Alot of Gw hype lately, gw2 qs, adverts on tv, whats next? Will the Books come out?

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*note to admins, I posted this here because, the gw on chuck thread was in here, so i guessed that it was on similar lines to it.

Now, we should have all heard the news stated by Anet while at PAX that there will be a book series regarding events between eotn and gw2, anet won't leak anything, the publisher won't leak, google can't find it. However, looking here I did find as much information that is possible atm. I shop at Chapters for books, so if you looked on the sites of the store you use (search Guild Wars, not book titles, better chance of finding it) we may get more info.

Current info:
Title: Guild Wars: Fall of Ascalon
Pages: 352
Author/Publisher: Matt Forbeck/Simon & Schuster
Release date: April 1, 2010 almost 370 or so days from now
Price (here): $10.00can pre-order only atm

*edit new info: This has recently been found though it is highly speculative: Guild Wars: Nightfall by Matt Forbeck?

Here's the link for Guild Wars: Fall of Ascalon again. http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/...uild+wars%2527

edit: if you didn't know about the books before watch this: 3 years of Guild Wars (2 of 6) its within the first 2min.

*note: edit: I would not like to have to tolerate gw2 release date spam, pessimism, trashing, lying etc., I don't want a close for off-topic or immaturity/trolling

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Ugh... over a year to wait. Doubt I'll be getting it anyway.

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Im getting it on release day, when it comes that is

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I am quite excited... but....

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Release date: April 1, 2010

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Nice something to read while waiting between loading zones - if I will still be playing then

but that 1. April is suspicious

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what are these tv advertisements you mention in the title? it wasn't discussed in the post. do you have a link to an online version of the ad?

edit: unless your referring to the chuck placement...i thought you meant a commercial.

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Well Scythe I don't recall them ever saying when it would come out. It's just rumors thus far, correct? If it's all just rumors it's best to pay attention to them, but give them no merit, since a rumor is just that.

EDIT: Sorry you meant the book.

IMO new info in April would be nice, but I'm not getting my hopes up because none of us can really know when it's coming out. However, if some of the people that post here have honestly played it and weren't simply lying to us all I'd say it won't be too long. I'm more fearful of the changes to the game design than the release date of it. I wish Anet would just cave and tell us something we don't know already! However, they have their own plans and it's foolish to mock them when we can't see things the way they do, after all, they are the ones developing it. Time will tell though, it always does.

The book also seems interesting. I'm not much of a book reader, but if it's based on a video game I like then it's probably something I'll tolerate reading. Perhaps they will hide GW2 information inside the book? It's not uncommon for games to have books that leak a tiny bit of info about an upcoming sequel. On the bright side of it all, even if it doesn't give us any actual new info about GW2, it's likely that we'll learn a lot about what's going on in the world of Tyria. It's looking grim for the humans, that much is for sure, and the dragons aren't waking up just to say hello. The Sylvari are still a curious subject, since all we have is a quest and some concept art regarding them.

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Chuck ad placement does not count as an advert.

The longer GW2 remains vaporware, the lesser the chance more GW media will come out.

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The April 1st release date is likely just a placeholder, guys. That's very common, in fact. It just means that they hope to have it release sometime around that time of the year.

I see that sort of thing constantly with video games - if something has a 'release' date of the first or last day of the month, then it's just a placeholder date and isn't the actual date. It's probably the same with books.

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Who the heck is Matt Forebeck? I consider myself an avid scifi/fantasy reader and have never heard of him. Though I don't have high hopes for the book series, I hope this is just a joke. Anet can pick a far better writer.

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^http://www.forbeck.com/about-matt-forbeck/

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I’m also getting into Guild Wars these days. The fact that my friends Jeff Grubb (also an Alliterate), Will McDermott, and Ree Soesbee handle a lot of the writing for it helps.

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I might get it, it would be a great collectors item. We all know those who don't get it will be able to read it on wiki of in .pdf format

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Hope its a picture book lol, I wanna see some crazy artwork.

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1 yr(+?)...for a book?!?!

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*note: I will not tolerate gw2 release date spam, pessimism, trashing, lying etc., I don't want a close for off-topic or immaturity/trolling
Kinda bossy. Since your not a mod, you will tolerate it.

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Well we have a title, so we now know what the first book is about. Like Verene said, that date is probably place holder so there's no telling when it'll really be released, other than sooner than April 1st 09.

