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BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

11 Aug 2009 at 14:04 - 2643

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister_Smiley

Lol, this is so funny, Anet Fail's, should have just left him alone.

His song is now: Where in the world is Nicholas the Traveler!

I've got screenshots of meeting him everyweek, however making a video would have been more funny
I always immagined him theoretically taking a week to get to places without map travelling and throughout the week he would technically be moving however 1 day was pretty good running.

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

Rt/E

11 Aug 2009 at 14:33 - 2644

Quote:

Originally Posted by nkuvu

It was obvious that he was glitched, but I didn't expect the fix to his text to also mean moving him and changing what he was collecting.

I didn't farm any krait skins, but if I had I could see being a bit annoyed at the fix.

Adding to the fact that those that did might be screwed next round. how do we know that if/when he really asks for krait skins that we(those that turns them in for gifts) will be able to turn then in again?

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

11 Aug 2009 at 14:44 - 2645

IMO Hold on to your Krait skins, bet thats his location next week.

Painbringer

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

Minnesota

Black Widows of Death

W/Mo

11 Aug 2009 at 14:48 - 2646

I almost feel sorry for the people paying 1k a skin to find out they where scammed on the travelor. I feel bad enough on the wasted time spent farming them myself. Rant over I guess hides next on the menu

Voodoo Rage

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2008

Sacramento, CA

Geezers

R/

11 Aug 2009 at 14:53 - 2647

Hey might even be a cool feature to just have him randomly move 3-4 times a week.

SharonC

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

USA

Confused and Ridiculously Lost [CARL]

R/

11 Aug 2009 at 14:54 - 2648

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

I find it funny that people are expressing so much grief over having farmed Krait skins for Nicholas when they knew (or should have known) that he was bugged.

That said, I don't know why remedying the situation had to also result in his position being changed. I wonder if this buggy situation will result in something like Nicholas showing up in an old spot in the far future?

Knew he was bugged? I certainly didn't know that. Not until I went to find him and he was gone. The sole thing I did before starting to farm was check on what he was collecting. Period. I'm sure there are a lot of others who do something similar, since we don't really have a lot of time. I have one day each week that I can actually spend farming in an organized fashion (in other words, keep doing the same thing till I have everything I need.) I spent that time farming for the items I thought would be used to get his gifts for this week. Now, I am not sure I will be able to do enough farming to get the gifts for one account, let alone the 5 I normally farm for. My guild is made up mostly of people who play less than 10 hours per week. Usually less than 5 hours, though sometimes we luck out on schedules and can get together a little more. Unless we want to waste that precious game time together farming, we cannot get the gifts this week. Something none of us will be happy about.

FrAnt1c??

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

Legion Of Sacred Light [LSL]

Mo/

11 Aug 2009 at 15:12 - 2649

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

There's 46 Behemoths in Vehjin Mines near the Holdings of Chokhin portal, at least in hard mode. Easy to 600/smite, and zone back and forth to reset.

This worked best for me, took me 45 mins, and got an elite derv tome from the boss

edit:

5x red
10x blue
5x mysterious summoning stones
5x cottontail tonic

Another Felldspar

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Alchemy Incorporated

Mo/E

11 Aug 2009 at 16:58 - 2650

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharonC

Knew he was bugged? I certainly didn't know that. Not until I went to find him and he was gone. The sole thing I did before starting to farm was check on what he was collecting. Period. I'm sure there are a lot of others who do something similar, since we don't really have a lot of time. I have one day each week that I can actually spend farming in an organized fashion (in other words, keep doing the same thing till I have everything I need.) I spent that time farming for the items I thought would be used to get his gifts for this week. Now, I am not sure I will be able to do enough farming to get the gifts for one account, let alone the 5 I normally farm for. My guild is made up mostly of people who play less than 10 hours per week. Usually less than 5 hours, though sometimes we luck out on schedules and can get together a little more. Unless we want to waste that precious game time together farming, we cannot get the gifts this week. Something none of us will be happy about.

Here's the thing... Nicholas (A-Net) didn't ask you to farm Krait Skins. You didn't talk to Nicholas at all, or you would have known that he was bugged since there was no dialog text to tell the player what to farm for. Instead, some players experimented until Nick responded and then posted that information to the Wiki and the Guru thread.

Wiki and Guru are invaluable sources of information; unfortunately, they aren't always right. Had you been willing to go and speak to Nick yourself, instead of relying on the kindness of others and their shared and, in this instance at least, incorrect, information then you would have known that he was bugged.

