Guild Wars 4th Aniversary

Nathaniel (Was 'ere)

Nathaniel (Was 'ere)

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2009

A/

Typical.. I got bored of my Ranger and only enjoyed playing with a pet, so now that I delled him they make a zoo. I seriously think Eles and Rangers are boring nowadays but I love playing with a pet. Before I delled him I wanted a zoo. *Sigh*.
I'll definitely enjoy the Z-quests though, maybe they'll give Zaishen rep so we won't have to spend mills on keys (PL0X) XD.
Yeah, I seriously doubt that, myself, but here's hopin'.

zwei2stein

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by revelation View Post
Zaishen Quests are brilliant idea if you think about it. It will bring a lot of players to one location doing the same thing, and it will bring back teaming up. I think it will be a great experience to play with other players again, like in good old times
We shall see. I am afraid it will only really encourage runner/runee teamups.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Empress Amarox View Post
What fightens me, is I think it will be "buy x ammount of our stuff in the online store between a & b and get a FREE pane in XS" and that's just poo.
Bingo!

Mark my words, it's gonna be more or less like this:

"Buy 4 storage tabs + menegerie unlock and get an extra storage tab for free!" And yes it's gonna cost 50$. Ok wait maybe 49.95$.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cacheelma View Post
Bingo!

Mark my words, it's gonna be more or less like this:

"Buy 4 storage tabs + menegerie unlock and get an extra storage tab for free!" And yes it's gonna cost 50$. Ok wait maybe 49.95$.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Linsey
I believe the promotion will not require you to spend any money, but I am unclear on that point. That's marketing's deal so I'm not working on it much.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...urdock#Storage

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post
No offense to Linsey. But from what I've learned about Anet for the past 4 years, when Anet's spokeperson says "it's unclear" or "I think" or "I have a feeling" they tend to be WRONG.

And yes I'm a cynic when it comes to Anet. I guess I've been with them for too long (unlike most people here).

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by revelation View Post
Zaishen Quests are brilliant idea if you think about it. It will bring a lot of players to one location doing the same thing, and it will bring back teaming up. I think it will be a great experience to play with other players again, like in good old times
That's a point but then again will it matter? If you don't have the campaign then don't take the quest. i don't think its unfair that quest is made for another campaign and not your one. Hopefully they make it quite balanced and if they offered a nightfall quest today then they would offer a factions one later....
Its not like you ahve to wait long if you want another quest.

revelation

revelation

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmithyBen View Post
That's a point but then again will it matter? If you don't have the campaign then don't take the quest. i don't think its unfair that quest is made for another campaign and not your one. Hopefully they make it quite balanced and if they offered a nightfall quest today then they would offer a factions one later....
Its not like you ahve to wait long if you want another quest.
Almost everyone has all the campaigns anyways.. They are super cheap.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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Ty Arduinna for the link to Linsey's posts:


http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...urdock#Storage

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linsey
You pay for the convenience of not having to transfer between characters. Yes that is a total of 9 tabs + material storage. For now, the Equipment Pack won't be on the F9 screen and you will need to drag your weapons and armor over the bag and drop it to place it in the pack. Yes I know that sucks, but that is the way it needs to work for now because of the minimum resolution. If we decide to increase bag sizes (which we would like to do at some point) we will need to increase the minimum resolution available. That is one of the reasons we went with the Equipment Pack right now instead. Another is that a pack which restricts what can be put in it does save on data storage quite a bit. Once we have released these things and assessed their effect on the servers we can evaluate the need or ability to offer more storage upgrades in the future.
Quote:
Oops, sorry, it does let you put UNcustomized weapons in there too since shields and focii don't get customized and most casters don't customize their weapons either. So it is uncustomized weapons, and weapons/armor customized by the char storing it. It's allowing weapons customized to multiple different people that is one of the biggest problems with general storage. So just cutting that out alone allowed us to do the Equipment Pack and it was actually Mike O'Brien who suggested the idea in one of our big meetings on storage.

maverickthewolf

maverickthewolf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

Brazil

D/

mini kanaxai in a zoo?
wtf...

1 extra mule > 1 extra tab...

BrettM

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

Shields and foci don't get customized? Zehtuka's Horn and BMP offhands say hi.

