In game store now available... Name change, Makeover kit, Storage Pane

jammerpa

jammerpa

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Sunny FLA

Omega Knights

N/Me

I'm pretty sure that with the new update, we now have the ability to purchase the following:

Makeover Pack - $9.99

This service lets you customize your character's appearance (hair style, hair color, face, skin color and body style). Item includes 5 makeover credits you can use on one character or across multiple characters on the same account.


Extreme Makeover - $9.99

This service allows you to change the gender and appearance (hair style, hair color, face, skin color and body style) of a single character.



Character Name Change = $14.99

This service allows you the change the name of a single character.



WOW

Karate Jesus

Karate Jesus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2008

Texas

Reign of Judgment [RoJ]

Me/

Lol, you wont see me buying ANY of that bullshit.

ANET NEEDS MONEY!

OasaTor

OasaTor

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Brandon, MB, Canada

W/E

Jesus I was actually considering getting a name change and a gender swap on my warrior but HELL no, not for 25USD = 32ish CAD.

Anet, terrible update. Features that *should* be free or atleast reasonably priced :/

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Biggest LOL is that gender change costs 5x more $$$ than all the other changes. Thechnically there's probably no difference in their cost to perform such an operation, but they're charning much more for this 'luxury'.
This kind of pricing makes sense if it's all about ingame money and rewards - better rewads for more ingame currency - but they're applying it to real $$$ sales aswell. Exactly what happens to the extra storage - just as the bigger equipment packs cost far more ZOINS, the xunlai panes cost far more than other ways of obtaining storage (char slots, whole accounts). It's sick.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

My thoughts on this is that Anet was banking on the vocal minority saying they'd pay such and such for all this garbage, but they'll soon realize that the vast majority of players will balk at the sticker shock of all this crap. That or they'll take the huge instant cash influx from those spoiled kids whose parents shovel cash onto to keep them off their backs, pay for the work they did, then make a change to less money or ability to use in-game gold.

Either way, I really don't think they took into account the fact that the people posting on Guru are the very very very vocal VAST MINORITY of GW players. the truly dedicated. Banking your financial plan on the percentage of Guru members, many of which don't even play any more, who say they'll pay for these changes is a poor strategy.

This update didn't add any real new content. The Menagerie. That's it. Some coins, pretty much just a new bloated method of obtaining existing super-common items. New storage that you are FORCED to use this bloated grind-based system to obtain. Sure, once you have it on a character, it's there....but by my calculations it'll take all 10 of my characters doing every single mission and bounty in Hard Mode(not gonna happen) 5 days to obtain ONE pack. This is grind.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

So are you allowed to give a proph character a hairstyle from factions or NF?

Nessar

Nessar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

West Siiiiiiiiiiiiiide

Gwen Has A Thing For [Pyre]

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw View Post
So are you allowed to give a proph character a hairstyle from factions or NF?
Yea you can. Same w/ makeup & skin colour

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

In this topic we see people crying that they don't get features for free. Both things are totally expected: 1. crying 2. micro transactions on game without monthly fee. Company is out there to make money, which will allow the devs to continue updating the product. Quit crying and grow a pair.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

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Originally Posted by aapo View Post
In this topic we see people crying that they don't get features for free. Both things are totally expected: 1. crying 2. micro transactions on game without monthly fee. Company is out there to make money, which will allow the devs to continue updating the product. Quit crying and grow a pair.
Micro transactions that need the appropriate micro PRICE, which this is not.

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0 View Post
Micro transactions that need the appropriate micro PRICE, which this is not.
- Who you are to say what is correct price? Too expensive for you - don't buy it.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

$1 for complete transformation options would have been reasonable.
10 plat in game (as a money sink) would have been a great option.

As you said, I'm not buying it... I really don't even play GW anymore.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

Haven't posted in a while, but I can't help but find it funny remembering people saying they'd pay $20-$30 for any one of these if they'd just make them available; and now that they're actually here.....

ajc2123

ajc2123

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

North of the wall

Me/

I PAYED FOR MY EXTREME MAKEOVER!

No more gay mesmer for me!

bodyboarder

bodyboarder

retired

Join Date: Jun 2006

only wish you could you in game gold to change your appearance....

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith View Post
Haven't posted in a while, but I can't help but find it funny remembering people saying they'd pay $20-$30 for any one of these if they'd just make them available; and now that they're actually here.....
Luckily I never said that I'd pay. Now I might have said a dollar was reasonable just now, but I'm still not going to pay real money especially in a depression to make a character look better.

