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Obrien Xp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2009

Canada

The First Dragon Slayers [FDS]

13 Apr 2009 at 20:42 - 1

These seem to have been overlooked while everyone is trolling about the storage slot prices. (I only fill 1.3 tabs anyway)

The equipment packs seem like a wonderful add-on, especially when I have two or three characters that are for farming and are still used on occasion to actually play the game (such as my raptor farming ele or my 55ss necro).

It can be annoying to have an entire set of armor sitting in my last bag with all the books that can't be put in a simple book bag

or all those quest rewards for the quartermasters

Now seeing as they vary in sizes there may be those that carry a simple main/off hand item set (such as a rack for your backpack with staves and swords or something like that) Whereas others may be big enough for a wardrobe of armors and an armory of weapons (vamp, zealous, poisonous, fiery, icy, etc.)

I'm thinking that these packs may only hold customized items.

Though I'm hoping that they can carry any weapon or armor. This way it can serve the bonus purpose of holding all those useless weapons that drop so I can use it like an added bag.

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

13 Apr 2009 at 21:38 - 2

The impression I'm getting from Linsey's page is that the equipment bags can hold any uncustomized weapon/offhand or any weapon/offhand/armor piece that has been customized to the character owning the bag.

This would mean, for example, that the equipment bag on a mule could hold uncustomized greens and loot weapons, but could not hold weapons or armor customized to another character. Any such customized gear would have to go in a regular storage slot.

Karuro

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Netherlands, Europe

Mystic Spiral [MYST]

W/

13 Apr 2009 at 21:46 - 3

Book bag isn't simple.
Linsey explained it sometime ago due all the variables, and that the pages act like items.
So then you get the item in an item in an item.. thing.

My warrior will be happy with the equip pack though.

Obrien Xp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2009

Canada

The First Dragon Slayers [FDS]

13 Apr 2009 at 21:58 - 4

Now, who's Linsey?

edit: Thank you for making me fully aware now

. I feel ashamed

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

13 Apr 2009 at 22:02 - 5

Linsey and Regina have different job posistions in Anet but they both can give information...

Boneyard Spleeneater

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Seattle

Immortal Corruptors [GWAR]

Me/N

13 Apr 2009 at 22:28 - 6

If it had about 12 slots (five armor and 8 wepons), it would be nice. that would take your four weapon slots and one extra set of armor out of the general inventory. That way you could have all your generally used weapons and your main armor, plus your most used farming armor on hand. Other stuff you could put in a different bag and mule/store. Depending on how it works out, it could be nice.

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

13 Apr 2009 at 23:40 - 7

Customization seems like the biggest PITA here - that's alot of storage wasted on unique identifiers. I'm surprised they couldn't extend this "only your own custom" system to so many other things, such as books, minipets, etc.

Wish Swiftdeath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/W

14 Apr 2009 at 00:47 - 8

If they are including shields as weapons then a 20 slot bag would be nice

MK_18

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

14 Apr 2009 at 06:48 - 9

Supposedly in the ingame chat they mentioned the bags will come in 5 to 20 slot sizes. A nice sized increase any way you look at it.

Callista Aurelia

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Bay Area, CA

Kitchen Pirates [CKIE]

E/

14 Apr 2009 at 07:34 - 10

This is the part of the update I am most excited about. My main character currently has 3 sets of armor and 8 weapons/offhands that she cycles though frequently, depending on what kind of build I'm running. She also has a headpiece for every elementalist attribute. I am so very excited I will finally have a place to put them that isn't hogging xunlai space. If I can get all the armor out of there, I'll only have to buy like one more pane. ;-)

Karuro

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Netherlands, Europe

Mystic Spiral [MYST]

W/

14 Apr 2009 at 09:12 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obrien Xp

Now, who's Linsey?

Regina/Anet?

She's the dev updating your GW1. That's who.

RupDur78

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2009

Rt/

14 Apr 2009 at 10:18 - 12

the thing im not looking forward to is how we will be able to get them my feeling which is sickening is that they will be drops and the 20 item slot bags will be greens that you will have to farm which will be annoying.

immortius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Black Cats

E/Mo

14 Apr 2009 at 12:53 - 13

Probably purchase them with Zoins. Only question is how many days worth of Zoins would be necessary.

Tullzinski

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Trying to stay out of Ryuk's Death Note

N/R

14 Apr 2009 at 13:56 - 14

Assorted sizes of Equipment Packs (EPs) makes no sense to me. Who wants a smaller EP? What benefit do you get from a smaller EP?

