Xunlai Tournament House - March

Regina Buenaobra

Regina Buenaobra

ArenaNet

Join Date: Apr 2008

Me/

Hey, everyone. We're aware of the problems with this months' Xunlai Tournament House.

We're going to do another build to correct the errors in point distributions. Any extra points you earned, you will keep. We will not be subtracting any reward points.

We're really sorry about the recurring issues with XTH. I know it's annoying when you don't get the correct number of points. We're not happy either when issues pop up and cause so much inconvenience to our players. (I think our QA manager is considering going into one of our sound booths to let out some screams -- maybe we'll have the audio team turn on some recording equipment so we can use it for GW2 :-P).

We're actively exploring ways to improve XTH and streamline the (relatively complicated) backend process. With the small Live Team deep in development for the April update, we're getting squeezed for time. But we want to let you know that we do know there are issues, and we do know that these issues are causing dissatisfaction and irritation, and it is on the To Do list to improve XTH. Once again, we apologize.

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

Quote:
(I think our QA manager is considering going into one of our sound booths to let out some screams -- maybe we'll have the audio team turn on some recording equipment so we can use it for GW2 :-P)
Ok, that right there made me lol.

Thanks for the speedy update Regina & Co.

P.S. - Please fix the description for WoW in pve. It has the added clause in it. (ends on ally's next attack)

Kamakazi112

Kamakazi112

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra View Post
maybe we'll have the audio team turn on some recording equipment so we can use it for GW2 :-P).
OMFG NEWS ON GW2!!!..

ahah but still thanks for the points

Rexion

Rexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

[Luck]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra View Post
maybe we'll have the audio team turn on some recording equipment so we can use it for GW2 :-P)
START THE SPECULATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMIGOSH BOSS DEATH NOISESSS. NO WAYY.

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thanks for the update :]

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra View Post
I think our QA manager is considering going into one of our sound booths to let out some screams
I have one of those at work - I can assure you it's wonderful stress therapy.

Apollo Smile

Apollo Smile

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

[LORE]

E/Mo

Thanks for the heads up.

englitdaudelin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

East Coast

Soldier's Union [SU]

N/Me

Thanks. We appreciate it.

trickfred

trickfred

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Canadia

It's A Trick Get An [Axe]

Thank you very much.

Phox

Phox

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2008

Open Minded Forever [OMF]

R/

Thanks Kun Shao eh Regina! <3²

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

More fail..............

Killah K

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

The Mirror Of Reason [SNOW]

thank you.... i thought i was going crazy when it said i didnt make predictions ....lol

distilledwill

distilledwill

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Blighty

The Legion of the Blue Blade

R/Mo

Aw man, the one month I dont get involved ppl get extra points and get to keep them! Damn.

TheGuildWarsPenguin

TheGuildWarsPenguin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Los Angeles, California

Picnic Pioneers

E/

I received no points this month, and I didn't get extra points last month. Double you tee ef.

Crimzon_DST

Crimzon_DST

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Houston, TX

Dark Soul Takers

D/

Thank you guys for the new build... but i still have a couple accts that are not getting anything. Normally i wouldnt care but i wasnt lucky enough to log on last month in time for the double points, so i just want what i earned at least.. Again, hopefully there will be another build since the last one seemed to fix some of the accts but not all.

Thank You

Adult

Adult

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

South Texas

Paper St Fight Club [Soap]

Mo/

Whoops, just came for submitting a ticket for my 3 accounts that were missing points... /ignore me then i guess

Codin The Great

Codin The Great

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2008

You will never know!!!!

Guardians of Hades [GoH]

W/E

thanks for the notice. We appreciate it.

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

ty, regina! my 11 alts are some very happy campers b/c of this update. :]

450+ zkeys ftw. :>

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

*wilhelm scream*

Nessar

Nessar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

West Siiiiiiiiiiiiiide

Gwen Has A Thing For [Pyre]

Thanks Regina. I didn't think that I'd get 130 points on all 3 of my accounts xD.