This game really needed a money sink and anet blew the perfect opportunity to fix the ingame economy.

IKNOW

IKNOW

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by aapo View Post
In this topic we see people crying that they don't get features for free. Both things are totally expected: 1. crying 2. micro transactions on game without monthly fee. Company is out there to make money, which will allow the devs to continue updating the product. Quit crying and grow a pair.
I'm sure this games 'original' business model was something along the lines of "expansions" would support game development and server costs.There's (big-number) Korean rpg/mmo's out there with no cost for the actual game and carppy micro-transactions for anything cool. But this is actually worse than that particular model. You could argue that Anets business model is evolving, I would say it's devolving.

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Originally Posted by Winterclaw View Post
As you said, I'm not buying it... I really don't even play GW anymore.
- Not buying gives the information to company that price is too high. Perhaps they lower it later, but at least for now they want to get impulse spenders to fork over their cash. I don't play GW anymore either. Finished the campaigns on nearly every profession, players PvP of all sorts, have seen all these events already. The update is decent for those who still play and the menagerie is surprisingly well-planned, but I doubt getting 500 or 1500 gold for running same missions over will sway players into doing them once the novelty wears off.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw View Post
$1 for complete transformation options would have been reasonable.
10 plat in game (as a money sink) would have been a great option.
This. I'd pay anywhere in the 10k-20k range for it. But looking at the prices there, in real money? No.

absolutcrobi

absolutcrobi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Naked Pagans

Rt/Me

EPIC FAIL!

/12 characters

Seffapotamus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Washington, DC

Mo/

Great Update!

I'm all for premium content/luxuries.

And the prices are reasonable

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Originally Posted by IKNOW View Post
I'm sure this games 'original' business model was something along the lines of "expansions" would support game development and server costs.There's (big-number) Korean rpg/mmo's out there with no cost for the actual game and carppy micro-transactions for anything cool. But this is actually worse than that particular model. You could argue that Anets business model is evolving, I would say it's devolving.
- It's either these micro transactions, monthly fee, some kind of gold club membership or advertisement-based financing. Of these evils, this one actually looks rather tasteful way to remind us that the company needs money. I wouldn't want advertisements on my face on every occasion. Yes, MMO genre is disgrace for us old school gamers, but what's there to do about it? Don't play MMOs, which GW2 will be.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

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Originally Posted by aapo View Post
- It's either these micro transactions, monthly fee, some kind of gold club membership or advertisement-based financing.
Or they could not make a sequel and instead just keep on with expansions.

DoomFrost

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

E/

Hey if people have the money to blow, let them. I'm practically fine with the way my character looks. Though I really think that all accounts should have gotten a free make-over credit. It would have been another nice gift.

Silent Elvin Ranger

Silent Elvin Ranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Ontario, Canada

Oh shut up you blubbering babies. As stated, this COMPANY is out to make money. Duh. You already arent paying monthly for this game, so keep quiet. These features added were for the people who will pay for it. I know I will be paying for a couple of things. Well worth my money. Since I invest a lot of game time into this game (going on 4 years), I think i owe it to the developers. You should be thankful that none of these things affect the game. Sure theres going to be different looking characters and new names. But at least the premium members (or spoiled brats) dont get more power over the regular user. If everyone who was complaining about this ignored it, not only would it not affect their game, they probably will never need to look at it. So really. Quit being little school girls.

a-kyle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

A/R

I am very dispointed that we have to pay for any of this shit. it should be free, or at least have some serious hard core quests for it...and the NCsoft store needs to add extra servers to allow more people on the page...this is ridiculus

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

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Originally Posted by a-kyle View Post
I am very dispointed that we have to pay for any of this shit. it should be free, or at least have some serious hard core quests for it...and the NCsoft store needs to add extra servers to allow more people on the page...this is ridiculus
Scuze me, your irony is showing.

So, don't want to pay for it, yet expect the game to have better servers. I'll let you ponder that one for a little while.

s t e e

s t e e

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2009

Death By[Emo]

Mo/Me

it is somewhat appealing that you can get hair style from any campaign, skin tone face, etc. Unfortunately, I'm not paying for that, I like the guy the way he is. More serious players would probably enjoy this update.

Master Ketsu

Master Ketsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

middle of nowhere

Krazy Guild With Krazy People [KrZy]

R/

Guild Wars is now Rappelz.

lulz.