I hope we are not forced into any type of quest to obtain the bags. If you have to do any quest for the EPs then ANET is dictating how you should play the game. If this is the case then grind is being added for something most of the community would consider a must have.

Conjecture at this point on my part but not reading anything that clears up how you obtain them or why you would want various sizes of EPs

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

14 Apr 2009 at 14:36 - 15

I don't understand the "Assorted Sizes" either. Perhaps they will throw in some douche bag game mechanic where as if you have a larger bag you move 5% slower. I mean if there is no drawback to a larger bag why in the name of all that is holy would anyone ever get a smaller one? Perhaps they will be some astrinomical gold sink price.

Perhaps they will act like the bag, and you need a Rune of holding of sorts to increase their size.

I'm going to estimate the EP to be a small size of 5 and then perhaps a medium of 10 slots to a large of 15. It will HAVE to match up with the back pack/belt pouch/bags that we carry now with the whole "5 Spaces Across"

Lord knows, like evryone else, pure conjecture at this point.

immortius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Black Cats

E/Mo

14 Apr 2009 at 14:39 - 16

Interesting point. One possibility is that EPs are available from merchants, with the smallest EPs in the starting areas and bigger EPs available the further you go, perhaps with the biggest EP available via zoins. Then the smaller sizes are basically just for first timers, and the majority of the community can skip straight to the larger kits.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

14 Apr 2009 at 14:46 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by immortius

Interesting point. One possibility is that EPs are available from merchants, with the smallest EPs in the starting areas and bigger EPs available the further you go, perhaps with the biggest EP available via zoins. Then the smaller sizes are basically just for first timers, and the majority of the community can skip straight to the larger kits.

More like, some weirdo NPC giving out a series of quests, the rewards being the bags. Complete all the quests - get the largest bag. More realistic sounds to just buy em off an NPC with your z coins or w/e, bigger costing more coins

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

14 Apr 2009 at 15:11 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tullzinski

Assorted sizes of Equipment Packs (EPs) makes no sense to me. Who wants a smaller EP? What benefit do you get from a smaller EP?

Same reason they have small bags and runes of holding: bigger bags will be more expensive.

Quote:

I hope we are not forced into any type of quest to obtain the bags. If you have to do any quest for the EPs then ANET is dictating how you should play the game. If this is the case then grind is being added for something most of the community would consider a must have.

Lol?
ANet is making me ascend to go into FoW, they're dictating how I play the game!
ANet is making me beat NF to get into DoA, they're dictating how I play the game!
ANet is making me beat a quest to get a PvE skill I want, they're dictating how I play the game!
ANet is making me play through quests to get trophy items to hand in for ID kits, they're dictating how I play the game!
ANet is making me play the game to get money to get fancy stuff, they're dictating how I play the game!

Dude, shut the hell up.

keithmcm

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2007

Lanham, MD USA

one

E/Mo

14 Apr 2009 at 15:25 - 19

if i get more storage space and don't have to spend real world cash for them, i'm happy. new quests or challenges sound great. balt pts or zaishen points, same. some new fun things to do (and my threshhold of what's fun is pretty low, trapping zaishen is almost fun, and i could about do it in my sleep). i'll wait and see.

Another Felldspar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Alchemy Incorporated

Mo/E

14 Apr 2009 at 16:54 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obrien Xp

Now, who's Linsey?

Regina/Anet?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Linsey_Murdock

If you play Guildwars at all you need to know who Linsey is. She is the lead developer on the live team. She's the evil mastermind behind the rabbit hole. She's the creator of the Black Moa Chick scavenger hunt. She's the sadist who designed and spawned the Burning Forest. And even though she is without doubt evil and sadistic, she is also warm and personable.

I like her.

Tullzinski

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Trying to stay out of Ryuk's Death Note

N/R

14 Apr 2009 at 17:10 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy High

Same reason they have small bags and runes of holding: bigger bags will be more expensive.

Lol?
ANet is making me ascend to go into FoW, they're dictating how I play the game!
ANet is making me beat NF to get into DoA, they're dictating how I play the game!
ANet is making me beat a quest to get a PvE skill I want, they're dictating how I play the game!
ANet is making me play through quests to get trophy items to hand in for ID kits, they're dictating how I play the game!
ANet is making me play the game to get money to get fancy stuff, they're dictating how I play the game!

