The most underplayed class?

Magikarp

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

This question used to be easily answered with "mesmer", but not so much anymore. Rits are way more scarce these days, and a GOOD rit is fun to watch. Mesmers are great fun to play, but usually "doing nothing" when another player looks at them seeing as they don't really move a whole lot lol.

In order (my opinion of course, based on nothing but obs) from least played to most:

Rit
Mesmer
Paragon
Sin
Monk
Derv
Ranger
Necro
Ele
War

I'd love to see a huge Spawning Power buff and some skill revamps/buffs, especially in Communing and overall damage/support. Make Spawning act like expertise for spirits+lower their casting time and recharge based on a scale, all while buffing said spirits! :P I miss playing my rit haha

zling

zling

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

PvE speaking, definatly Dervishes.
Paras have Imbagon
Rits have Rt/N MMs, spirit spammers(better in PvE than PvP), etc
Sins, well, you know...
Mesmers have [cry of pain] which a lot of other caster classes use, but no other cryer beats the [echo]+[arcane echo]+[cry of pain] combo
the rest are used quite frequently so no need to elaborate.

P.S I'm not saying Dervishes are never used, as some newbies use [avatar of balthazar] and stuff, some people use 130 farmer or the other Dervish solo FoW/UW builds, etc. but they're still a clear minority compared to all other classes.

Rhamia Darigaz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

oh, you must have been talking about that pve obs.

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

i rarely see Paragons in PvE and PvP. though they are defintely the gods of PvE, and they are great in GvG/HA. i mean really, walk around Kamadan D1 and tell me how many paragons you see beyond level 3. they are definitely a rarity.

Xhizors

Xhizors

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2009

Europe

Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magikarp View Post
This question used to be easily answered with "mesmer", but not so much anymore. Rits are way more scarce these days, and a GOOD rit is fun to watch. Mesmers are great fun to play, but usually "doing nothing" when another player looks at them seeing as they don't really move a whole lot lol.

In order (my opinion of course, based on nothing but obs) from least played to most:

Rit
Mesmer
Paragon
Sin
Monk
Derv
Ranger
Necro
Ele
War

I'd love to see a huge Spawning Power buff and some skill revamps/buffs, especially in Communing and overall damage/support. Make Spawning act like expertise for spirits+lower their casting time and recharge based on a scale, all while buffing said spirits! :P I miss playing my rit haha lol i see more Sins then wars.

SimplyAmazing

SimplyAmazing

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Cho's Estate

Agents Of Indecision

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kazi_saki View Post
Ritualist. Definitely. We need a buff bad.

At least mesmers got those cryer builds for farming and they have a niche in the PvP scene.

Rits got nothing much on both sides but i love em and they're fun to play. Not much use though haha.

They also look cool well, as a Rit you can successfully be a very very great cryer, just use attuned, and ghostly haste and you can be a very very effective cryer with amazing e-management, also i would never say rit is the most under-played class, smokin rox if you think otherwise, granted they're not as popular as monks and sins, i use my 600 rit to run kathandrax, SoO, UW, FoW, and CoF, as well as many other people, as 600 rit is massively faster than 600 monking, also i take a break from my RoJ or bip very often and use my rit as a cryer, as stated above, or FS for vsf'ing, just goto umbral grotto and take a look at how many Rt/Me /// Rt/R's are there. also for pve in general(questing/missions), in my opinion rit makes the best MM, spawning power ftw, i use an "Asuran Summonmancer" i jack up spawning power, with explosive growth, boon of creation, vanguard sin, summon ice imp, and of course the minions(vamp,golem, and bone minions). the spell that summons two minions, really pwns mobs because of explosive growth, dealing about 180 dmg combined. i would say, the most underplayed class for Pve, would be paras, basically because i find them completely useless, unless they're a secondary to a necro for bip, otherwise there is just much much better options. for pvp i would say para's again, atleast that's what i've noticed, i rarely have the opportunity to destroy spear chuckers.

sorry for the wall of text!

I Twisted Fate I

I Twisted Fate I

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

Australia

Dark Knights in The Light [DARK]

N/D

I think that Rits or Dervs are the most underplayed classes, Which Is sad I love my derv .. But I love my MONK MOAR! just my 2c Buff the DERVVV!!!!

Cuilan

Cuilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2008

Me/

I have all the expansions and I don't see very many Paragon or Ritualists. It's a shame since both can be pretty helpful. I guess it can be the same for mesmers, but now and then I see some.

thatboybibbs

thatboybibbs

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2009

Texas

Gimme Your [Zkey]

Me/

Honestly, it will depend on the area you are in..you cannot go by what you see in outpost, because time zone is also a factor. In one way or another, most of the classes are played equal in one respect or another.

D A R K S O I F O N

D A R K S O I F O N

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2009

^ ^In your bedroom (0-_-0)

Unexpected Advantage (UA)

E/Me

rits and dervishes. Rearly see them in pve

HBlix

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

This is the average of all minor, major, and superior runes. Profession-specific insignias were not counted.