I just hope play.com has the book when that comes, that's the only place where I make online shopping. I really wanna have all the GW2 related stuff, and that book is covering what's for me the most interesting side of the GW2 lore, the human and charr conflict and the ultimate defeat of Ascalon

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I can wait, already got half a douzen I'm waiting to buy/read....but this should be interesting once it actualy gets here.

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This is pretty cool information. Bit small of a book (sorry I'm a 700+ page kind of reader). Nice to have the title and author. I'll have to look through some of his other books. Thanks for finding this Obrien XP.

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The April 1st release date is likely just a placeholder, guys. That's very common, in fact. It just means that they hope to have it release sometime around that time of the year.
Placeholders are very common in books, unless it turns out like Brisignr and takes another year (Eragon series, they were bland and cheesy imo, your experience may differ). Usually they are within the mentioned month, if they're on the 1st, if they're at the latter end then next month most likely.

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Kinda bossy. Since your not a mod, you will tolerate it.
As long as there is not a close, I will.

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I really wanna have all the GW2 related stuff, and that book is covering what's for me the most interesting side of the GW2 lore, the human and charr conflict and the ultimate defeat of Ascalon
This is not exactly gw2, nor is it gw1, it is post-eotn, pre-gw2. (there is a 250 year time lapse, the books cover it)

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This is pretty cool information. Bit small of a book (sorry I'm a 700+ page kind of reader). Nice to have the title and author. I'll have to look through some of his other books. Thanks for finding this Obrien XP.
yw
I would like it longer also, but when you look at what it takes for that long, and how all the halo books were only 500 pages but well done, and its in a series so, should be good.

It seems that no-one watched the 3 years of gw at PAX on youtube, I'll edit first post and link there.

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This is not exactly gw2, nor is it gw1, it is post-eotn, pre-gw2. (there is a 250 year time lapse, the books cover it)
I know, could have been more clear but I refered to it like that since it's tied directly to GW2 and I want to have anything GW2 related. Really looking forward for the game and anything I can get my hands (especially these books since I'm a lore fan) on I will.

Question though, what did you mean with TV ads since there aren't any?

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Question though, what did you mean with TV ads since there aren't any?
Sorry if you misunderstood ads, product placement is a form of advertisement.
Yes it was the "Chuck" scene, click link if needed (at top of 1st post).

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1 yr(+?)...for a book?!?!

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What, do you think that books write themselves overnight?

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Hope its a picture book lol, I wanna see some crazy artwork.
all i can say though please note that some of the art was for Guild Wars: Utopia aka the lost campaign. (it was scrapped in favor of eotn, this is where all the "chronomage" stuff came from, also this Aztec and Magic themed campaign did become the Asurans in eotn).

this is all the gw:utopia i could find, was removed from full wiki

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interesting... i would like to point out for the lol that most of the books that the Author has written at least from the small search i did on him via that site(the one the op posted) were about dragons.... what do we know about guild wars 2 DRAGONS....

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1 yr(+?)...for a book?!?!

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There are plenty of fans of various authors that would be overjoyed if the authors in question took only a year to complete a book.

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Personally, lore got very bland after NF. I mean defeating a god, even a fallen one...how can dragons be any kind of a big deal? Let alone that weak "Great" Destroyer...

We know what happens with Ascalon, the same crap that happened ever since the Searing. The title indicates that all the book will be about is exactly how the charr completely overrun Ascalon (still don't get why they're so hell-bent on that after the titans are defeated), include that last stronghold of humans I forget the name of, and offer some GW2 lore tease.

More significantly, the books are scheduled to come out before GW2 release. Easy to suppose that somewhere around end of '10 we might start to see GW2 stuff, to give time for the books to get publicity and get read.

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According to the information we have about GW2, Ebonhawke is still holding out then. I'm guessing ANet wants to have another Factions-style conflict zone.

As for the Charr continuing to attack - from Ecology of the Charr, the Charr worshipped the Titans because they wanted to destroy Ascalon rather than wanting to destroy Ascalon because they worshipped the Titans. That they no longer worship the Titans doesn't change the fact that they hate humanity and want what they see as their land back.

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Not as excited, but I'll get the first one for sure, just to see if they are good.

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1 yr(+?)...for a book?!?!

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Well, look at it from a writer's perspective. Remember, the whole world does not play Guild Wars. For all we know, this author may have been approached and probably knows nothing about the series. I write as a hobby and I will tell you that writing a book is not like writing a report. When someone is asked to write a story steming from an existing story line when they have no previous knowledge of the game/movie/series/etc, it takes a LONG time to understand the land and characters. Although there will probably none of the original characters from the game will be main characters, the author still needs to know what these people did and if he refers back to them, he has to get things right. This writer is taking up a huge task since the author has to write for a fan base a couple million and one slip up can cause a ton of controversy from the fans.