Dude, shut the hell up.

Dude, nope not shutting the hell up but thanks for suggesting it:

Bigger bags are more expensive. So this is something to spend money on. If that is the case then make the EP with 1 slot and charge 1k for additional slots up to 20. so you can really spend money on it. Again what is gained from smaller bags, it sounds like getting a smaller bag is a negative.

Everything you list is COMPLETLY OPTIONAL. I would NOT consider additional storage an OPTIONAL thing. ANET/You can put the optional name on it but noone in their right mind would choose NOT to get additional storage if given a choice. Pay close attention to that NOONE WOULD CHOOSE NOT TO GET ADDITIONAL STORAGE.

You can choose not to go into FOW/DOA get a trophy item or money or skills unlocked. Sorry but your comparisons fail. Storage is premium and needed to store all the stuff you get from FOW/DOA and so on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by immortius

Interesting point. One possibility is that EPs are available from merchants, with the smallest EPs in the starting areas and bigger EPs available the further you go, perhaps with the biggest EP available via zoins. Then the smaller sizes are basically just for first timers, and the majority of the community can skip straight to the larger kits.

That makes sense I hope that is the case!

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

14 Apr 2009 at 18:53 - 22

I find the fact the equipment bags come in various sizes as something AWESOME. I hope the bigger ones are pretty hard to get and can't be just obtained day 1 of the update.

GW really lacks in character development, and the new bags can fulfill this function at least - they will make great and desirable rewards for doing things in game, as opposed to "more of the same" approach GW used so far.

Oink The Pig

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Kryta

Untimely Demise [Err了]

14 Apr 2009 at 19:07 - 23

I'm actually hoping it'll be something that can be displayed on screen without the full inventory panel up. That way I can have somewhere convenient to put shields/weapons that I want to swap via double-click during PvP without taking up too much screen space.

Game-wise, I'm expecting to have to pay gold to get the equipment packs. Hopefully the price will not be restrictive. If it's true that they'll hold up to 20 items, then this will definitely solve my storage issues, since my PvE toons carry multiple sets of armor/weapons for PvP purposes. And it won't cost me any additional real money to get this, which is awesome.

Another Felldspar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Alchemy Incorporated

Mo/E

14 Apr 2009 at 19:21 - 24

I'm betting they'll be available via Zoins thereby allowing both the PvE and PvP crowd to access them by playing in their own preferred manner.

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

14 Apr 2009 at 20:04 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayelet Feldspar

I'm betting they'll be available via Zoins thereby allowing both the PvE and PvP crowd to access them by playing in their own preferred manner.

Most probable, because PvP peeps needs access to the Packs too. Seems Zoins are going to be all the rage.

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

14 Apr 2009 at 20:53 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayelet Feldspar

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Linsey_Murdock

If you play Guildwars at all you need to know who Linsey is. She is the lead developer on the live team. She's the evil mastermind behind the rabbit hole. She's the creator of the Black Moa Chick scavenger hunt. She's the sadist who designed and spawned the Burning Forest. And even though she is without doubt evil and sadistic, she is also warm and personable.

I like her.

Heh, I'm actually going to introduce her on air with that... thats awesome

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

14 Apr 2009 at 21:43 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tullzinski

NOONE WOULD CHOOSE NOT TO GET ADDITIONAL STORAGE.

Have you seen the Boycott Storage Update thread? This is very much not the case.

Boneyard Spleeneater

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Seattle

Immortal Corruptors [GWAR]

Me/N

15 Apr 2009 at 00:22 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Puddles

Have you seen the Boycott Storage Update thread? This is very much not the case.

To clarify, that thread simply says many people will not pay real money to buy storage. At least not the asking price.

I think most people would drop up to 20k to get 20 slots in game. I am by no means wealthy by game standards, and I wouldn't bat an eye at that.

Obrien Xp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2009

Canada

The First Dragon Slayers [FDS]

15 Apr 2009 at 01:23 - 29

does anyone know if I can place non-customized weapons in there?

*that way I'd be able to put those vedor trash weps in there to save space

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

15 Apr 2009 at 01:42 - 30

Apparently you can.

Seems that what they've done with the bags is replace the entry for who the item is customised for (which is probably three or four bytes of data per slot, given the number of characters in game) with a single bit - 'customised to bearer' and 'not customised'. Any item that doesn't fit in one of those categories can be put in the equipment bag.