By the way, I did the exact same thing that you did. I checked Wiki, farmed the skins, and went to the spot that I believed Nick to be. He wasn't there. I did some checking, found that he was removed and reset and felt some frustration over having already spent the time and effort to get the skins.

But, that's where our similarities end. Bitching at the not-perfect employees of a not-perfect company is both futile and in poor taste. I believe those employees do their best to do a good job, earn their money, and produce a quality game. Chances are good that they do it mostly for the sake of their pocketbooks, but also for the sake of satisfaction in a job well done. I say that because I believe it's true of most people who hold down a job. If I'm correct then they already feel badly about it. Browbeating them over a mistake is ridiculous.

When was the last time you screwed up at work? How many people did you have to tell about it? How many people raised hell with you about it, or called you worthless, or said you are full of fail? A little bit of empathy goes a long way.

Screw ups happen. Suck it up.

SharonC

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

USA

Confused and Ridiculously Lost [CARL]

R/

11 Aug 2009 at 17:18 - 2651

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayelet Feldspar

<snipping for length>
But, that's where our similarities end. Bitching at the not-perfect employees of a not-perfect company is both futile and in poor taste. I believe those employees do their best to do a good job, earn their money, and produce a quality game. Chances are good that they do it mostly for the sake of their pocketbooks, but also for the sake of satisfaction in a job well done. I say that because I believe it's true of most people who hold down a job. If I'm correct then they already feel badly about it. Browbeating them over a mistake is ridiculous.

When was the last time you screwed up at work? How many people did you have to tell about it? How many people raised hell with you about it, or called you worthless, or said you are full of fail? A little bit of empathy goes a long way.

Screw ups happen. Suck it up.

Excuse me, where do you see that I said anything other than I felt this was poor customer service and was not happy? Yes, I am bitching because I feel this was a screw-up. I am hoping that hearing the feedback that this was a screwup will make them try harder not to repeat such a thing. This bug was not fixed in a manner that would keep the players, i.e. their customers, happy. Not a good thing when you are dependent on their money to keep you going. If you are never let to know that something doesn't work/annoys people/causes problems, how in the H--- can you know enough not to do it again or to make changes?

When I screw up at work, I am let know that I screwed up. I expect that. I also expect people to let me know what is was that made it a screw up so I can make sure it isn't repeated.

In my opinion, the best way to have handled the problem with Nicholas would have been to leave him in place with a repaired text. That would have been the best thing for the players. It would have helped prevent people from having lost time, it would have kept people who didn't know about the change from losing money by buying items they thought he was collecting but no longer was.

I am sincerely hoping that if enough people let NCSoft and Arena.net know that solutions such as this are not the right way to fix this kind of a problem, they will find a different solution if such a thing should re-occur.

Angel Killuminati

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

UK

11 Aug 2009 at 17:32 - 2652

Well moving him wasn't very nice. I only got 2 gifts from him when he wanted Krait skins because I had to be quick, but I had hoped to get the rest sometime this week. Now he's moved to a location I can't get to!

AngeliqueSynner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2008

Florida, USA

Sacred Storm [Strm]

N/

11 Aug 2009 at 17:42 - 2653

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharonC

[Rant.]

So you're pretty much in a whiney rage because you spent half an hour or so that you now feel is wasted?
After a certain point it's wasted time to even be logged into the game, y'know.
I'll agree that it wasn't the best way to handle it, but who's to say that they're not working on it and going to put him back in Arbor on Monday?
Yeah, it's an inconvienience, but you can manage to deal with it, right?
Complaining isn't going to help either side of this. ;D

BrettM

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2008

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

11 Aug 2009 at 18:06 - 2654

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharonC

In my opinion, the best way to have handled the problem with Nicholas would have been to leave him in place with a repaired text.

I think ANet knew that, and it is unfair to assume they wouldn't see something so obvious. I also think it may not have been possible for them to do.

The update note says that Nick was moved to the "correct" location. This implies that his Arbor Bay location was not where he should have been in the first place. My guess is that he was not supposed to be in Arbor Bay at this time because the dialog for that spawn is not yet finished. That would explain why his dialog box was empty.

If the dialog is not available for the Arbor Bay spawn, it probably isn't a five minute job to fix it. The dialog may not yet be written. The dialog may be written, but not yet approved by everyone at ANet who must approve it (probably including the lawyers), and any bureaucratic process takes time. The dialog may be written and approved, but not yet localized, and it would be impractical to get a bunch of translators together on a minute's notice to do a rush job.