Icy The Mage

Icy The Mage

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada

E/

Hehe, now I feel silly for submitting 2 tickets

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

This is anets way to make keys cost under 1k. Has there been a month yet without XTH errors?

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Drops Az View Post
This is anets way to make keys cost under 1k. Has there been a month yet without XTH errors?
At one point in time I thought the addition of z keys would make the overall populace more inclined to gain balth faction. Cough another form/incentive to partake in the other half of the game. Then preds came and people with 20+acc's came because their 80+man PVE guild died and certain people ended up with info. Recent actions and failures have shown me otherwise, another failed attempt, Anet. Shit I sound like a crying baby

AKB48

AKB48

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2008

みやき町

Mo/A

Pathetic, just a diversion to get us to keep our voice down. "Yeah, we're working on the problem.......but just don't expect any solutions any time soon 'cause we are focusing all our energy for the April update, and there is simply no time"......Boy, will this be an update for the game or an entire upgrade for Guild Wars?

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ec]-[oMaN View Post
At one point in time I thought the addition of z keys would make the overall populace more inclined to gain balth faction. Cough another form/incentive to partake in the other half of the game. Then preds came and people with 20+acc's came because their 80+man PVE guild died and certain people ended up with info. Recent actions and failures have shown me otherwise, another failed attempt, Anet. Shit I sound like a crying baby
Yep XTH rewards are way too high (got 3*150points today, this is insane). As much as it will help me get my FoW armor, I hate that it doesn't promote the move from PvE to PvP. (but I hate even more how steep the PvP learning curve is, offtopic...)

I'm wondering whether this cockup happened because the update was released early (first week of the month), rather than later (second week of the month) as happened before. Honestly, they need to invest the dev time to fix this, month after month it's getting worse, and as much as I hate to say it, people are greedy enough (this is free stuff THAT WE CAN HAVE WITH ALMOST NO EFFORT at a basic level, there's even an app to do it for you...) to get pissed by stuff like that. They shouldn't, but they will.

Jenn

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hahahah, I'm sure everyone will enjoy the extra keys

Thanks for the info ^_^

Xun Rama

Xun Rama

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2009

W/A

Just so you know... (don't shoot the messenger)

When you got the points (25, or whatever it was), it took away the amount owed for getting double last month, and the next round of reward points (130 for example) is completely unreduced.

So basically, we got double last month for free, and an extra 25-55rp this month for free too.

Hey, I love the keys, but just letting you know.

Sirds

Sirds

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Riga

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin View Post
Yep XTH rewards are way too high (got 3*150points today, this is insane). As much as it will help me get my FoW armor, I hate that it doesn't promote the move from PvE to PvP. (but I hate even more how steep the PvP learning curve is, offtopic...)

I'm wondering whether this cockup happened because the update was released early (first week of the month), rather than later (second week of the month) as happened before. Honestly, they need to invest the dev time to fix this, month after month it's getting worse, and as much as I hate to say it, people are greedy enough (this is free stuff THAT WE CAN HAVE WITH ALMOST NO EFFORT at a basic level, there's even an app to do it for you...) to get pissed by stuff like that. They shouldn't, but they will.
We get ingame reward for logging to webpage, but not playing game. This is wrong from the start.
I understand if this happened one time like promotion, but this happened continously - we get reward for no playing GW.

kupp

kupp

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Shiverpeaks

[KISS]

W/

Got the rewards, 130 prediction points the same as last month, and I was expecting around 80 points? Nice surprise though

Not so nice is the price of zkeys plumming every month, ffs there's people trying to buy as low as 3.5k now.

t00115577

t00115577

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/

haha this is like 100 times better than the actual update love extra points!