So you can put merch-trash in there, or the stuff you're carrying around because it has mods on it you may want to salvage off sometime, or the green that you're not using but holding onto in case someone asks for it, but you can't use it to carry something customised to another character.

MK_18

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

15 Apr 2009 at 03:27 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tullzinski

I would NOT consider additional storage an OPTIONAL thing. ANET/You can put the optional name on it but noone in their right mind would choose NOT to get additional storage if given a choice. Pay close attention to that NOONE WOULD CHOOSE NOT TO GET ADDITIONAL STORAGE.

Well consider this. If they offered 5 slot equipment packs at a merchant for 100 gold, and for the 20 slot bag you had to complete quests where the difficulty was around that of DoA, which do you think more people would get?
You can choose to get the 5 slot or you can choose to go on the quests to get the 20 slot. You have the option of being lazy and only getting 5 slots extra or putting in effort and getting the max reward. I'd see no problem in setting it up in this way replacing the gold with a small number of zoins if necessary. Everyone can get extra storage its up to the player how much they want to work for it. Options are good, handing everything out easy because people don't want to work for it is bad.

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

15 Apr 2009 at 07:32 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orange Milk

Perhaps they will throw in some douche bag game mechanic where as if you have a larger bag you move 5% slower.

IMO, it would be a great mechanic to have. I absolutely loved it in Morrowind years ago.

Eragon Zarroc

Atra estern?? ono thelduin

Join Date: Jan 2008

Madness Incarnate

[Duo]

W/P

15 Apr 2009 at 13:39 - 33

lol, i hope these things can carry multiple armor sets. my war has so many acquired from over the past few years >_<

qvtkc

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

15 Apr 2009 at 13:51 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

I find the fact the equipment bags come in various sizes as something AWESOME. I hope the bigger ones are pretty hard to get and can't be just obtained day 1 of the update.

I hope the opposite, that they will be readily available.

Tullzinski

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Trying to stay out of Ryuk's Death Note

N/R

15 Apr 2009 at 14:09 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Puddles

Have you seen the Boycott Storage Update thread? This is very much not the case.

I sure have seen it. what boneyard said is on target. If this is for ingame money noone will have any issue obtaining it.

Would hate to see this linked with the new zaishen quests where you would have to complete all three types to obtain the best EP. Once again you would be forced to do things you normally would not just to get the additional storage. IMO is adding grind. But until it comes out it is all conjecture.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by MK_18

Well consider this. If they offered 5 slot equipment packs at a merchant for 100 gold, and for the 20 slot bag you had to complete quests where the difficulty was around that of DoA, which do you think more people would get?

I think all the solo players would be pissed if the quest/s was so hard that you needed a group to complete it. You have now forced them into a PUG (oh Joy) or not getting it.

Phineas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

15 Apr 2009 at 14:43 - 36

No one seems to have spotted the current theme... I think the 5-slot will be free, and the extra 15 spaces will be optional purchases from the online store, in chunks of 5, at a guess.

Falling Petal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2009

15 Apr 2009 at 16:43 - 37

We know the bags are limited in what they can contain, and that there are armour ones and weapon ones. Could it be that you can carry 20 slots worth of equipment pack, but you break that down how you want? Example: one 20 slot armour bag, or a 5 slot armour bag + a 15 slot weapon bag?

Edit: I hope there is some sort of quest / monster drop element to these equipment packs. If they are tradable then the players that don't like this idea can simply buy them from other players the same as everything else.

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

15 Apr 2009 at 18:01 - 38

Nobody thought that you would just buy them from an NPC (Xunlai Agent?) and they'd have different prices?

100g, 1k, 10k, 100k?

This game needs more goldsinks, that wouldn't be a bad idea. In fact, I thought that's how additional tabs would work.

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

R/

15 Apr 2009 at 19:48 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alleji

Nobody thought that you would just buy them from an NPC (Xunlai Agent?) and they'd have different prices?

100g, 1k, 10k, 100k?

This game needs more goldsinks, that wouldn't be a bad idea. In fact, I thought that's how additional tabs would work.

I could get behind that.

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

15 Apr 2009 at 20:26 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oink The Pig
I'm actually hoping it'll be something that can be displayed on screen without the full inventory panel up. That way I can have somewhere convenient to put shields/weapons that I want to swap via double-click during PvP without taking up too much screen space

Regina did state that the Equiptment bag WILL NOT be linkrd to the F9 key and will be a seperate panel.

You win, congrats.