1. Monk: 592.5
2. Necromancer: 505
3. Elementalist: 274
4. Assassin: 212.72... (Superior Shadow Arts runes are sold out, so this is likely inaccurate)
5. Dervish: 202.5
6. Warrior: 200
7. Ranger: 165.83...
8. Mesmer: 103.33...
8. Ritualist: 103.33...
9. Paragon: 101.67...

This should give a rough idea of how much people use the various professions over all PvE aspects of the game (and those who use PvE characters to PvP).

Now, since this is just the result of the number of runes sold to the vendor versus those purchased, it also includes runes purchased for heroes. Assuming that whether a profession is "good" or not affects its popularity, the choices people make for their heroes should be somewhat representative of overall profession representation. I.e., necromancers are good at PvE, so people outfit their heroes with necromancer runes in lieu of using human necromancers.

HBlix

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat View Post
This is huge these days and you can hardly draw accurate conclusions about players as a result. For every 1 player charater there are at least 3, but more likely 6-8 fully runed heroes. They are the greater part of the economy.
Yes, but how many people have spirit spamming ritualist heroes? How many spirit spamming ritualists are there in all? If a class is generally less used as a player, it's more than likely less used as a hero, as well (or even less so, since, for example, heroes can't be imbagons).

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Originally Posted by FoxBat View Post
Also averaging all the minors/majors/sups together isn't the best method either. If there is a class/build where majors or sups are favored, their value will be inflated compared to the # of people playing, because sups are in shorter supply than minors. Edit: Misread
No class totally favors Superior runes, and the only major runes that are worth anything are the direct result of cheap or poor players not purchasing those superior runes that are somewhat expensive. Also, minor runes are probably about as likely to be found as superior, as you can't get blue salvage items from high end or HM chests.

Some were suggesting a look at rune prices, so I took an inventory. It's (slightly) more scientific than retelling your experiences of sitting in a Doomlore Shrine filled with Mo/Me's and A/E's and concluding that they are the most popular (which, is probably true).

rick1027

rick1027

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/R

the rune price should be the closest of the bunch but remember that includes heros that are runes up people use. i know not all my heros are runes to the max only the ones i use the most. there is the fact you only got two rit heros and three necro and you notice how the farming classes tend to be high because youre buying several of the runes to make you lower health

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by HBlix View Post
If a class is generally less used as a player, it's more than likely less used as a hero, as well
But the reverse isn't true. Necro runes are sure to be vastly overrepresented given all the infamous triple necro builds. As in over half of all active player characters will have at least partially runed necros heroes. That would be over twice the number of necro runes versus all other classes combined.

There are plenty of absurdly strong HM templates for paragons and warriors, and perhaps plenty of players behind them, but they won't show up here at all because they make for awful heroes. Same for Ether Renewal eles, Dervish and Sin aoe frontliners, Monks (heroes are so bad at the job)

Quote: No class totally favors Superior runes There's only a few situations where superiors are worth it:
- Death Magic for minion armies
- Farming builds, esp. Obs/SF builds which suffer nothing for it.
- In case you want a seperate setup for JQ.

So basically, sups are a measure of necros and farming. (Although farming isn't a terrible barometer for what people spend alot of time playing.)

I noticed much of the value for monks comes from superior divine and smiting monk runes. I submit this has mostly to do with JQ, where you need the sup smite to kill anything. Although 55 is probably some small contributor still, and maybe people are going nuts with max RoJ heroes too.

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Also, minor runes are probably about as likely to be found as superior, as you can't get blue salvage items from high end or HM chests. Yes but they drop like flies in both normal and hard mode from various mobs whether by farm or normal playing. Chests are a drop in the bucket here, and while sups are far more common than they used to be, minors are even vastly more common.

So why is necro soul reaping so high? Because all three sabway heroes need it, while the other runes differ.

Quote:
Some were suggesting a look at rune prices, so I took an inventory. It's (slightly) more scientific than retelling your experiences of sitting in a Doomlore Shrine filled with Mo/Me's and A/E's and concluding that they are the most popular (which, is probably true). This method used to have merit but it's significantly weaker now. I remember when dervish runes spiked hugely in price and sold out at the trader for a few days. It wasn't because of some new cool dervish farm build- it was when they added M.O.X. Still yes, it might tell us something that anecdotes don't, but heroes add such a complicating factor to rune prices these days.

Still if you just did something like factor out necros and majors/sups, we'd probably get a decent picture - which isn't all that different from what is posted. Anything near 100 total runes is at the floor and has absymally low demand. Meanwhile crap heroes like warriors, rangers, and dervs command around 200 mostly on the strength of their player base, which is way over double the demand of the bottom feeders - and also compares very favorably with the hero-inflated necro numbers. So take your pick of mesmer, para, or rit for least popular class, that certainly squares with my anecdotal experience.

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

Dervish & Ritualist

Warriors = Earthshaker
Mesmers = CoP
Monks = supmonks
Paragon = imbagon
Ranger = splinterbarrage and people unwilling to abandon their ranger
Assassins = permasin
necros = AP nukers
elementalist = nukers, etc.

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

Yay for Racway. Strong, brave, rare, and CHEAP.