RANT-Disappointment with Arena Net Yet Again

There are 2 things tht can be done to solve syncing in RA.

1) Remove the Glad Point award, or revert it back to 1 point per 10 wins. Keep the balt Faction reward as is though. This will reduce the sync to "0" if the Glad Point reward is completly removed, it will also kill the arena to empty, but increase the amount of TA players. Reverting it back to a 1 per 10 wins, should reduce the sync and repopulate TA, but it will not stop the syncing.

HOWEVER, this plan will NEVER be placed into effect. Back when the entire Glad Title was revamped it was done by the Devs for the expressed purpose of the Devs wanting their Glad 3 for the HoM and not having the time to earn it via TA, so they made doing it in RA easier.

2) Remove multiple Districts from RA. Make RA "International District" only. You map to RA and POW automatically in the International District with the option to change districts greyed out. Sure you need more than one district, so there may be up to 10ish at anygiven time of RA International Districts, or however many are needed to meet the player capacity. No empty districts, no syncing.

This would make finding an empty district to sync from impossible, sure the very last District of RA could be rather less full at any given time, but I doubt it would ever be completly empty enough to get off a perfect sync.

Players will say "But I lag when not in my home district" well tough shit, cause ya know each map you move to can move you to a different server depending on the amount of teams in your server. If you sync from an empty district, you will most likly move off that server to a populated one to face a team so who cares about districts.

Although I like choice 1 the best, as I will choose anything that could possibly bring back TA from the dead though it, sadly, will never happen. Choice 2 WOULD WITHOUT A DOUBT kill off syncing.

Please exclude RA from all discussion that relates to arenas. RA should have been kept as a practice arena or a build test arena against randomness; having a title track attached to that arena was a blunder that ANET never wanted to fix.

That said, SYNCing is one way to circumvent the leeching or botting issue in matches. If three of my friends get in a match in Quarry, you can bet your rear that you will be reported if you leech or BOT. Also, it provides us with a chance for somewhat organized play. **Not everyone is still into GvG or HA... not after 3+ years.**

anet should just record the times of every 'Enter battle', randomize and join

I stopped ready thread here. I sync with buddies that are all in different guilds and since you can do this you can never fix syncing.

Why is there another thread on this? They can't and won't fix it.

Oh, I understand the argument fine. I just think that the "it's supposed to be random and thus the random element should be enforced" is shoddy.

If pve guilds began syncing AB, I doubt there'd be the same shitstorm over it.

Solution: close RA. No more syncing, no more bitching.


I think its time that GW players recognize that this is a dead game, not just to most players, but to anet too. The occasional updated skill or question answered on a talk page cannot change that. Anet has moved on and only refuses to admit it for fear of losing its built in player base for GW2. That's no reason not to play if you want to play, just don't expect crap out of anet.

qft

/close please.

Not only that, but the WoW comparisons have started in this thread too...

/Close Please

One of the better posts in the history of this forum. Congrats.

How do you figure? It's supposedly a "random" arena. Seems to me then it ought to actually be random, or should maybe stop being claimed to be random.

I can see how it may be viewed as not a very important issue, but I think that's separate from the legitimacy of the complaint.

That never happened, you're just unaware of the concept of an illustrative example.

Oh! I like this guy!

Second on the close.

Maybe I'm still half asleep then, but a comparison is still a comparison...

But comparing to a game that was released four months before guild wars, which then, TWO YEARS LATER, nicked the Random Arena idea, but admittedly implemented it better is still a comparison

comparison (webster's): a comparing or being compared; estimation of similarities and differences
illustration (webster's):an example, story, analogy, etc. used to help explain or make something clear

As in: clarifying how a functional random grouping system (which was added in June 2005, so I have no idea what you mean by "2 years") works.

This is moot point and has nothing to do with the thread, so I'm done discussing it. Especially since, as I've already stated, it was merely an example and Guild Wars probably does not have the population to effectively use a similar method of grouping.

Creating something out of nothing. A guru trademark.

Why do people care about RA again?

Wall of text commence!!!!

Sounds like people didn't run into as much botting/leeching this past weekend as was expected, but did face an awful lot of sync presets. Guess I didn't miss much...

We know that synching is an issue and is a problem for players. It's not technically an exploit. The way the game was coded is that people who speak the same language will get matched up with each other before people who speak other languages. You all have perfectly valid concerns in that synching creates an un-enjoyable environment for people who aren't synching. This is a server problem, and before looking into ways to patch the issue, we want to examine the core problem. But at this moment there is no time on the Server Team's schedule for this. They're really busy with GW2. We would like to fix the issue, and we are looking into the feasibility of this. Just because we say that we're not able to fix it _right now_, doesn't mean we don't know and understand that players are concerned about it, and it doesn't mean we don't want to address it.