Seriously, though, it looks like Linsey is saying that an equipment bag on a mule won't be able to store weapons/offhands/armor customized to other characters. That's a bit of a bummer. But, at least it will give my mules a place to put greens and loot weapons other than sticking them on heroes, so they'll be easier to find.

Fril Estelin

Fril Estelin

So Serious...

Join Date: Jan 2007

London

Nerfs Are [WHAK]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrettM View Post
Seriously, though, it looks like Linsey is saying that an equipment bag on a mule won't be able to store weapons/offhands/armor customized to other characters.
She says: "it does let you put UNcustomized weapons in there too" So it should be able to hold both.

Shemsu Anpw

Shemsu Anpw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2008

Sephirot - Keter

People need to lighten up.

Yes the bussiness model of GW is No Monthy Subscription Fee, but there have always been Purchasable Upgrades for the accounts at least the 2 years I have been playing. I have bought a character slot and the skill unlock packs for NF and Factions(specifically for my hero's skills) which meant less spending of in game gold for skills. While I have only recently (somewhat) registered on Guru I have to say I haven't seen so many people whine about a great game anywhere. I can only say that I am glad that Guru only represents a Small slice of the GW community and I hope the Devs understand that.

4 yr Vets will be getting new mini pets that they can sell at super inflated rates to get even more money for them selves. Yet this isn't enough for them. "Give me more" not even a please or thank you to what you have or what we are getting. Give me a break. We all bought the game a free to play online game, be thankful the game is of this quality for its type.

Buying additional accounts for Mules and Z-Keys. Be my guest. I would rather have the ability to have easily accessed storage then having to sift though 20 accounts to find what I want and transfer to another and jump through those hoops. And you who complain about GW economy and have lots of multiple accounts...what about all the Z-Key farming you are doing. You are only seeing things in your own perspective, you are also "contributing" to the economy.

Server space is limited so having to buy a page for more space by buying panes is fine cause it also helps pay for the people at GW to keep working on GW 1 and development for GW2. Be happy with the free tab on your character for weapons and armor, which is what most peole need the space for becaue of their different builds. And while it may seem that $10 is a bit high Anet may not have a say in that through the store, is there even an item less then that purchasable?

Sorrows Furnace as i understand it had the full GW team at the time working on it, not what 7 for the live team if that? I for one appreciate the WORK the team put into the update for Me and Everybody else even if others do not. Keep up the good work.

A month lull in skill updates is not a big deal. Hardcore PvPer's have complained on this but to be fair you do not pay for GW as much as the PvE community does...charater slots, expansions, skill unlocks for heros, and soon pet unlocks, and storage unlocks. And yes while some PvPers do PvE, the ones that "complain" the most seem to be those that don't PvE at all or say they don't cause PvE does not require skill. It's a month, less then that now before you proabably get your balances relax and chill please.

If you want constant free content go to WoW and pay $15 a month for server and content. I love that constant free content people say they put out. Content is Not Free, people work to put it out, respect them and their abilities or do it yourself.

I hope that wasn't too confusing. In Short appreciate what you get it may not come again.

Someone Close this Whine Fest Please.

Vote: /closethread

Siirius Black

Siirius Black

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Dragon's Lair

La Legion Del Dragon

E/

Shemsu, I think the problem that everyone is having is not the payment itself. We long ago decided to pay for the extra storage and some other features we wanted. The problem is basically return on investment.
I would not mind paying the $10.00 a tab if GW1 would continue, But we all know that once GW2 goes online everyone will move to GW2 and leave GW1. I purchased all 3 campains plus EOTN, My account has 13 character slots. I purchased the same for my son. And I believe that I made a good investment and I'm getting what I paid for.

BUt to pay for storage $10.00 when the game is going to end when GW2 does not seem too wise to invest. I think the problem is the $10.00 tag. I, at least would have purchased the extra tabs if the price was more reasonable like $5.00 to $7.00.

Don't take me wrong. I like this game and the work Anet has put on the changes. Its just that $10.00 is $3.00 more than what I'm willing to pay.

Faith Angelis

Faith Angelis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

UK

OMG WTF 10 DOLARZ FOR STORRAGE?!!

Seriously, people. Are you on benefits or something? Ten dollars is what. Seven pounds? That's a McDonalds, you realise that?