Thus, there are a number of possible reasons why ANet couldn't solve the problem "the best way" and had to settle for putting Nick where he should have spawned this week to begin with. Can you think of any other thing they could have done, assuming that the best fix was simply impossible to accomplish?

As it was, quite a bit of time passed between Linsey's post saying they were aware of the problem and the appearance of a new build. So even simply moving Nick was not as simple as one might think. First they probably had to have a hasty meeting to discuss what solutions might be implimented. When they chose the solution of moving Nick, they probably had to get it approved by somebody. After flipping the variable or whatever controls his spawn point, they probably had to do some QA before they could take the build live.

Things are never as simple as we would like them to be.

The Air Revenger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Looking For TA Guild!

W/

11 Aug 2009 at 18:54 - 2655

Finally farmed all 10 hides, took about an hour and a half, and on my last run a Scytheclaw Behemoth droped a nice Q9 Fellblade for me

got my gifts and a nice weapon.

Bingobomb

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2009

Summit of Human Evolution [SOHE]

W/Mo

11 Aug 2009 at 20:35 - 2656

Well I'm having a little trouble comming up with a way to farm this on my warrior. I really dont want to get my 600monk all the way to NF. If anyone could help that would be cool.

Hoping for some kegs

JoeysAngyl

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

So Cali

Absence of Light [AoL]

E/R

11 Aug 2009 at 21:17 - 2657

I'm about to check for the traveler but people in Dzagonur Bastion are saying he's been moved again....

Update: Yup looks like Nicholas the Traveler has been moved... yet again....

Kamara

Krytan Explorer

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Ponie Hill, Lion's Arch International

Blinkie Kaulitz Armie

E/

11 Aug 2009 at 21:19 - 2658

Not in Wilderness and not in Arbor.

*blinks* Rightyho then.

Tearmaker

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Seattle, WA

Sovereign Knights [SK]

R/

11 Aug 2009 at 21:21 - 2659

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeysAngyl

I'm about to check for the traveler but people in Dzagonur Bastion are saying he's been moved again....

Update: Yup looks like Nicholas the Traveler has been moved... yet again....

Their was just another update. OMG- here we go again...

MisterB

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy

[ban]

W/

11 Aug 2009 at 21:24 - 2660

Nicholas the Traveler has discovered the map travel feature. Hooray!

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vancouver,Canada

11 Aug 2009 at 21:24 - 2661

Ughhh what the hell is going on ........ this is not fun starting a farm then get half way through only for him to change yet again....

Fire The Nutter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

UK

TFTK

R/

11 Aug 2009 at 21:26 - 2662

OMG He's gone..... hahaha just got my gifts before loading the new build, im not farming 3 lots of items this week tyvm

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

11 Aug 2009 at 21:26 - 2663

this is so funny i like this... does it mean we can have more pressies?

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

11 Aug 2009 at 21:28 - 2664

Dear A-Net,

If you're conducting market research to determine if the player base pefers Nickolas the Traveller being moved around more often, I'm pretty sure that the consensus is that we do not!

Happy Hunting everyone!

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

11 Aug 2009 at 21:29 - 2665

no we get NO NEW PRESENTS if we have already gotten them.

Fire The Nutter

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

UK

TFTK

R/

11 Aug 2009 at 21:30 - 2666

Confirmed - not back in Arbor Bay

kr4mz3r01

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2008

Mare

R/

11 Aug 2009 at 21:35 - 2667

Yeah, if you haven't loaded the new build yet, and you have your hides, he'll still be there. That's what I did. GO GIT EM.

riceangel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2008

Floirda

[ASH]IGN: Tokyo Hina

W/E

11 Aug 2009 at 21:37 - 2668

Hes still in wildreness, hes in the fort near material dude

xSifox

Academy Page

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Toronto, ON

Has Won A Battle In The [HoH]

W/

11 Aug 2009 at 21:38 - 2669

Nick has moved AGAIN....?

riceangel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2008

Floirda

[ASH]IGN: Tokyo Hina

W/E

11 Aug 2009 at 21:41 - 2670

Quote:

Originally Posted by xSifox

Nick has moved AGAIN....?

