The most underplayed class?

SimplyQuestions

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Join Date: Feb 2009

I'm wanting to know the most underplayed class, obviously. Threads created and Posts made don't show enough. Though I am assuming by those at the moment (thus, I think the Ritualist is the least played at the time being), I still would like to know the truth.

darkagent343

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Irish Mafia

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As far as people looking for groups id say monks.

always hard to find.

kazi_saki

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Ritualist. Definitely. We need a buff bad.

At least mesmers got those cryer builds for farming and they have a niche in the PvP scene.

Rits got nothing much on both sides but i love em and they're fun to play. Not much use though haha.

They also look cool

Winterclaw

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Paragon, rit, or mesmer. I'm tempted to say mesmer only because it requires a bit more work to learn how to use it well.

Saraneth

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I'm leaning toward rits over mesmers due to cryway's rise in popularity. I'd also place dervishes before imbagons, but I'm only mentioning that 'cause I rarely play mine.

turbo234

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WI

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Assuming this isn't just referring to pve, it would be Paragons without a doubt. Rits are at least used in pvp more often, and for mesmers in pve cryway has brought them back, and have always been used in pvp.

Anwyn

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lol, for me it's Monk, I can't stand watching red bars, you miss half the action in the game.

As far as the community goes, I reckon it's either Paragon or Rt, altho as said before, Imbagon has made paragon more viable in high end PVE, meaning more people are playing it...

poasiods

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PvP-wise, I'd go with paragons. Mesmers are plenty and ritualists get to run flags in GvG. Paragons aren't all that beneficial due to small party sizes in AB/RA/TA they don't seem to get much action in GvG either.

Lourens

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Id say Paragon no1 wants them anymore since we got cryway

and rits just go Rt/Me with [Cry of Pain] and [spirit rift]

Toxzy

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Monks and paragons imo.

Anime Divine

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rt definatly i dont see them alot.
paragons too but im always happy to get a para in my team

Cebe

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But I get what you saving, pve monking is boooorrring PvE Monking is only boring when playing with henchmen and heroes. With humans it's far more interesting. Not as fun as PvP monking mind you, but still fairly fun.

It's too difficult to say which class is the most underplayed. Mesmer, Ritualist and Paragon are probably definitely up there, but given people never PuG anymore, it's hard to gain a real insight into what professions people actually are playing, rather than the professions people are using the stand around in Kamadan with.

Lishy

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Paragon.
People claim they look gay. But so what? A paragon is my main, and quite honestly, don't take this the wrong way, but I think their extra "manly" feel adds to their badassery.

I cannot define how bad the starter armor looks though.

Elder III

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I agree with you Beaver - since nobody PUGS these days it is indeed difficult to say what people are actually playing anymore. I would say that Rt is what I see the least "standing around", but Paragon is pretty close.

greyhawk

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it really depends what and how your team is playing.

if you are farming/cry/RoJ, you wont see derv, para, war,

if you are playing balance you wont see as much mes, dervs,

RT's make great volly, barragers due to 16 channeling, good spirit spammers, and ok MM's depending how you do it.

paras with imba, stunning, cruel spear are around lots in balance.

this is what i have seen with in my guild and alliance.

the_jos

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Depends a bit on how you measure.

For fair measurement I'd say exclude farming (team)builds. And look at PvE (since this is Campfire). Only a very limited part of the community would be involved in Farming I'd say.
I think this would make Ritualists, Mesmers and Monks the least played professions.
Assassin would see some usage but mainly the 'I want to be ninja' players.
And I'm assuming that most players will play either solo or in small 'random' groups.
Doesn't have to be PUG, but can also be random players from a guild/alliance.

The reason? Playing monk with H&H is both boring and annoying.
And playing with randoms means you get the blame for a lot of things you can't help.
Mesmers are fun to play but not very effective against large groups (without CoP/VoR).
Many players want to see big damage numbers on the screen, not disabling some foe that's dead in 5 seconds anyway.
The main disadvantage of the Ritualist in my opinion is the static positioning of the spirits. Rt is fun, but not when you want to move accros a field fast. I know there is a PvE skill for that but not all players will have that. They have several very decent spells but those depend on the way of play and the team.
Assassins are squishy and can't in general be used to hold aggro (there are exceptions).
They are the class to move in, kill a target and move out.
Not really something you'd like to do in PvE because of imbalanced groups.

Considering the above I'd say the least profession in PvE is the Ritualist.
Second would be monk or ritualist, fourth would be assassin.

Once we take farming builds into concideration things will change a lot.
Monks will be there, solo, duo or in full teams.
Assassins are used a lot. Mesmers somewhat with CoP.
Only role left out will be Rt.

I think the 'winner' would be Ritualist in both cases

Silicon Based

Academy Page

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Question has been asked before in another post somewhere on Guru.

Anyway http://gwchars.de gives a rather good indication of professions in GW.

kostolomac

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Rits definitely , followed by paragons and mesmers.

Improvavel

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I think Paragons are the least used. Rits have both spirits, and while they aren't particularly good people seem to think otherwise, and are from factions.

Mesmers probably are a bit more used than rits and paras.

pingu666

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guildhall

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rits, quite easily

dr love

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Hyperion

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yea this has been asked a bunch of times.
look at the prices of runes, that pretty much tells you how much people like and play a certain class in pve. rt, me, and para are all dirt cheap and go along with the general concensus. not many play them. on the other hand, theres millions of warriors and monks. most people play them as their main

Perkunas

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If the answer has any importance to people, poll it. Poll can be broken down into 3 categories to reflect PvP, PvE, and farming. In each category, list all 12 classes. Everyone selects what they currently have and regularly play. If you have all and play all regularly, mark all of them. If you have all, but only play 2, mark the 2 played. "Mules" don't count as they are not "played". Regular play can be defined as, equal time played on each in a given time period. Logging on to just chat with friends, can't really be classed as playing.