(Quick note for the 'just buy another account' people; not everyone is of a level of understanding to consider it even possible to run two GW clients at the same time, or has fifteen accounts, or gets enough ZKeys a month to revive the US economy. Yes, you do and I do, but my 60 year old dad doesn't and the grand majority of players don't. Honestly, most casual players don't even know what the monthly tournaments are. Convenience sells; ever wonder why they sell cigarettes in petrol stations?)

I'll pay for it, and a hell of a lot of people will right with me. So lets say the entire guru subscribership doesn't. Guess what, we represent a vanishingly small fraction of Guild Wars accounts. No one's going to care and frankly from some of the reactions on here its like the announcement was: All accounts will be given extra storage but will be restricted to the Battle Isles only until a $10 unlock fee is paid in the online store.

In short; you don't want to pay for it, don't pay for it. Pay for it later when you do want it. Don't ever pay for it. Spend the ten bucks on pantyhose and strut around your bedroom singing the greatest hits of Tina Turner into your hairbrush. Whatever. But Anet is a business, and besides the startup costs for each game they haven't charged us a penny in four years. Frankly, if Regina came on here and opened a topic saying Guild Wars was going to close down due to economic restraints unless enough people offered a voluntary ten dollar donation I'd be going for my wallet like a Raptor farmer hitting Shadow Form.

On the topic; menagerie, excellent. Zaishen quests; spot on, will go some way to gathering the remaining players in one place so we can actually co-op again. I dunno about you guys, but I've spent so long looking at three necro heroes I've started seeing them in the faces of my children and last night I called out Livia's name during sex.

Don't really mind about the HoM stuff, yeah I'm sure it'll please a lot of people but I've never really gone for virtual self-worship. Oh yeah, and somebody a few pages back asked incredulously who's going to bother collecting a load of virtual pets ... where the hell have you been since 1996?

Siirius Black

Siirius Black

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Dragon's Lair

La Legion Del Dragon

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faith Angelis View Post
On the topic; menagerie, excellent. Zaishen quests; spot on, will go some way to gathering the remaining players in one place so we can actually co-op again. I dunno about you guys, but I've spent so long looking at three necro heroes I've started seeing them in the faces of my children and last night I called out Livia's name during sex.
Ok That last part was really funny.

KIDGOOCH

KIDGOOCH

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

MD

R/Mo

HMMM, evidently, I not very smart, and my head hurts...
Are we getting free armor weapons storage and then the option to buy additional storage tabs? Or is this what we get after we pay the $10? The site doesn't really say

Grammar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

1. New Equipment Pack bag is a wonderful idea. Most people carry around multiple weapon sets, so it'll be nice to have an extra bag to hold all your weapon sets without having to use up half a regular storage bag. I wonder how this new bag will be acquired, and what, if anything, it will cost? They say "assorted sizes", so maybe there will be a smaller and larger equipment bag with different costs and/or acquisition methods?
Now if only we can get a 6th bag for books.....they can call it a Book Bag.

2. Purchasable storage panes for your storage chest is a good idea too, but $10 is too steep. I'd rather just buy an extra character slot for the same price. $5 seems more in line if you ask me. But the the free pane promo is definitely a win.

3. Zoo sounds like fun.

4. It sounds like the "new quests" aren't really new. They just give you new rewards for replaying old content (story missions and dungeons and such). Not necessarily a bad thing, but some brand new content would have been cool.

Faith Angelis

Faith Angelis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Siirius Black View Post
Ok That last part was really funny.
Thank you very much.

Grammar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by KIDGOOCH View Post
HMMM, evidently, I not very smart, and my head hurts...
Are we getting free armor weapons storage and then the option to buy additional storage tabs? Or is this what we get after we pay the $10? The site doesn't really say
As far as new storage goes, we're getting 2 separate things added to the game:

1. Every character gets a 5th bag slot for an equipment pack bag, which is used exclusively for holding weapons and armor. Nothing about cost or acquisition method is mentioned, but it does say there will be "assorted sizes" of these bags.

2. Each account will have the option of purchasing, for $10, additional storage panes in your storage chest (up to 4 additional panes per account). 1 free storage pane will be given as a reward in an upcoming, still to be announced, promotion. It is unclear whether this free storage pane counts against the the cap of 4 additional storage panes per account, but based on the exact verbiage used, I'm guessing that it will not.

Hope that clears it up for you.

Bug John

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

I always thought that GW pve quests lacked rewards, maybe zaishen quests will solve this problem.