Thanks Regina!

Guys, out of my way, time to sync another 10 points.

Regina, I don't know when the interview mentioned in the OP was made, but the wording in French clearly states (about "sync join"):

nous n'avons pas pour l'instant l'intention de faire quoi que ce soit

we have for the moment no intention to do anything (about it)

I think I read the opposite (can't remember from whom) and this interview seemed to me (and the OP) as a U-turn on the topic. Apparently your post indicates it's not. Hope the Server Team can spend some time on this issue in the not too distant future.

As said above, this facilitates glad points farming at the expense of newer players learning "part of the basics" of PvP.

Copy and paste.

I'm pretty sure Gaile made the exact same post 2-3 years ago (minus the GW2 part). I would dig it up but I don't have time atm.

Chances are, the way the system is setup it would take a massive overhaul to get rid of syncing.

Doubt they'll ever do anything about it, if anything they'll take a lesson from it and not allow it to happen in GW2 (if its applicable to the PvP system in it).

First of all I agree with your first point. Just get rid of it, it used to be fun to screw around with builds to test them out, but now it's just stupid.

Second... A dead game is a game that's dead. Guild Wars is very much alive despite what all the people here generally say. I can go into any outpost and still find enough people to form an adequate group with, that seems pretty alive to me. Mind you Guild Wars "aint what she used to be" but is still a long ways away from dead.

I feel that syncing is wrong, it ruins the point of RA which is obviously the random aspect. Hey though! It's not against the rules so exploit it to your heart's content, if they aren't willing to change it then take advantage of it yourself. I hate to be "that guy" but it's the truth. If it's not going to get fixed, it's now part of the game. Enjoy!

It is a very old yet playable game, and some do play it. My point is from anet's perspective, it is dead. They're giving it the bare minimum support to make it seem as if they still care about it, but its quite obvious they are all about GW2 now. And that's not criticism, because I'd be working on my future revenue maker to the exclusion of my dead dog too if I was anet. I just think its time for some of the folks around here who are always dreaming about the next update, advocating the final solution to game balance, and trying to divine the deeper purpose of the HOM, to sit down and have a cup of coffee with Mr. Reality.

I condone syncing in RA. It helps me earn quick glad points without the frustration of having to scream RESMERESMERESMERESMERESMERESME to people who don't even know where they are.

Guild wars is pretty much dead and the players left over are either faithful to the game and good, or random younger siblings who got onto peoples accounts to stuff around.

If I see one more god damn fire storm warrior in my team I may just start hacking accounts and making them some proper builds myself.

MOX, and whatever is in this April update, are not "the bare minimum of support".

lol

As long as you're happy.

I agree!! I can't believe how many whiners are in this forum. You all complain about EVERYTHING. If you're all such experts at how games "Should" be designed, there's nothing stopping you from submitting your resume to Anet so that you can show them "How it's done". If the game annoys you that much, just don't play it. It's that simple. If the "game is dead" as I keep hearing from certain people in here, then why come participate in this forum?

I for one think it's a great game and I think Anet does a good job trying to address issues. You can't please everybody! You could'nt pay me enough to have Regina or some other Anet staff's job because of some of you people. And this is JUST 1 FANSITE! What about the European and Asian sites? If they bitch half as much as this place does then Anet needs to be commended for not just saying "screw you ingrates" and not fixing ANYTHING. I play for fun not as some way to make myself feel all powerfull by pwning n00bs. It's not the game that needs to be changed, it's your entitlement attitudes. IT'S A FREAKING GAME!! Please try to keep it in perspective.

I am putting on my helmet and taking cover.

HA best post ever!

Mod up +5

I hate these kinds of posts so its time to pick it apart.

And you are complaining about the complainers.

I don't want to work for Anet. I am speaking about problems of the game from a player perspective (which they need).

I don't anymore and neither does anybody else I know for the same reasons.

For fun? There are a ton of people that post here and don't play the game anymore. They have a good time making fun of the people who say the game isn't dead.

You clearly haven't been playing this game very long. If you have you clearly ignore the facts.

They are probably thinking that, but they can't say it or nobody would buy GW2. Same reason they aren't saying GW1 is all but dead in their eyes.

And this is a forum where people come to talk about problems with the game. Please try to keep it in perspective.

Ditto...