Dmitri3

Dmitri3

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada, almost got to see a polar bear... :P

Makeover kit isn't that bad... everything else? Complete rip-off, especially the name change.

ShadowbaneX

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Heroes of the Horn

A/Me

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Originally Posted by bodyboarder View Post
only wish you could you in game gold to change your appearance....
I'm with this. Dropping gold on a hair cut and dye job. No problem, I'd even drop platinum on it and possibly do it more then once, great gold sink. Spend actual money on this? No chance in hell.

IKNOW

IKNOW

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Elvin Ranger View Post
Oh shut up you blubbering babies. As stated, this COMPANY is out to make money. Duh. You already arent paying monthly for this game, so keep quiet. These features added were for the people who will pay for it. I know I will be paying for a couple of things. Well worth my money. Since I invest a lot of game time into this game (going on 4 years), I think i owe it to the developers. You should be thankful that none of these things affect the game. Sure theres going to be different looking characters and new names. But at least the premium members (or spoiled brats) dont get more power over the regular user. If everyone who was complaining about this ignored it, not only would it not affect their game, they probably will never need to look at it. So really. Quit being little school girls.
If you're happy with the update why don't you "keep quiet" Duh. Just cause you're wasting your money with micro-transactions; no need to try and justify your incredible naivety by belittling others opinions on the subject.

MisterT69

MisterT69

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

E/

NTY A-net; I would RATHER delete my main and make a NEW name for him than pay 15 American dollars to change it. It' just not worth it, and 10 bucks for makeovers and such? I can buy proph for 10 bucks wth do I need to spend it on pixels for?

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by aapo View Post
- Who you are to say what is correct price? Too expensive for you - don't buy it.

Look at the prices for everything else. $15 for ONE CHARACTER name change. What if I all of a sudden wanted to create a "family" out of my characters...I have ten. Three of which have similar names, the rest would need to be changed, at least in gender. That's 7 characters for name changes, that's $105 just for simple name changes.

I'd rather delete mules and remake them for free. Can you give new characters faces and hairstyles from different campaigns at the start, or do you need to buy these stupid makeovers to do that?

Nerel

Nerel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2008

Australia, what you want my home address?

[CAT]

Mo/

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Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar View Post
Scuze me, your irony is showing.

So, don't want to pay for it, yet expect the game to have better servers. I'll let you ponder that one for a little while.
I never saw any mention of a-kyle saying the game needed better servers, but the NCsoft store needing better servers... after spending two hours just trying to use the store, unsuccessfully due to pages failing to load/timing out... I think maybe the NCsoft store is some kind of bizarre game... either way, RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you NCsoft, no money for you. That is an atrocious level of support when you can't even USE support nor buy from the online store.

Sure it's not their fault, it's over loaded with GW players getting their free storage pane (or trying too)... and if they couldn't see this sort of traffic coming and make suitable plans for it, those responsible need to be beaten to death, nothing that stupid deserves to live.

Back to the thread topic... generally overpriced, yes, didn't expect otherwise. Would it be nice if you could purchase the makeovers/name changes and other cruft with ingame gold... yes, but Anet is busy making GW2 (still), Tabula Rasa ate a hole in NCsoft's pockets... send more money please, love NCsoft.

Blah.

The Zaishen coin/quest stuff looks cool, so nice update.

Apollo Smile

Apollo Smile

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

[LORE]

E/Mo

Hope you guys don't play WoW. It charges for character re-customization and a 15 buck monthly.

DarkWasp

DarkWasp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Paradise

Agency Of Forbidden Fruits [Oot]

R/A

Yeah this is wrong. I think changing hair should atleast be free...

Also!

Characters should be able to mix chapters in initial creation now atleast. This is too big too make us pay for completely, i'm sorry what's happening here is WRONG.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

I think the feature is fine.

I won't be paying for a makeover of my characters, because I already remade the only one I wasn't happy with. I like the rest and I'm used to way they look. However, lots of people have been asking for this feature, I'm sure at least some of them will pay money for it.

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

All I can really add to this is that the Extreme Makeover should include a name change since some of us use decent names that reflect one's gender.

As it stands, I'd have to use a Character Name Change along with a Extreme Makeover if I wanted to change my character's appearance.

headlesshobbs

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

just unreal. All I wanted to do was change my hairstyle and I can't even pay ingame gold for that!

Tom Swift

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2007

I have no real objection to them charging for changes to the character. In fact, I would buy one hair change and some extra storage if it were not for the fact you have to associate the game account with PlayNC. I just simply will not do that - period.