We won't get any new content (new areas) for GW, so these quests are the best we could have wished for.

Miss H O T

Miss H O T

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Holland

Sword Of Justice [SOJ]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faith Angelis View Post
OMG WTF 10 DOLARZ FOR STORRAGE?!!

Seriously, people. Are you on benefits or something?
Highly likely some of us are, yes

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faith Angelis View Post
Ten dollars is what. Seven pounds? That's a McDonalds, you realise that?
...*clipped*...
where the hell have you been since 1996?
you are funny though

on topic:
I myself am pretty pleased with the new content, menagerie will probably be a bit of a downer IMO, cause i can't really see it adding anything to ingame fun, but that's just me.
Zaishen Challenges sound like fun, might be there will be more groups forming instead of everyone going H/H these days (its just so much more convenient, and so much less fun). Then again this sounds like running/farming material... will have to wait and see how it all goes.
New storage! WHUW! I like it, I love it.
People are complaining alot about having to pay for a SECOND additional slot (that is, IF you are there during the promotion for the free FIRST storage "hand-out", then again, it might not be so limited as they say it is).
anyways, i think not enough people have taken into consideration that these equipment packs will save most people loads and loads of storage space, i for one, will have almost half my slots back which are now filled up with all the stupid armor and weapons ive just become so attached to.

I think that what is on the site will not be the entire update. I really do expect a HoM update, which besides the new mini's and the storage is all i really cared about in the first place.

one last word: RESPECT to A-net for still supporting the game quite vividly instead of dropping it like a turd and going fullsteam with GW2.
ty

/HOT

Empress Amarox

Empress Amarox

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2008

Above you.

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faith Angelis View Post
OMG WTF 10 DOLARZ FOR STORRAGE?!!

Seriously, people. Are you on benefits or something? Ten dollars is what. Seven pounds? That's a McDonalds, you realise that?
Someone's getting ripped off...

Here they have something called the "dollar menu." :P

lol... $10 for McDonalds... You can get all you can eat at certain steak restaurants for that...

Or you could buy romaine lettuce, fix yourself salads for several weeks cheaper than that, and not look like the cow before it went to the steak joint (then again, you could fix yourself a nice salad at the steak place).

Ever go to one of those all-you-can-eat places? It makes me nervous! I sit there thinking any one of these people 3-5x my size could just snap and try to eat me at any given moment...

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

Pound saver menu isn't even a pound these days...
Depends what you order..... targetting that at americans with their super size no offence was meant

Anyone else really excited that this update...is very...very ...very soon

[email protected]

[email protected]

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2008

Holland

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein View Post
We shall see. I am afraid it will only really encourage runner/runee teamups.
im really afraid this will happen. LFR

Kushiels_Scion

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ohio

Dragon Warrriors

W/P

I think the sad thing is that people will buy these extra storage tabs, when they could just by another character slot for a mule that can hold much more than one panel of storage can. Quite funny. I wonder if Anet is gonna catch the ridiculousness of it and change it, doubtful.

Even so, Anet has done a wonderful job sticking with us and giving use new things that we have been needing, even with GW2 work hanging on their shoulders as well. So, we gotta hand it to em. They haven't left us hanging and, its not like they ever asked for a monthly fee.

Kushiels_Scion

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ohio

Dragon Warrriors

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shemsu Anpw View Post
People need to lighten up.

Yes the bussiness model of GW is No Monthy Subscription Fee, but there have always been Purchasable Upgrades for the accounts at least the 2 years I have been playing. I have bought a character slot and the skill unlock packs for NF and Factions(specifically for my hero's skills) which meant less spending of in game gold for skills. While I have only recently (somewhat) registered on Guru I have to say I haven't seen so many people whine about a great game anywhere. I can only say that I am glad that Guru only represents a Small slice of the GW community and I hope the Devs understand that.

4 yr Vets will be getting new mini pets that they can sell at super inflated rates to get even more money for them selves. Yet this isn't enough for them. "Give me more" not even a please or thank you to what you have or what we are getting. Give me a break. We all bought the game a free to play online game, be thankful the game is of this quality for its type.

Buying additional accounts for Mules and Z-Keys. Be my guest. I would rather have the ability to have easily accessed storage then having to sift though 20 accounts to find what I want and transfer to another and jump through those hoops. And you who complain about GW economy and have lots of multiple accounts...what about all the Z-Key farming you are doing. You are only seeing things in your own perspective, you are also "contributing" to the economy.