Ironic isn't it? haha I'll give you that one..(none of this is personal BTW..but if I struck a nerve with you then you MAY be the type I'm talking about)

Of course you don't want to work for Anet! Who would with people like what I've seen here bitching so much all the time? I understand they need feedback, and they have received plenty of constructive criticism that I think they make an honest effort to address. When you see people bitching constantly and doing nothing but spouting off about how Anet sucks and doesn't give a shit because they won't fix the problem that THEY think is the most important, it gets kind of rediculous. But I'll admit it IS entertaining that people get so riled up about it. (and before you say I'm taking it that seriously, I'm playing devil's advocate right now..it's giving me a giggle fit as I write this.)

It's a vocal minority that thinks everything is hosed. I would imagine that Anet (just like every other software development house) fixes the most pressing issues first, and things that ACTUALLY break the game, not things that are just Annoying..ALL software development houses do that. I'm sure that with the money WoW gets every month they can afford a betallion of programmers to fix every little thing, but I doubt Anet has that luxury..but they're also not charging me every month to play a game I already paid for...

So if you don't play the game (or anyone else you know) anymore, how would YOU know what's broken? Oh ya..that's right..from this forum..where apparently only negative comments about the game are allowed.

And those of us that DO play the game have a good time making fun of the whiners and crybabies who say it IS dead. Again.. if this ton of people that post here don't play the game anymore, how would they know it's dead? I haven't found that to be the case at all.



You don't play the game AT ALL.. so how would you know what the FACTS are? Oh I know.. all the people you know.. who also don't play the game, told you in this forum right?

You're probably right that they're thinking it.. but I'm sure plenty will buy GW2 regardless...

Committing fewer resources to a previous version is a lot different from saying a game is dead (i.E. Not supported anymore)

I thought it was a forum that people came to DISCUSS the game and was about more than just bitching about it and proclaiming how dead it is. I came here to maybe get some pointers and learn how to play the game better. Maybe I was wrong to think I'd get that here..wouldn't be the first time and damn sure won't be the last.

Anyway...i'm done now... so you can have the last word. Again, nothing was personal and please accept my appologies if my tone was a bit harsh at times. Take it easy DreamWind...flame away.

You do know that elite forums have a ratio of Anet praise posts to Anet criticism posts of about 10:1. What if I went into every praise post and complained that there are too many carebears? Annoying wouldn't it? The criticism posts are what make this forum worthwhile...if it was all praise posts it would be worthless.

You would be only half right. Just ask oldschool PvP players if Anet fixed the most pressing issues first and you'll get a resounding NO.

I don't play it seriously. I still keep up with the game enough to know the changes made to it, and none of them have given me the urge to come back.

We aren't talking about whether or not the game is dead to you...we are talking about the game being dead as a multiplayer game, dead compared to its former self, and dead in terms of community population. You can have fun playing a dying game though and that is fine with me.

Because I played it nonstop for 3 years. If you didn't then you wouldn't know what did or didn't happen.

There isn't enough resources to fix the "pressing issues" anymore. The only things that will be addressed are the minor ones...hence the reason people wanting changes such as the ones in this thread are wasting their time.

Again...10:1. Please see above.

I don't flame. I simply come in here to expose the truth.

So you are just a troll plain and simple. The game may be dead to you, but to many it isn't. If you don't play anymore, anything you post should be taken from that perspective. Your great walls of text aren't even worth papering a wall with if you really just post to make fun of people.

Please explain to me how I'm a troll. I simply responded to another post and remained on topic...Anet has no intention of touching the topic of this thread.

It doesn't have to be dead to any one individual to be a dead game.

That isn't my reason for posting...hell I posted mostly the same stuff when I still played. I simply respond to the people who make ridiculous posts.

Ridiculous is all relative. Someone may look at your posts and say they are ridiculous, that doesn't make them so, it's just opinion.

"For fun? There are a ton of people that post here and don't play the game anymore. They have a good time making fun of the people who say the game isn't dead."

Do you include yourself with these people? One could construe that from the wording that you do. To me if you come to the forum to make fun of people you are a troll.

"I don't flame. I simply come in here to expose the truth."

This one made me LOL.

Here's a revolutionary, amazing concept that not a lot of people seem to know about. I'm not quite sure if i should share this concept, it might.. be too amazing.

Alright, I'll share it.

Stop crying and play the game.

You know damn well that ain't gonna happen. People complain about the smallest things and blow them out of proportion. It doesn't take much either. All it takes is for someone to start a QQ topic.

wtb QQ thread closer please >_<

Why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO is this thread still open?

Oh I know it won't happen, people are too much of cry babies and want their way with everything.

Crybabies are why the following things happened in GW:

1. Dishonor System
2. /Report Feature (scamming was added to the report feature too.. i thought anet said once the person at fault when a scam occured the person who got scammed?)
3. PvP/PvE skill versions + constant balances
4. Good elites got messed up
5. Theres more i just can't think because I'm drawing blanks.. (havent played in a while)