Anet likes torturing us

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

11 Aug 2009 at 21:42 - 2671

Ohai there, Linsey

lilDeath

Krytan Explorer

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Treehouse #1

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11 Aug 2009 at 21:43 - 2672

lmao.... rofl... OMG I am laughing so HARD!

This is epic shit!
I went to GWW earlier tonight to check for farming spots for krait skins, only to see Nic is now wanting behemoth hides on the front page of GWW... I go WTF?!?!
I start farming hides, which I only got to 2 hides in 150+ kills, and my drops were absolutely terrible.... SO, I just caught up on my reading on Guru and this thread and I have not loaded the new build yet and now saw the mayhem and utter-damn-funny-as-hell-shit going down right now with him moving again...

...WELL, I'm going to run out and farm some more hides to get at least some gifts on at least one account. And yes, he is still in Bahdza!

lmao!

EDIT: Now, his facing the wall makes all the more sense... his text was not agreeing with how he was facing the solid stone wall. He was in the wrong place there too. On the top of the stairs, overlooking Bahdza is much better in agreement with his text.

YunSooJin

Pyromaniac

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

11 Aug 2009 at 21:44 - 2673

hey nick..stop RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing moving around? thanks

also anet learn to make up your RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing mind

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

11 Aug 2009 at 22:01 - 2674

Quote:

Nicholas the Traveler has moved to a more scenic location, where his view is not blocked by a large rock.

I LOL'd!

Off-topic:

Quote:

Fixed a bug preventing Call of Haste (PvP) from applying its effect to pets.
Fixed the concise description of Power Block so it more accurately reflects the skill's functionality.

YAY for bug fixes!

Coney

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2008

11 Aug 2009 at 22:32 - 2675

LOL, I wonder if that guy with 17 accounts bought 255 krait skins - hehe!!!

carbajac

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Medicine Cabinet [PILL]

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11 Aug 2009 at 22:47 - 2676

So, I farmed 11 Krait Skins, then they moved him, then I farmed 7 hides and then they moved him, luckily he kept with the hides and it was alright. Luckily, I like the summoning stones, so my grab was alright.

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

11 Aug 2009 at 22:51 - 2677

New location added to the front page again. I'm glad they decided to keep Nick in the same zone this time.

godot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

12 Aug 2009 at 00:30 - 2678

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scar ra

Ughhh what the hell is going on ........ this is not fun starting a farm then get half way through only for him to change yet again....

Yes, how unlike ArenaNet to be so insensitive to the needs of farmers.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

12 Aug 2009 at 00:36 - 2679

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo Nugget

New location added to the front page again. I'm glad they decided to keep Nick in the same zone this time.

His old location in the Wilderness was clearly a bug. He's dialogue talked about "look this architecture" but he was in the middle of nowhere surrounded by cliffs. Now his dialogue at least makes sense.

Bob Slydell

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2007

12 Aug 2009 at 01:24 - 2680

LMFAO, so thats why Him and Yakk were staring at the wall? LOL..

http://i28.tinypic.com/v7xsgh.jpg

http://i28.tinypic.com/2h4md1k.jpg

Mad King Corn

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

12 Aug 2009 at 07:02 - 2681

This week and the idea of Behemoth hides is stupid, I have done this (Nicholas) from the start and always enjoyed it, but this time it was not fun, and if they were all this difficult, I would not even bother for the junk I get from him anyway. These hides drop almost as scarcely as perfect REQ9 golds. I have used a 3 man team to farm those damn things and have spent about 6.5 hours off and on since yesterday and only have 6 hides.
This is just insane grind.
I'm even more upset because of the fact that their stupid mistake cost me even more time farming krait skins all for nothing. They could have posted a message by the login screen, explaining the mistake, so people did not work for nothing.

YunSooJin

Pyromaniac

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

12 Aug 2009 at 07:03 - 2682

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad King Corn

This week and the idea of Behemoth hides is stupid, I have done this (Nicholas) from the start and always enjoyed it, but this time it was not fun, and if they were all this difficult, I would not even bother for the junk I get from him anyway. These hides drop almost as scarcely as perfect REQ9 golds. I have used a 3 man team to farm those damn things and have spent about 6.5 hours off and on since yesterday and only have 6 hides.
This is just insane grind.
I'm even more upset because of the fact that their stupid mistake cost me even more time farming krait skins all for nothing. They could have posted a message by the login screen, explaining the mistake, so people did not work for nothing.

you're doing something very wrong.

got mine in the space of an hour or so.