Server space is limited so having to buy a page for more space by buying panes is fine cause it also helps pay for the people at GW to keep working on GW 1 and development for GW2. Be happy with the free tab on your character for weapons and armor, which is what most peole need the space for becaue of their different builds. And while it may seem that $10 is a bit high Anet may not have a say in that through the store, is there even an item less then that purchasable?

Sorrows Furnace as i understand it had the full GW team at the time working on it, not what 7 for the live team if that? I for one appreciate the WORK the team put into the update for Me and Everybody else even if others do not. Keep up the good work.

A month lull in skill updates is not a big deal. Hardcore PvPer's have complained on this but to be fair you do not pay for GW as much as the PvE community does...charater slots, expansions, skill unlocks for heros, and soon pet unlocks, and storage unlocks. And yes while some PvPers do PvE, the ones that "complain" the most seem to be those that don't PvE at all or say they don't cause PvE does not require skill. It's a month, less then that now before you proabably get your balances relax and chill please.

If you want constant free content go to WoW and pay $15 a month for server and content. I love that constant free content people say they put out. Content is Not Free, people work to put it out, respect them and their abilities or do it yourself.

I hope that wasn't too confusing. In Short appreciate what you get it may not come again.

Someone Close this Whine Fest Please.

Vote: /closethread
Bravo and here here!

Grammar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

The problem isn't that they're charging for the extra storage tabs, it's that the cost-to-content ratio is way out of alignment with the cost-to-content ratio of additional character slots.

Specifically, they cost exactly the same (in the US at least).

So your paying the same price for the tabs as you are for the slots, but your only getting a tiny fraction of the content.

Raccoon

Raccoon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2007

Me/A

You people are even BAAWWWING in this thread about storage?

Christ it's like your life will end if you don't get that extra space to horde all your lame armor.

Kaitoa

Kaitoa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/

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Originally Posted by Raccoon View Post
You people are even BAAWWWING in this thread about storage?

Christ it's like your life will end if you don't get that extra space to horde all your lame armor.
Could not have said it any better.
Oh i didnt

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

am i the only who see this as more of a convenience thing? who the hell wants to hop across 5 mules to find their stack of cookies when they can just look for it in storage.

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

This thread is actually about the 4th aniversary celebration right? Well I'm looking forward to it to be honest.

Vehemence

Vehemence

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2008

Perth

[LOD]

W/

I hope the additional contents are good enough to be the reason for me come back to GW after 4 months break.

thelessa

thelessa

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Purple Puzycats

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by street peddler View Post
am i the only who see this as more of a convenience thing? who the hell wants to hop across 5 mules to find their stack of cookies when they can just look for it in storage.

You are not alone

I hate having to look at each mule and find that it is NOT where I thought it was. Of course having to look at every hero to make sure I didn't put it on one of them. The convenience of having it all in one place is very much on the plus side.

Also on the plus side is the fact you can now use said mules as chars. again

I am very much looking forward to this update, pet area, new storage for each char. for armor and weapons, new quests etc. Can't come soon enough for me!

Shemsu Anpw

Shemsu Anpw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2008

Sephirot - Keter

I am looking forward to the update and celebration. I've even started taming different pets through Elona to level pets and filling out my menagrie. Gave Dunk a Warthog...he so surly. The Equipment bag will unload my Inventories and Storage. I don't have tons of extra armor and weapon but, I do have enough to make them much appreciated. Not sure of the Z quests so we will see, it sounds like a great concept though. The rewards for the Z coins hopefully will be good, rewards to sweettooth, party, or drunk titles would be nice. Only thing I am concerned with is the promotion isn't even on the main web page yet and it's the 18th in the states only 5 more days left. Going to be a very limited timeframe for the promotion.

Nemesis of God

Nemesis of God

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

Finland

Azura Empire [AE]

Mo/E

SO what'' the minis?

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by street peddler View Post
am i the only who see this as more of a convenience thing? who the hell wants to hop across 5 mules to find their stack of cookies when they can just look for it in storage.

GWx2+guild hall button+ trade button+5 clicks = win.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

^^ I 'm with street peddler and yet i use gwx2....the difference is if you only want one account and your trading amongst characters.
on a lighter note please refrain from ruining the 4th anniv thread and use that awful boycotting one.