So one year is actually very reasonable for a writer who is writing a book which will take place between the games. Remember, he has to be in constant contact with the creators of GW 2 so that everything leads up to where it needs to go.

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I'm not thrilled about the idea of GW literature, even if it does reveal all sorts of tasty plot points for GW2. As we've already seen, the writing for Guild Wars (and what little we have seen of GW2) is not exactly worth spending extended periods delving into. It remains to be seen how good any books relating to the game world will be, but I'm not going to hold out hopes for anything of even Forgotten Realms quality.
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No. Please not this again.
If people can talk about the game coming out, other people can talk about it not coming out. If people can defend the lack of information on a game, other people can attack that same lack of information.

Discussions are boring and pointless when everybody is in agreement on everything.

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As long as this isn't confirmed by Anet it's fake to me.

'The Fall of Ascalon'? Everyone could've thought up that title. Pretty uninspiring to be honest.

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This is pretty cool information. Bit small of a book (sorry I'm a 700+ page kind of reader). Nice to have the title and author. I'll have to look through some of his other books. Thanks for finding this Obrien XP.
VERY small book for still having another year before release.

Those better be some excellent pages

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Its on Amazon too, I've already added it to my wish list.

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Well, look at it from a writer's perspective. Remember, the whole world does not play Guild Wars. For all we know, this author may have been approached and probably knows nothing about the series. I write as a hobby and I will tell you that writing a book is not like writing a report. When someone is asked to write a story steming from an existing story line when they have no previous knowledge of the game/movie/series/etc, it takes a LONG time to understand the land and characters. Although there will probably none of the original characters from the game will be main characters, the author still needs to know what these people did and if he refers back to them, he has to get things right. This writer is taking up a huge task since the author has to write for a fan base a couple million and one slip up can cause a ton of controversy from the fans.

So one year is actually very reasonable for a writer who is writing a book which will take place between the games. Remember, he has to be in constant contact with the creators of GW 2 so that everything leads up to where it needs to go.
Lets not forget they announced this book Aug 31st 2008

http://news.bigdownload.com/2008/08/...ies-announced/

According to that link.

This book will be 352 pages (if not a joke). I've read a lot of book around that size in pages and it took them 8 months to make. The book isn't that long...

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It quite possibly could be 352 pages of cat in the hat style reading as well.


LOL.

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It quite possibly could be 352 pages of cat in the hat style reading as well.


LOL.
Oh God yes.

Am I the only one that enjoyed reading the prequel in the manuals?

I guess you wouldn't call it a prequel, but that little short story at the beginning of Prophecies?

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Am I the only one that enjoyed reading the prequel in the manuals?

I guess you wouldn't call it a prequel, but that little short story at the beginning of Prophecies?
I really enjoyed reading them myself, can't wait for the first book to comes out either ^_^

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Oh God yes.

Am I the only one that enjoyed reading the prequel in the manuals?

I guess you wouldn't call it a prequel, but that little short story at the beginning of Prophecies?
You mean these? Got me all excited about GW.

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same here.

Last year, my friend had been playing gw for about a year, I was all into Age of Empires III, CIVilization IV, Empire Earth II, Rise of Nations (all of them are historically accurate (some more than others) RTS games). He showed me the manuals, for all but Nightfall (I didn't care about it at the time) and eotn (I started playing on explore eotn week, so it wasn't out yet).

I enjoy reading my game manuals front to back, I also enjoyed fantastical literature. I instantly was sucked in to Tyria.

I spent an hour or so (I'm pretty fast) reading all the lore that Arduinna mentioned in the link the next night.

Was at the game store a few months later, I had forgotten Gw, but I saw the case, I remembered the lore, I picked up the box (Prof: GotY), I was re-assured of its awesomeness, I had around $75 in gift cards (save them when people give them to you, its a nice boost when something new comes out). I bought it (2005 was the last good RTS year imo) so, seeing as 2007 (December) had no good new games for me, I was confident that this should be a nice addition to my games (my first CoRPG , My MMo bank consisted of the fact that I played Runescape for a month, and WoW for half an hour). I was so pleased with gw, I haven't played anything else for more than a week since. (I don't play 4 different games a week, I play one for a few weeks another later etc.).

Lore brought me into Gw, and these books will keep me here, and bring some new Lorisitive (lore+inquisitive, gotta love poetic liscense) people into gw.