Came out with 130/155/155/180 on 4 acc's, gogo zkeys, must sell fast before they worth 1k lol

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirds View Post
We get ingame reward for logging to webpage, but not playing game. This is wrong from the start.
I understand if this happened one time like promotion, but this happened continously - we get reward for no playing GW.
You were supposed to actually observe games to make predictions. In the end the tools (Guru threads at first, then automatic) took over the pedagogic aspect and transformed XTH into another farm bringing one more title (and e-peen emote) and money sink.

(I do appreciate how zchest gives you skins that may take time to get, it's really nice to be able to see all these skins for yourself, even if most of the time stats are meh)

Suggestion: reward only points if you actually observe games regularly, that would be strong (can still be abused at will) but may send the right message; combine this with reducing rewards to 1/4th (or 1/3rd ?) of the amount of TRP we get now.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirds View Post
We get ingame reward for logging to webpage, but not playing game. This is wrong from the start.
I understand if this happened one time like promotion, but this happened continously - we get reward for no playing GW.
There are reasons why ...

See?

t00115577

t00115577

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin View Post
You were supposed to actually observe games to make predictions. In the end the tools (Guru threads at first, then automatic) took over the pedagogic aspect and transformed XTH into another farm bringing one more title (and e-peen emote) and money sink.

(I do appreciate how zchest gives you skins that may take time to get, it's really nice to be able to see all these skins for yourself, even if most of the time stats are meh)

Suggestion: reward only points if you actually observe games regularly, that would be strong (can still be abused at will) but may send the right message; combine this with reducing rewards to 1/4th (or 1/3rd ?) of the amount of TRP we get now.


DONT DO IT!!!!

Why would anyone complain about the XTH, abuse it and become rich like the rest of us. It sickens me as much as lotto winners complaining about all their problems.

Lycan Nibbler

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

AZ

I say the rewards are much too much and should be reduced 10fold.. and its got nothing to do with the fact Ive finished the title ^.^

It wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt a fact that the entry/password information supplied on the Xunlai page is probably the least secure place of all.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

I just hate how every time this happens im unable to get on at the point where i get the reward points. they fix it when i get on therfere no extra freebies

TideSwayer

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Drops Az View Post
It wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt a fact that the entry/password information supplied on the Xunlai page is probably the least secure place of all.
Obviously I'm no idiot and use a different email for my main account than I do for GW forums or the XTH login info. However, to connect your XTH account with your game account you have to list your account name (ie. your main GW email anyways) in your preferences. If it's not possible already (is it?), I really wish you could just use the character name that you registered with Tohlkano as your ladder Account Name instead of this (intended-to-be) secretive email address to link your XTH. Granted, my passwords for these two accounts are pretty freakin' random strings, but I'd like for one piece of info to not contain the other in the unfortunate event someone got access to my XTH login.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

Quote:
I hate that it doesn't promote the move from PvE to PvP.
There are likely a lot of players for which nothing will be able to promote such a move...

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Verene View Post
There are likely a lot of players for which nothing will be able to promote such a move...
If nothing can be done, nothing will be done.

Quote courtesy of myself.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

Thanks for the info Ms Regina.

Now, What extra keys!?! There's no extra points Ms Regina, once again, one of my account did not get any points while i use the same prediction/selection, its impossible that one of them don't get any points at all, both time the same account didn't get. So, can I assume, that if players get to keep what ever is extra, that those who did not get for 2 months straight now will get whatever points to be carried forward to the next months? If not how do i get these points?

How come some of the top 8 guilds aren't even on the list that we can choose from during the prediction period?

Dark-NighT

Dark-NighT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Stygian Veil

Shoop Da Woop [Lolz]

N/Mo

Thats awesome, id thought i would still have a debt from last months double payout, but as it turns out thats gone now as well because i did get points, enough for 63 keys.

Thank you Regina.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fril Estelin View Post
If nothing can be done, nothing will be done.

Quote courtesy of myself.
Yes, because not everyone is interested in it.