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Originally Posted by SmithyBen
I know of atleast one person with both
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Grandmaster Treasure Hunter > GWAMM
Dronte
cognophile
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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
Legendary Defender of Ascalon: The ultimate in PvE Grinding - even before you get to the point where you're death leveling, you've got to do a boatload of charr farming to hit 16.
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Anon-e-mouse
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Originally Posted by Proff
I'm glad you see title buying the same as gold buying, but really... how hard is it to find someone to go on your account and get it for you? While you pay them, or buy an account that already has it. All it is is grind, and that's always for sale.
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LDoA is not a title that can be done by your friend over a weekend, not even every day for a week, or even every day for a month.
And very good luck in finding an account for sale that has LDoA on it, number 1 it's against A-nets TOS, 2) you won't find many (if any) accounts for sale.
Anon-e-mouse
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Originally Posted by Dronte
It can be done without any exploits, why do you think he got banned?
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There was another bug that involved a quest reward and having a full inventory, both these have now been fixed and are no longer exploitable.
TheodenKing
BenjZee
Thanks for the site, i personally have been using guild wars tracker site. Thanks for the info
The thing is most GWAMMs dont have that site too
The thing is most GWAMMs dont have that site too
Catchphrase
It will be interesting to see a Legendary Champion / Gladiator one day.
Proff
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Originally Posted by Anon-e-mouse
I **NEVER** SAID ANYTHING ABOUT TITLE BUYING = GOLD BUYING, please DO NOT put words in my mouth I didn't say.
LDoA is not a title that can be done by your friend over a weekend, not even every day for a week, or even every day for a month. And very good luck in finding an account for sale that has LDoA on it, number 1 it's against A-nets TOS, 2) you won't find many (if any) accounts for sale. |
Crawford Team Captain
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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito
Legendary Hero > Grandmaster Treasure Hunter
HA these days = grind |
BenjZee
No it was a quest bug where if you had a full inventory and not enough room for quest reward then u got the xp still....like i sed, i dunno if he was banned..i think they let him go
cataphract
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Originally Posted by Longasc
The funny thing is, most GWAMM's are also Grandmaster Treasure Hunters. At least according to the statistics of the Gods listed on this page:
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TH was the last title my monk needed for GWAMM. I managed to max it with four months of 90 chests a day. Worst grind ever, but conversations on Vent and Skype helped kill the boredom. Ele got GWAMM by maxing Lucky, Wisdom and Kurzick. I spiked all three titles but Wisdom failed to show up. Guess the Attention-wh0re Force wasn't strong enough in me. QQ
Coraline Jones
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Originally Posted by Proff
I'm saying title buying doesn't have to be paying a certain amount for xx points/missions/whatever, it can be paying someone to play for the 800 some hours needed to get the title. Since it's obviously not going to be cheap the service isn't offered and not a lot of people are willing to pay however much someone would want for an account with ldoa on it. Doesn't mean it can't or hasn't happened and as for the TOS, it doesn't seem to be doing much good with gold selling.
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To get a LDoA title, you have to be in control over the character, and it is pretty much done solo.
So in other words, what you're suggesting is that people are going to voluntarily give out their account information (i.e., login ID and password) to a stranger, because nothing bad could possibly happen with that arrangement. What else are you going to suggest? When you run out of storage space, you can pay a stranger to hold your stacks of ecto for you?
imnotyourmother
LDoA is DOPE Dude.
My war is lvl 18 and 74% of the way to the next level and I have died over 75,000 times.
My war is lvl 18 and 74% of the way to the next level and I have died over 75,000 times.
Kaitoa
IMHO Unlucky is is awhole lot difficult than GTH. To summarise wiki even with lucky weekends and nine rings the order of completion for these titiles would be GTH then Lucky then Unlucky.
Darkhorse
Having spent too much time in PvE, the title that I can respect is Champion. Those guys know so much more about the game than I do.
makosi
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Originally Posted by Darkhorse
Having spent too much time in PvE, the title that I can respect is Champion. Those guys know so much more about the game than I do.
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Archress Shayleigh
Besides, GMTH can't be greater then GWAMM because if you have GWAMM most chances are that you also have GMTH...
Ate of DK
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Originally Posted by Archress Shayleigh
Besides, GMTH can't be greater then GWAMM because if you have GWAMM most chances are that you also have GMTH...
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BenjZee
That is why i ponder the point of this topic again ^^
Proff
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Originally Posted by Coraline Jones
It doesn't matter if the method used for payment is with legal in-game gold or illegal real-world money.
To get a LDoA title, you have to be in control over the character, and it is pretty much done solo. So in other words, what you're suggesting is that people are going to voluntarily give out their account information (i.e., login ID and password) to a stranger, because nothing bad could possibly happen with that arrangement. What else are you going to suggest? When you run out of storage space, you can pay a stranger to hold your stacks of ecto for you? |
With so many people already having several accounts and being able to get another one for 10$ I can't see how it's a problem. Worst thing that could happen is your toons are deleted, you cant lose your account cause the password can be easily changed and it's a risk people would be willing to take just like the risk of being banned and losing your ecto stacks from buying gold.
