MiniPak and the Guild Wars Battle Pack which I paid for. I noticed these are no longer available and as I mentioned in my previous post the DRM license server is no longer online so I can't get them working again.

If these two packs could be added in a similar fashion to the Factions and Nightfall CE packs that would be fantastic! If not then I'd be just as happy for the DRM server to be back up. Either way it’s such a shame for these excellent music additions to be forgotten.

As the game is nearly 5 years old why not make them available to everyone anyway


Thanks again

Emily Diehl

Emily Diehl

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You're very welcome again, guys. I've sent an email off to a few folks that may be able to shed some light on what's going on (and should be able to point me in the right direction for investigation), so hopefully we can give you an answer about this soon.

Thanks for being patient and letting us know about the issue, and sorry about the trouble you've run into!

KZaske

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by TyrianFury View Post
...SNIP...
I also have the Sorrows Furnace MiniPak and the Guild Wars Battle Pack which I paid for. I noticed these are no longer available and as I mentioned in my previous post the DRM license server is no longer online so I can't get them working again. ...SNIP...
Thanks again
The Build Wars Battle Pack is available if you are refering to "Guild Wars Battle Pak One." I downloaded it and installed it yesterday, it is working fine. As for the Sorrow's Furnace Mini-Pack, it was a free sample offered shortly after Sorrow's furnace went live. No one actually paid for it, but it has a song in it I MUST have back. It was the one song that convinced me I wanted DirectSong.

@Emily: Would you be so kind as to thank Jeremy Soule and company for the huge update they did to the GuildWars.ds file. It is now possible to know where each song is played and when, without any third party applications. It is so nice to have the music again.

DoomFrost

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Alright this is amazing, I re-downloaded the DRM free Guild Wars music (the zip's with the MP3's), and the archive also includes DRM free WMA files. This is a great update by DirectSong being that I can finally listen to what I paid for in game without having to worry about licensing. The only I'm missing is the Sorrow's Furnace music, but everything else is there. Big thank you to DirectSong and whoever else was behind this!

TyrianFury

TyrianFury

Guest

Join Date: May 2006

UK

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Cool, OK I logged into my DirectSong account and it did indeed let me download Battle Pack One once again (DRM FREE!) so this is great news. Funny how I can't download Sorrows Furnace Minipack even though it's on my purchase list just no download option.

I hope they fix this soon so my Guild Wars installation will once more be complete.

KZaske

KZaske

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Boise Idaho

Druids Of Old (DOO)

R/Mo

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Originally Posted by Emily Diehl View Post
You're very welcome again, guys. I've sent an email off to a few folks that may be able to shed some light on what's going on (and should be able to point me in the right direction for investigation), so hopefully we can give you an answer about this soon.

Thanks for being patient and letting us know about the issue, and sorry about the trouble you've run into!
I keep hoping for Sorrows. Any update?