Back on topic:

I see almost equal numbers of all classes campaign specific in the beginning areas of each campaign. As I reach "higher leveled" areas, the classes that deal less direct or spike damage are fewer. It tends to take a special touch to direct your H/H, when you are not a damage dealer. Many people give up on classes like Mesmer, Rit, and in my case, a pure smite monk (not support, but damage dealing).

MasterSasori

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[Thay]

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Paragons for their "skirts"

Mesmers for their "PvE suckiness"

Rits because most ppl try spirit spamming and realize how sh*t it is.

Lusciious

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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_jos View Post
Depends a bit on how you measure.

For fair measurement I'd say exclude farming (team)builds. And look at PvE (since this is Campfire). Only a very limited part of the community would be involved in Farming I'd say.
I think this would make Ritualists, Mesmers and Monks the least played professions.
Assassin would see some usage but mainly the 'I want to be ninja' players.
And I'm assuming that most players will play either solo or in small 'random' groups.
Doesn't have to be PUG, but can also be random players from a guild/alliance.

The reason? Playing monk with H&H is both boring and annoying.
And playing with randoms means you get the blame for a lot of things you can't help.
Mesmers are fun to play but not very effective against large groups (without CoP/VoR).
Many players want to see big damage numbers on the screen, not disabling some foe that's dead in 5 seconds anyway.
The main disadvantage of the Ritualist in my opinion is the static positioning of the spirits. Rt is fun, but not when you want to move accros a field fast. I know there is a PvE skill for that but not all players will have that. They have several very decent spells but those depend on the way of play and the team.
Assassins are squishy and can't in general be used to hold aggro (there are exceptions).
They are the class to move in, kill a target and move out.
Not really something you'd like to do in PvE because of imbalanced groups.

Considering the above I'd say the least profession in PvE is the Ritualist.
Second would be monk or ritualist, fourth would be assassin.

Once we take farming builds into concideration things will change a lot.
Monks will be there, solo, duo or in full teams.
Assassins are used a lot. Mesmers somewhat with CoP.
Only role left out will be Rt.

I think the 'winner' would be Ritualist in both cases the 330 hp vwk rit build on pvxwiki > most of the 55 monk farming builds you can think of and a 105 hp vwk rit build somewhere on GWG Forum > many SoA Monk Builds.

if you were to ask me, rits are the 2nd best farmers, right below assassins.

back to topic.

the most underplayed class in my opinions PvE wise would be dervishes.

reason being:
1)a dervish isn't a core class.
2)assassins and rits are awesome farmers.
3)paragons are way better at PvE than a dervish.
4)dervish can't farm as fast/well as other professions cause it requires you to hit. a normal blind/anti melee hex would render you uselses.

the most underplayed class for PvP CURRENTLY would be either a paragon or a dervish. Monks, Warriors, Rangers, Rits can be seen alot at high end PvP. Mesmers, Necros, Eles, Assassins can be seen alot at low end PvP ( i'm not saying you dont see them at high end pvp. just not as much ). 2 professions left = dervishes or paragons. idk but i dont see those 2 much anyway.

random.name

Wilds Pathfinder

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Just by going to what I see in outposts I would say it is Rit, followed by Mes.

fatelord

Ascalonian Squire

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lusciious View Post
the 330 hp vwk rit build on pvxwiki > most of the 55 monk farming builds you can think of and a 105 hp vwk rit build somewhere on GWG Forum > many SoA Monk Builds.

if you were to ask me, rits are the 2nd best farmers, right below assassins.

back to topic.

the most underplayed class in my opinions PvE wise would be dervishes.

reason being:
1)a dervish isn't a core class.
2)assassins and rits are awesome farmers.
3)paragons are way better at PvE than a dervish.
4)dervish can't farm as fast/well as other professions cause it requires you to hit. a normal blind/anti melee hex would render you uselses.

the most underplayed class for PvP CURRENTLY would be either a paragon or a dervish. Monks, Warriors, Rangers, Rits can be seen alot at high end PvP. Mesmers, Necros, Eles, Assassins can be seen alot at low end PvP ( i'm not saying you dont see them at high end pvp. just not as much ). 2 professions left = dervishes or paragons. idk but i dont see those 2 much anyway.
What you think is the best class isn't relevant here ...Paragons aren't better than dervishes only they are by far the strongest class PVE wise ...however playing as an imbagon is boring hence they are not very popular ..

The price of runes is perhaps the best measure ...

fatelord

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^^^ Yup ..In nightfall everyone is a Dervish .....

Necros are Godly too in PVE ..second strongest ....best damage dealers Paras decrease the damage everyone in your team takes by 90% ALL the time nothing compares to that ..

Verene

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Rit, Mesmer, and Paragon, I'd say.

I must admit I don't really play with my Rit anymore, though I've fallen in love with Mesmer recently.

iVendetta

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Rit, Mesmer, and Paragon, I'd say. Mesmers lack popularity in PvE. However, they hold a higher supremacy in PvP than most.

Vehemence

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Ritualist and Paragon. I saw lots of Mesmers nowadays.

fatelord

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Mesmers are like the Gods of PVP ....I hate it when i see one ...regardless of what my class maybe ..

Ben-A-BoO

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Ritualists deffo ... Paragon are all over the place at least in organized HM teams.

D A R K S O I F O N

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ritualists + mesmers are the two professioned chars i rearly c in pve