In the end GWAMM takes 1600+ hours to get while LDoA takes 700-900 hours most of which is afk, they're both grind and neither requires "skill" and honestly how can you respect something that all you really have to do is follow a simple guide to accomplish.
D A R K S O I F O N
I am tryin to get that title for my warrior and am half way of gettin ldoa title and got me thinking about gwamm title. Does anyone know in what order you would need to do it in to max that title in like saying within 6 months?
Nanood
Getting GWAMM is one of the best things in GW. Since getting gwamm a couple of days ago I no longer think about chasing titles during the day or at night. Honestly it has given me the freedom to do other things without creeping into my mind about what dungeon I have to do or what area needs to be vanquished. No other title gave me this much free time and a clear mind to enjoy it. Thank you GWAMM you have made GW into what it's supposed to be for me... A game, not an insidious parasite.
Martin Alvito
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Originally Posted by rbcrawford10
you know theres only 2 of these ever right? and Legendary Champion>Legendary Hero. No doubt. Legendary Gladiator might even be harder to reach than legendary hero. IMO
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My thesis: all HA matches these days are grind. (Try it and see.)
Legendary Champion (acquired legitimately) would involve playing some interesting matches, at least. Requires less dedication because it's less excruciatingly boring.
You could make a case that Gladiator is the ultimate in PvP grind. Win streaks in TA = dull.
Longasc
The idea that I have to "work" for an achievement and often have to do an often extreme amount of repetitive actions somehow makes me sick.
Many other games adopted the "achievement/titles" idea, and in the end it is nothing else than what we once simply called GRIND - just in disguise.
People love to hunt for titles, even if they are beyond ridiculous. Just take the odd gameplay that is involved in getting Legendary Defender of Ascalon, it is time consuming death-levelling.
Guild Wars was once marketed as fee-free and grind free online gaming.
But the supposed "endgame" of title hunting is actually the worst grind I have experienced so far. Maybe except levelling in some hardcore Asia grinders.
I would wish for some more exciting ways to keep players playing Guild Wars. Bored players will move on to other games, as I did.
I was grinding titles till I really loathed (!) my once so beloved Guild Wars.
The idea that that value of a title is measured by the amount of "work"/"grind" invested in it shows me how sick this system is.
Many other games adopted the "achievement/titles" idea, and in the end it is nothing else than what we once simply called GRIND - just in disguise.
People love to hunt for titles, even if they are beyond ridiculous. Just take the odd gameplay that is involved in getting Legendary Defender of Ascalon, it is time consuming death-levelling.
Guild Wars was once marketed as fee-free and grind free online gaming.
But the supposed "endgame" of title hunting is actually the worst grind I have experienced so far. Maybe except levelling in some hardcore Asia grinders.
I would wish for some more exciting ways to keep players playing Guild Wars. Bored players will move on to other games, as I did.
I was grinding titles till I really loathed (!) my once so beloved Guild Wars.
The idea that that value of a title is measured by the amount of "work"/"grind" invested in it shows me how sick this system is.
Dronte
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Originally Posted by Anon-e-mouse
LDoA and Survivor on the same toon can't be done without breaking A-net's TOS. When it was first introduced, there were a couple of exploits including the Guild Hall glitch, that allowed some tomes into pre. A-net has said anyone found with items or skills that shouldn't be in pre will be asked to delete the items or move to post.
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Cab Tastic
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Originally Posted by Proff
In the end GWAMM takes 1600+ hours to get while LDoA takes 700-900 hours most of which is afk, they're both grind and neither requires "skill" and honestly how can you respect something that all you really have to do is follow a simple guide to accomplish. |
fb2000
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Originally Posted by Martin Alvito
My thesis: all HA matches these days are grind. (Try it and see.)
Legendary Champion (acquired legitimately) would involve playing some interesting matches, at least. Requires less dedication because it's less excruciatingly boring. You could make a case that Gladiator is the ultimate in PvP grind. Win streaks in TA = dull. |
I've always found TA a lot better than that. Dont know how stuff are now, I cba to zone to the PvP island at all, but it used to be the better of the PVP options before
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Originally Posted by Nanood
Getting GWAMM is one of the best things in GW. Since getting gwamm a couple of days ago I no longer think about chasing titles during the day or at night. Honestly it has given me the freedom to do other things without creeping into my mind about what dungeon I have to do or what area needs to be vanquished. No other title gave me this much free time and a clear mind to enjoy it. Thank you GWAMM you have made GW into what it's supposed to be for me... A game, not an insidious parasite.
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. I feel pretty good with no maxed titles whatsoever
maverickthewolf
The greater title for PvE is GWAMM
Grandmaster Treasure Hunter is just cash to buy keys and do runs all the time.
Legendary Defender of Ascalon is kinda insane, a stupid thing to do and "worth" less than GWAMM
Grandmaster Treasure Hunter is just cash to buy keys and do runs all the time.
Legendary Defender of Ascalon is kinda insane, a stupid thing to do and "worth" less than GWAMM
Martin Alvito
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Originally Posted by fb2000
When was HA not a grind??
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Once the meta became blood spike and IWAY, it was grind until Factions hit. There was some diversity in builds and play for a while, but Nightfall and 6v6 killed it dead. Restoring 8v8 was somewhat helpful, but the additional win methods in Halls turned out to be a terrible idea because they limit build flexibility tremendously.
maverickthewolf
Lol, Grandmaster Treasure Hunter is just a title that don't worth the work.
Run chests over and over it's kinda a boring and stupid thing.
If you say "Grandmaster Treasure Hunter worth more" it's kinda strange... maybe a bit jealous.
I got GWAMM and Grandmaster Treasure Hunter, and I prefer display GWAMM, no doubts.
Run chests over and over it's kinda a boring and stupid thing.
If you say "Grandmaster Treasure Hunter worth more" it's kinda strange... maybe a bit jealous.
I got GWAMM and Grandmaster Treasure Hunter, and I prefer display GWAMM, no doubts.
Anon-e-mouse
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Originally Posted by Dronte
It can be done with 2 accounts, one death leveling and the other one killing the levelled foes. At least thats what my mate told me a while back, he was using this method.
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the one doing the DL'ing WILL NOT rez, until either rez'd by the other player, or until the other player dies. And as the ONLY rez in pre is the rez sig, you have a MAXIMUM 5 rez's before you can no longer rez again (assuming you can solo the bosses without dying just to recharge the sig.
Trust me 5 rez's is not enough to get *1* charr from lvl 8 to 9.
Kronos Ledaloth
disagree. I maxed that title and required me about 2-3 months of gameplay. There's lot of titles like LDoA, Kurzick, Luxon that are slower than treasure to max
Wrath of m0o
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Originally Posted by saloking
the best of the best would be to get LDoA and the survivor title, there is no more 1337 title combo than that now is there? :P
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without Survivor
without Defender
without Drunkard
Savior of Luxons + Savior Kurzick
FTW
Best Easter present i ever got.
Currently working on wisdom and treasure to make gwamm#2 a little cheaper by scrapping Party and Sweet.
But i cant see going for Treasure Hunter 1st because it will cost alot more.
You need a good start on Lucky Title and Treasure Hunter to efficiently farm this title.
cthulhu reborn
I think the GWAMM idea was not a bad idea as such but in the end they way it has been implemented in the game leaves a thing or two to be desired.
If you look at the type of titles, they can be classed in 3 different categories: PvE, PvP and money sink titles (drunkard, party animal etc). Some could be considered cross over titles like the Kurzick/Luxon titles which could count for PvE and PvP and treasure hunter could be seen as a PvE/money sink cross over.
To me it is unfortunate that these 3 categories themselves do not have a title track of themselves.
In the end, I would think that most people are not fans of all 3 categories and a lot of people get titles they don't really care about, other than the extra point on this title track.
Personally I am at 17 titles maxed and 6 in the pipeline with my main character and they all fall under at least the PvE category. I am not interested in maxing out PvP or the money sink titles so I will never reach max tier. And well, I wish there was a way I could show, that I completed a lot or all of the PvE titles. I can imagine someone being interested in being a PvP god, but can't because the GWAMM title track doesn't specify any of that. Or someone wanting to show off their "If I were a rich man" title because they opened every high end chest known to man and being drunk most of their in-game lives.
To the OP...it does take a lot of dedication, or grind mentality to get the treasure hunter title maxed, but it doesn't require any skill to buy a key and open a chest, so by that measure, it is impressive that you opened that many chests but it doesn't mean anything more than that to me.
If you look at the type of titles, they can be classed in 3 different categories: PvE, PvP and money sink titles (drunkard, party animal etc). Some could be considered cross over titles like the Kurzick/Luxon titles which could count for PvE and PvP and treasure hunter could be seen as a PvE/money sink cross over.
To me it is unfortunate that these 3 categories themselves do not have a title track of themselves.
In the end, I would think that most people are not fans of all 3 categories and a lot of people get titles they don't really care about, other than the extra point on this title track.
Personally I am at 17 titles maxed and 6 in the pipeline with my main character and they all fall under at least the PvE category. I am not interested in maxing out PvP or the money sink titles so I will never reach max tier. And well, I wish there was a way I could show, that I completed a lot or all of the PvE titles. I can imagine someone being interested in being a PvP god, but can't because the GWAMM title track doesn't specify any of that. Or someone wanting to show off their "If I were a rich man" title because they opened every high end chest known to man and being drunk most of their in-game lives.
To the OP...it does take a lot of dedication, or grind mentality to get the treasure hunter title maxed, but it doesn't require any skill to buy a key and open a chest, so by that measure, it is impressive that you opened that many chests but it doesn't mean anything more than that to me.
Nemo the Capitalist
Legendary No Lifer
wasted 10,000 hours on guild wars
Should be a new title and OP might get it
get laid man! stop playing those games
wasted 10,000 hours on guild wars
Should be a new title and OP might get it
get laid man! stop playing those games